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jeanm1963 02-09-2010 02:27 PM

Brynstar Yorkies Desiger Breeded Shnorkies
 
:thumbdown, Wow, after over a year of reading this site I NEVER thought I would see this!!! So many people Highly recommend this breeder, she has designer breeds listed , champioined by Tsa La Gi, tinies Listed as " PURSE BABIES" , SHIPS WORLD WIDE.. that is disgusting in my humble opinion!!

Yorkshire Terrier Puppies for Sale: Schnorkie3

View sellers other listings.. OMG :thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown

jackson25 02-09-2010 02:31 PM

AWFUL!:thumbdown Ships anywhere! You just never know! What gets me is the justification for the price is the champions in the yorkie! I wouldn't be proud of that! Accidental breeding, $600.00 is extreme for an accident!:mad:

Sunnie 02-09-2010 03:07 PM

wow! I am thoroughly shocked!

jeanm1963 02-09-2010 03:20 PM

I guess it is even more confusing for all of us who are looking for puppies, because Brynstar comes highly recommended on this site!! Seeing this I as in experienced yorkie owner, after advise given here would never buy from her!! Everything breeders teach here as RED FLAGS is shown in these ads:

Ships Worldwide
Breeds Designer Dogs ~ To a Champion AKC Dog NO LESS
Uses the word " PURSE PUPPY"
SELLS PUPS TO EARLY ( READ OTHER THREAD) about brynstar girl for sale

red98vett 02-09-2010 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanm1963 (Post 2996054)
I guess it is even more confusing for all of us who are looking for puppies, because Brynstar comes highly recommended on this site!! Seeing this I as in experienced yorkie owner, after advise given here would never buy from her!! Everything breeders teach here as RED FLAGS is shown in these ads:

Ships Worldwide
Breeds Designer Dogs ~ To a Champion AKC Dog NO LESS
Uses the word " PURSE PUPPY"
SELLS PUPS TO EARLY ( READ OTHER THREAD) about brynstar girl for sale

If there's a for sale thread regarding the same people here on this site - you should link it in this thread - that way people will know

What an awful ad....they're getting worse by the day. This could be just someone using the name with no right to use it - which is totally misleading the public and a slap in the face to those who know the lines.

ps. They have a comment page - maybe try posting there ?

jeanm1963 02-09-2010 03:27 PM

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...y-br-la-4.html

jeanm1963 02-09-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 2996061)
If there's a for sale thread regarding the same people here on this site - you should link it in this thread - that way people will know

What an awful ad....they're getting worse by the day. This could be just someone using the name with no right to use it - which is totally misleading the public and a slap in the face to those who know the lines.

ps. They have a comment page - maybe try posting there ?


No actually someone from YT called and spoke to Stephanie in regards to the pups listed!! Also the ad on Puppyfind has a direct link to her webpage as well as her phone number!

Darlene68 02-09-2010 03:31 PM

Isn't the "purse Baby" the one that was for sale on here in a recent thread??

jencar98 02-09-2010 03:44 PM

This does make one wonder just who can be trusted in the yorkie breeding world anymore. Yes, she did come highly recommended here before by some and I'm sure some will still recommend and defend her. I'm aware of what I need to know to not be recommending her.

She's supposed to be a respected breeder (according to some). I find it hard to believe in "accidents" when a "show breeder" should know about dogs in heat and keeping them from males.

jencar98 02-09-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene68 (Post 2996072)
Isn't the "purse Baby" the one that was for sale on here in a recent thread??


Yes, it's her, same breeder.........the fluctuating price, "purse Baby" :(

Nancy1999 02-09-2010 03:53 PM

I'm a little shocked at how easily someone will recommend a breeder, so many people just mean, "I gave the breeder money and I got a dog." I've read of members highly recommending a breeder and the puppy isn't even 10 weeks old yet. Thanks for posting this, it's always good to have more information.

Micah my love 02-09-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2996097)
This does make one wonder just who can be trusted in the yorkie breeding world anymore. Yes, she did come highly recommended here before by some and I'm sure some will still recommend and defend her. I'm aware of what I need to know to not be recommending her.

She's supposed to be a respected breeder (according to some). I find it hard to believe in "accidents" when a "show breeder" should know about dogs in heat and keeping them from males.

You are so right but i believe any good breeder would keep them seperated
akc pulled the reg. on one of my females last year for months trying to get another show breeders oops ironed out. also a member here finally it was taken care of

xxmxaxrxyxx 02-09-2010 04:04 PM

wow!!

livingdustmops 02-09-2010 04:11 PM

I do believe breeders can have an oops litter...but in this case she is bragging about the lineage of the dogs...I do not believe this is an oops litter...IMHO....not at $600.

One more reason I don't like breeders breeding different breeds....

In this case if it was an oops I think someone who highly values their lines would just find pet homes and give the dogs away and make sure the contract has a strong spay/neuter clause or spay/neuter before they leave. I would not be advertising on puppyfind.

Just sad.

Nancy1999 02-09-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2996141)
I do believe breeders can have an oops litter...but in this case she is bragging about the lineage of the dogs...I do not believe this is an oops litter...IMHO....not at $600.

One more reason I don't like breeders breeding different breeds....

In this case if it was an oops I think someone who highly values their lines would just find pet homes and give the dogs away and make sure the contract has a strong spay/neuter clause or spay/neuter before they leave. I would not be advertising on puppyfind.

Just sad.

Great points! I think this sounds like someone who didn't have breeding rights to the male, and decided to breed him anyway. Since mixes can't be registered with the AKC, unsuspecting buyers are misled. People sometimes wonder why it's so hard to get a dog from a quality breeder, and this is one of the reasons. Even spay and nueter contracts don't protect them.

jencar98 02-09-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2996157)
Great points! I think this sounds like someone who didn't have breeding rights to the male, and decided to breed him anyway. Since mixes can't be registered with the AKC, unsuspecting buyers are misled. People sometimes wonder why it's so hard to get a dog from a quality breeder, and this is one of the reasons. Even spay and nueter contracts don't protect them.

I don't think that is the case here Nancy, from my understanding Brynstar knowingly provided the stud.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/2995913-post58.html

red98vett 02-09-2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2996102)
Yes, it's her, same breeder.........the fluctuating price, "purse Baby" :(

:(:(:( now I saw the site - and ads. Wow is right. I honestly thought it was only an ad on puppy find and I have to say - I'd be nervous ever trying to get a puppy there - especially from anyone that would ship WORLDWIDE (and only at 6 weeks ?).....why would someone DO that to a puppy ? (this is only my personal feelings)...

The For Sale here thread someone linked pretty much summed it up.

kjc 02-09-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 2996193)
:(:(:( now I saw the site - and ads. Wow is right. I honestly thought it was only an ad on puppy find and I have to say - I'd be nervous ever trying to get a puppy there - especially from anyone that would ship WORLDWIDE (and only at 6 weeks ?).....why would someone DO that to a puppy ? (this is only my personal feelings)...

The For Sale here thread someone linked pretty much summed it up.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::mad:

linda44 02-09-2010 05:21 PM

You know I believe you guys are jumping up and hanging the noose before you know all the facts. I dont have them either but I do know that Stephanie is where I got Gidget and she has been nothing but great. I didnt see anywhere on her webpage where she was selling designer pups. Can each one of you say youve never done anything wrong or had an accident or erred? I think not. To bash a respected breeder and shower without knowing it all stinks. Shame on you! Linda

jeanm1963 02-09-2010 05:50 PM

I dont think anyone is " jumping to conclusions" a YT member called and spoke with Stephanie, it is her sire listed as the sire to the pups, the puppy find ad is also directly linked to her website!!

check it out yourself!!

Yorkshire Terrier Puppies for Sale: #3 Pending

brynstar 02-09-2010 06:02 PM

Brynstar Yorkies
 
Wow! Thanks Linda....
I should have known I would have to give an explanation for these puppies on puppyfind.. I did have a lady call me today about these puppies and I didnt feel the need to explain how the puppies came to be, but obviously I do.... First of all these puppies DO NOT BELONG TO ME! It WAS an accidental breeding with my sisters boyfriends schauzer... I only have Yorkies and would never mix a breeding... My sister was living with me at the time and her boyfriend would come visit her at my home and would occasionally bring his dog with him... I didnt even know his dog was in heat and even if I would have known, I would have never believed that my 4 pound Yorkie would have ever been able to reach a 12 pound schnauzer, but nevertheless, he did......... The dogs were outside in my fenced in yard when it happened, that was the only time they bred and of course, she got pregnant! I let my sister list the puppies on my puppyfind account to try and help them sell the puppies... It is not my decision on how much they ask for the puppies or when they let them go...... everyone who knows ME, knows that I never let my puppies leave until 12 weeks of age at the earliest..... But like I said, these are NOT my puppies, they live with him in his home and are being taken care of by him and my sister I cannot make them keep the puppies any longer than he feels necessary to keep them....... Keep in mind, these puppies are half SCHNAUZERS and although Yorkies may not be ready for their new homes until 12 weeks of age, I know several schnauzer breeders who let their puppies leave by 8 weeks of age.....some even sooner.. So if he wants to let his puppies go by 7-8 weeks old, then that his decision and it has no reflection on me and how I raise my dogs..... I have worked long and hard to accomplish what I have in my dogs and my line and I am not crazy enough to ruin my line and reputation by mixing breeds or even owning another breed than my love of Yorkies.....
Also, I dont know where you people are getting these lies from... The male that bred their dog is not a Tsa-La-Gi dog....! It is MY dog out of my own breeding..... and NO WHERE did i see a listing for a "designeer dog"..
... This is my SISTER and her boyfriend we are talking about here and I am very close to her... I will always do what I can to help her and if letting her put those puppies on my puppyfind account offends any of you, then I'm sorry, but if I have to choose between her and you on here who have nothing better to do than to gossip about people or try and start trouble, then your feelings are about to be hurt, because I will always choose her over you...
Stephanie
Brynstar Yorkies

linda44 02-09-2010 06:08 PM

Thanks for posting Stephanie. I knew it was something like that. Just with my dealings with you with Gidget, and you not letting her go because she was so tiny, the wait killed me but it was worth it. And by the way Gidget sends kisses to her first mommy!

Nancy1999 02-09-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2996166)
I don't think that is the case here Nancy, from my understanding Brynstar knowingly provided the stud.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/2995913-post58.html

No, I was referring to "championed by Tsa La Gi, tinies". I mean that breeder may have not approved of this. I've read of this happening to other breeders who thought they were selling to pet only homes.

brynstar 02-09-2010 06:15 PM

Brynstar Yorkies
 
By the way, their puppies are not listed and have never been listed on my website for sale.... I do not condone this type of breeding and would certainly not try to benefit from it by advertising them on my website for sale...
Stephanie

Nancy1999 02-09-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brynstar (Post 2996331)
Wow! Thanks Linda....
I should have known I would have to give an explanation for these puppies on puppyfind.. I did have a lady call me today about these puppies and I didnt feel the need to explain how the puppies came to be, but obviously I do.... First of all these puppies DO NOT BELONG TO ME! It WAS an accidental breeding with my sisters boyfriends schauzer... I only have Yorkies and would never mix a breeding... My sister was living with me at the time and her boyfriend would come visit her at my home and would occasionally bring his dog with him... I didnt even know his dog was in heat and even if I would have known, I would have never believed that my 4 pound Yorkie would have ever been able to reach a 12 pound schnauzer, but nevertheless, he did......... The dogs were outside in my fenced in yard when it happened, that was the only time they bred and of course, she got pregnant! I let my sister list the puppies on my puppyfind account to try and help them sell the puppies... It is not my decision on how much they ask for the puppies or when they let them go...... everyone who knows ME, knows that I never let my puppies leave until 12 weeks of age at the earliest..... But like I said, these are NOT my puppies, they live with him in his home and are being taken care of by him and my sister I cannot make them keep the puppies any longer than he feels necessary to keep them....... Keep in mind, these puppies are half SCHNAUZERS and although Yorkies may not be ready for their new homes until 12 weeks of age, I know several schnauzer breeders who let their puppies leave by 8 weeks of age.....some even sooner.. So if he wants to let his puppies go by 7-8 weeks old, then that his decision and it has no reflection on me and how I raise my dogs..... I have worked long and hard to accomplish what I have in my dogs and my line and I am not crazy enough to ruin my line and reputation by mixing breeds or even owning another breed than my love of Yorkies.....
Also, I dont know where you people are getting these lies from... The male that bred their dog is not a Tsa-La-Gi dog....! It is MY dog out of my own breeding..... and NO WHERE did i see a listing for a "designeer dog"..
... This is my SISTER and her boyfriend we are talking about here and I am very close to her... I will always do what I can to help her and if letting her put those puppies on my puppyfind account offends any of you, then I'm sorry, but if I have to choose between her and you on here who have nothing better to do than to gossip about people or try and start trouble, then your feelings are about to be hurt, because I will always choose her over you...
Stephanie
Brynstar Yorkies

I don't know what "lies" you are referring to, I hope more information comes from this, and I certainly don't want to bash you, but this is what it says on puppy find:

Quote:

Brynstar YorkiesMember Since: July 21st, 2004Location: Alexandria, LA, United StatesTelephone: 318-899-7877Website: http://www.championyorkies.comBreeder of AKC Champion Yorkies. Brynstar Yorkies strives to produce
the most beautiful Yorkies, while breeding for health, type, structure
and soundness. Show prospects and pets available on occasion.
http://www.puppyfind.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.puppyfind.com/images/arrow.gifContact Brynstar Yorkies via e-mail
http://www.puppyfind.com/images/db_plus.gifView all listings by Brynstar Yorkies
She is using more than your puppyfind account she is using your name to sell mix breeds, and then you call us a bunch of gossips? A good breeder should protect their name, and perhaps you could help your sister set up her own account and not advertise using your name.

Breeze 02-09-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brynstar (Post 2996331)
Wow! Thanks Linda....
I should have known I would have to give an explanation for these puppies on puppyfind.. I did have a lady call me today about these puppies and I didnt feel the need to explain how the puppies came to be, but obviously I do.... First of all these puppies DO NOT BELONG TO ME! It WAS an accidental breeding with my sisters boyfriends schauzer... I only have Yorkies and would never mix a breeding... My sister was living with me at the time and her boyfriend would come visit her at my home and would occasionally bring his dog with him... I didnt even know his dog was in heat and even if I would have known, I would have never believed that my 4 pound Yorkie would have ever been able to reach a 12 pound schnauzer, but nevertheless, he did......... The dogs were outside in my fenced in yard when it happened, that was the only time they bred and of course, she got pregnant! I let my sister list the puppies on my puppyfind account to try and help them sell the puppies... It is not my decision on how much they ask for the puppies or when they let them go...... everyone who knows ME, knows that I never let my puppies leave until 12 weeks of age at the earliest..... But like I said, these are NOT my puppies, they live with him in his home and are being taken care of by him and my sister I cannot make them keep the puppies any longer than he feels necessary to keep them....... Keep in mind, these puppies are half SCHNAUZERS and although Yorkies may not be ready for their new homes until 12 weeks of age, I know several schnauzer breeders who let their puppies leave by 8 weeks of age.....some even sooner.. So if he wants to let his puppies go by 7-8 weeks old, then that his decision and it has no reflection on me and how I raise my dogs..... I have worked long and hard to accomplish what I have in my dogs and my line and I am not crazy enough to ruin my line and reputation by mixing breeds or even owning another breed than my love of Yorkies.....
Also, I dont know where you people are getting these lies from... The male that bred their dog is not a Tsa-La-Gi dog....! It is MY dog out of my own breeding..... and NO WHERE did i see a listing for a "designeer dog"..
... This is my SISTER and her boyfriend we are talking about here and I am very close to her... I will always do what I can to help her and if letting her put those puppies on my puppyfind account offends any of you, then I'm sorry, but if I have to choose between her and you on here who have nothing better to do than to gossip about people or try and start trouble, then your feelings are about to be hurt, because I will always choose her over you...
Stephanie
Brynstar Yorkies


I would really rethink having these puppies listed on your account, this will definitely effect your reputation. I would show your sister and her boyfriend how to make their own listing and try to get them to be responsible breeders with a spade/neuter contract......

Also things like advertising "purse puppy" will not help either. Good luck. :)

livingdustmops 02-09-2010 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 2996413)
I would really rethink having these puppies listed on your account, this will definitely effect your reputation. I would show your sister and her boyfriend how to make their own listing and try to get them to be responsible breeders with a spade/neuter contract......

Also things like advertising "purse puppy" will not help either. Good luck. :)

Good post and I agree...plus $600 for a mixed breed puppy also tells a story and will harm a breeders reputation.

TammyJM 02-09-2010 08:03 PM

*sigh*.........I have kept my mouth shut for awhile now......my Izzy is now 19 months old. I purchased her from Stephanie at Brynstar. If it helps someone that is looking for the right breeder, I am willing to help. I do not care to get involved in the ugliness that I have seen happen when someone posts their experience and then has the breeder (and their friends) jump on here to attack...I don't want to be any part of that. People are welcome to PM me, but please know that as much as I am willing to help those that are looking for the right breeder, I do not wish to have my words used for gossiping. I will tell you that I would not recommend Stephanie at Brynstar....as much as I adore my Isabeau. And please, Stephanie do not reply back to me with any sort of a confused tone because you and I both know why I would write this.

Wylie's Mom 02-09-2010 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2996581)
*sigh*.........I have kept my mouth shut for awhile now......my Izzy is now 19 months old. I purchased her from Stephanie at Brynstar. If it helps someone that is looking for the right breeder, I am willing to help. I do not care to get involved in the ugliness that I have seen happen when someone posts their experience and then has the breeder (and their friends) jump on here to attack...I don't want to be any part of that. People are welcome to PM me, but please know that as much as I am willing to help those that are looking for the right breeder, I do not wish to have my words used for gossiping. I will tell you that I would not recommend Stephanie at Brynstar....as much as I adore my Isabeau. And please, Stephanie do not reply back to me with any sort of a confused tone because you and I both know why I would write this.

This is a very courageous as well as courteous post, Tammy. I really respect you for coming forward and saying the above. I support you for being honest about your personal experience with this breeder, and sharing it :).

Breeze 02-09-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2996592)
This is a very courageous as well as courteous post, Tammy. I really respect you for coming forward and saying the above. I support you for being honest about your personal experience with this breeder, and sharing it :).

I agree, Tammy this must of been hard for you to post. Hugs.


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