Brynstar Yorkies Desiger Breeded Shnorkies

[jeanm1963]

THIS IS FROM ANGIE :

You can let her know I am going to try to have my post taken off. Her breeder has listed Flirt and her sister at 2250.00 becausw of their pedigee and size. I know I want another tiny when Sydney is in school and hopefully things get better with the family. I had decided to keep her just beacuse she is everything I want in a yorkie, but to be honest the timing is not good for a dog in our home. I have been working with her every night as far as getting use to a bag, etc... I started potty training at 12 weeks....she is a fun, beautiful yorkie. Just sense she has had more free rome ( and she has always had play and social with us ) she has dropped a little below two and a half pounds....she was 2.8 now after more play play time of ripping and running she is 2.6 and she turned a year today.... may not want one that tiny anyway. I have always wanted tinies and paid a huge price for a puppy that you hoped would stay tiny. Anyway, when I relist her I will list her higher as I will have to pay for a quality yorkie and it probably won't be this tiny.....its rare to have an adult at this size with the show pedigree....Flirts Mom is a CH. and her dad has a grat pedigree, he would have finished in the show ring, but had an accident and took agood while to heal.


Im still curious is it Stephanie or Angie that is listing Flirt and her sister for 2250.00 and shiping them world wide, Angie says its her Breeder Stephanie!!!

[kpstoybox]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

*sigh*.........I have kept my mouth shut for awhile now......my Izzy is now 19 months old. I purchased her from Stephanie at Brynstar. If it helps someone that is looking for the right breeder, I am willing to help. I do not care to get involved in the ugliness that I have seen happen when someone posts their experience and then has the breeder (and their friends) jump on here to attack...I don't want to be any part of that. People are welcome to PM me, but please know that as much as I am willing to help those that are looking for the right breeder, I do not wish to have my words used for gossiping. I will tell you that I would not recommend Stephanie at Brynstar....as much as I adore my Isabeau. And please, Stephanie do not reply back to me with any sort of a confused tone because you and I both know why I would write this.

[Angela]

ANGIE IS RIGHT HERE:

I have Flirt listed for 2250.........she is MY yorkie. How mature of you to quote PM's, go ahwad and fill your lonely days....I have nothing to hide. MOST people on here look at puppyfind, if not to buy than to bash. I was aware of that when I listed Flirt.

OH and Tammy nice try, Stephanie never did you wrong without a way to make it right for you. You could have returned your yorkie if you werent happy with her.....you know that.

I am glad Stephanie is not the kind of person to let any of you get her down. She has a great business outside of the dog world, a beautiful family, and this is the thanks she gets for trying to HELP get these puppies in homes.

Flirt is a little PURSE BABY she is also a wonderful tiny yorkie from two outstanding standard weight yorkies.

[Angela]

One more thing Tammy......SEVERAL times you have said how IZZY is you favorite out of your dogs...one example:
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I agree with you! I have one that is 4 and a half, one that is 5 and a half, one that is almost 9 and a half and my big guy that weighs 22lbs. Out of my four, Izzy is my absolute favorite size/weight...she my 9 and a half pound Yorkie.

Also, from a legal stand point facts need to get straight regarding Brynstaryt and its owner. Its so far off base here a lot of liable has been written and if phone calls are going out slander may be out there too. I am saying you are wrong, very wrong. I am done with this, the people who matter know the truth. I will only re enter this situation if Stephanie desires to take legal action regarding the liable and possible slander against her bussiness.

Angie

[jeanm1963]

Angela,

What in Gods name are YOU talking about.... Slander, Law Suits , Are you even serious!!!!

Fact: The Schnorkies are listed on Puppiefind under Brynstars account

Although Stephanie claims that these puppies are NOT in any way connected with her because
A) this was an accidental breeding
B)this was her sisters Boyfriends Dog
C)She cant tell them what price to sell them for
D) She cant tell that what age to release the pups at
E)They are not even at her home

Well, for everyone looking at the ADD:
Stephanies , WEBSITE LINK , PHONE NUMBER , PUPPYFIND ACCOUNT is all linked to those designer little puppies!!!
IF in fact she has NOTHING TO DO WITH THOSE PUPPIES , why have her phone number, her website, her sire even listed ?????
DO YOU KNOW IT TAKES 5 minutes to create a puppy find account???
Does Sisters boyfriend, who has the puppies at his house ( ya know the same guys who as determined PRICE , AGE THE PUPS CAN LEAVE MOM) HAVE A PHONE NUMBER AND A ADDRESS????????

And Angie , Please get over yourself with the freakn size of flirt there are hundreds of members here with dogs the same size as Flirt!!! Stop refering to her like she was bred to stuff in a pocket book, she is a freaken dog...she was bred to live happily with a family , run play and be loved.. I dont care if she is 2 pds or10 pds... most importantly she is a dog, a family member and a living creature!!!

IF YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS HER LISTED AND WILL SHIP A 2 POUND DOG WORLD WIDE YOU ARE A VERY SICK WOMAN.. THAT IS SIMPLY DISGUSTING!!

AND YOU ARE THE ONE THAT TOLD ME THAT STEPHANIE TOLD YOU TO LIST FLIRT FOR 2250, THE SAME AS HER SISTER AND THAT SHE LISTED HER FOR YOU ON PUPPYFIND!! So dont start with the slander and lies!!! Its all in black and white!!!

http://www.puppyfind.com/view_listin...y%3D%26back%3D

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

No, I was referring to "championed by Tsa La Gi, tinies". I mean that breeder may have not approved of this. I've read of this happening to other breeders who thought they were selling to pet only homes.

Thats what I meant too when I posted...

as far as all the rest - it's all pretty confusing unless someone knows the people involved. The Purse Puppy claim and worldwide shipping (at 6 WEEKS) still rub me wrong not matter WHO posts ads like that

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by Angela

One more thing Tammy......SEVERAL times you have said how IZZY is you favorite out of your dogs...one example:
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I agree with you! I have one that is 4 and a half, one that is 5 and a half, one that is almost 9 and a half and my big guy that weighs 22lbs. Out of my four, Izzy is my absolute favorite size/weight...she my 9 and a half pound Yorkie.

Also, from a legal stand point facts need to get straight regarding Brynstaryt and its owner. Its so far off base here a lot of liable has been written and if phone calls are going out slander may be out there too. I am saying you are wrong, very wrong. I am done with this, the people who matter know the truth. I will only re enter this situation if Stephanie desires to take legal action regarding the liable and possible slander against her bussiness.

Angie

What part of the posts have not been factual, other than the stud for the schnorkies being listed as a Tsa La Gi dog? By the breeder's own admission what has been posted is factual with that one exception.

As such a respected yorkie breeder Stephanie is aware of the importance of reputation and should do everything necessary to protect and keep from tarnishing it. The fact that she chose not to use good judgment in this situation is not the fault of anyone but her!

Stephanie is aware of most show breeders opinions of the designer mix breeds. Just as she is aware the designer mix breeds are selling for alot more money today than they did even 4-5 years ago. Between charging more for Flirt and her sister because they are tiny and selling Schnorkies for exorbitant prices, indicates to me she is well aware also of how to exploit dogs!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Angela

OH and Tammy nice try, Stephanie never did you wrong without a way to make it right for you. You could have returned your yorkie if you werent happy with her.....you know that.

I have a simple question: how is "returning" a member of her family (Izzy) to Stephanie right for Tammy?

I'm not being confrontational, I'm really asking this bc I see no way how returning a loved family member could make it "right" for Tammy, or Izzy for that matter. That's just my opinion.

[Reese1]

I do NOT know any of the parties involved, so I just have my own observations and opinions based on the information that is provided.
Several things are distressing to me:

"Purse baby" & "Teeny tiny" are buzz words used to get a much higher price for a dog! What is really bothersome to me is the ad doesn't mention that the dogs are or will need to be spayed. This SHOULD be done before the dogs are sold!! They are a year old, so they are old enough to be spayed. I can't stand the thought of someone buying 2 1/2lb dogs and breeding them. If they are required to be spayed, why don't you mention that in the ad?????

Shipping them "worldwide" I hope that's not really the case and if NOT, again change the ad!!

I now see that three of the Schnorkies are pending! I can just about guarantee you that the ads being connected to the breeder and the mention of champions etc... is what attracted attention to these puppies, otherwise they would be just like any other mixed breed puppy!
There isn't any way the breeder could place these ads with her name, email, phone number, etc.. and not expect this to come back to her reputation.

Seriously, if this was an accident and they are not puppies in her care, control and she has no say over how much, when they leave, etc..
Then she should distance herself from them and her family should have their own account and ads placed.
I don't see what difference not having them on your own website makes when all your info is in the ad with a link back to your website!

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Angela

One more thing Tammy......SEVERAL times you have said how IZZY is you favorite out of your dogs...one example:
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I agree with you! I have one that is 4 and a half, one that is 5 and a half, one that is almost 9 and a half and my big guy that weighs 22lbs. Out of my four, Izzy is my absolute favorite size/weight...she my 9 and a half pound Yorkie.

Also, from a legal stand point facts need to get straight regarding Brynstaryt and its owner. Its so far off base here a lot of liable has been written and if phone calls are going out slander may be out there too. I am saying you are wrong, very wrong. I am done with this, the people who matter know the truth. I will only re enter this situation if Stephanie desires to take legal action regarding the liable and possible slander against her bussiness.

Angie

I can see why you are such good friends with Stephanie....same mentality. Stephanie and apparentaly your idea of "making things right", was ship her back (at 7 months old) and I will get you another. I asked her and I will ask you as well since you have decided to speak for her....what in the world was Stephanie going to do for Izzy and why couldn't she do that for her AND it be acceptable for Izzy to stay with her family?! None of this was my fault, nor my family's and definitely not Izzy's....so why is the suggestion of sending back my family member what you think that I should have done? Also, as for quoting some of the loving things that I have said about my precious Isabeau.....QUOTE AWAY....there's lots more on YT!! I meant EVERY SINGLE WORD of everything that I have written about Izzy....and then some! I adore her more than you can undertstand ("ship her back"). The fact that I love her does not change any of the wrongs made on Stephanie's part, PERIOD! I told her and I will tell you.....Stephanie should be thanking her lucky stars that she sold Izzy to people that do not view as dispoable and that we weren't the type of people to take her up on the offer of shipping her back at 7 months old. Iz was bought for breeding and do you think that me or my husband have once thought about rehoming her because we can't now.....NO WAY!!! So you using my words that I wrote about Izzy, doesn't make you or Stephanie look any better. Would you have liked if I trashd my sweet Isabeau all over YT?! It will NEVER EVER happen because I don't feel that way about her.....I love her too much. Now, Angie there are a ton more of those posts about Iz and there will be even more because she's my fur kid.

I paid $1800 (shippig included) for a dog that has the issues that Isabeau has....in case anyone is interested.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I have a simple question: how is "returning" a member of her family (Izzy) to Stephanie right for Tammy?

I'm not being confrontational, I'm really asking this bc I see no way how returning a loved family member could make it "right" for Tammy, or Izzy for that matter. That's just my opinion.

I So agree ! These aren't a pair of shoes we're talking about.

Not to mention the stress on any puppy being yanked from their mom - then yanked again only to go back - besides - most all of us fall in love from the start.

LOTS of people are 'taken' by breeders claims - it doesn't mean we don't provide a great home and in most cases - doesn't mean we have to 'return' a puppy cause a breeder misled them (which of course depends on the circumstances)

CLAIMER : I'm talking IN GENERAL so please don't read this as targeting this thread and or people involved cause it's too confusing to me to follow - and none of my business )

but when there is a dispute and we're talking hundreds or thousands of dollars a breeder may make - I believe they should STEP UP since they are the ones who brought these dogs into the world.

I also think the ad's touting Purse puppies - designer dogs and all that Teacup talk is only a reason to rake in more $$$$. People love small dogs - but why not just be honest from the beginning ? Sell your dogs to a GOOD home and be up front in how you word your 'sales'.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

I can see why you are such good friends with Stephanie....same mentality. Stephanie and apparentaly your idea of "making things right", was ship her back (at 7 months old) and I will get you another. I asked her and I will ask you as well since you have decided to speak for her....what in the world was Stephanie going to do for Izzy and why couldn't she do that for her AND it be acceptable for Izzy to stay with her family?! None of this was my fault, nor my family's and definitely not Izzy's....so why is the suggestion of sending back my family member what you think that I should have done? Also, as for quoting some of the loving things that I have said about my precious Isabeau.....QUOTE AWAY....there's lots more on YT!! I meant EVERY SINGLE WORD of everything that I have written about Izzy....and then some! I adore her more than you can undertstand ("ship her back"). The fact that I love her does not change any of the wrongs made on Stephanie's part, PERIOD! I told her and I will tell you.....Stephanie should be thanking her lucky stars that she sold Izzy to people that do not view as dispoable and that we weren't the type of people to take her up on the offer of shipping her back at 7 months old. Iz was bought for breeding and do you think that me or my husband have once thought about rehoming her because we can't now.....NO WAY!!! So you using my words that I wrote about Izzy, doesn't make you or Stephanie look any better. Would you have liked if I trashd my sweet Isabeau all over YT?! It will NEVER EVER happen because I don't feel that way about her.....I love her too much. Now, Angie there are a ton more of those posts about Iz and there will be even more because she's my fur kid.

I paid $1800 (shippig included) for a dog that has the issues that Isabeau has....in case anyone is interested.

Tammy, I so agree. When breeders treat their puppies/dogs as a product (return for a new one or shutup) then I do not regard them as reputable breeders. Everyone know something can go wrong, but how a breeder handles the issue is what is important to me. To tell you to ship a 7 month old puppy back to her for replacement just shows me she is being treated as product and not a living creature.

I can understand if it is a new puppy (even then people have fallen in love) but a 7 month old...no way. Who knows what would happen to them.

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I have a simple question: how is "returning" a member of her family (Izzy) to Stephanie right for Tammy?

I'm not being confrontational, I'm really asking this bc I see no way how returning a loved family member could make it "right" for Tammy, or Izzy for that matter. That's just my opinion.

I know nothing about Tammy and Izzy's situation, but it bothers me that a breeder's only way of making things right is to return the puppy - or "exchange" it for another. This goes for any breeder. My Maddox came to me at 13 weeks and is 25 1/2 weeks old now, several weeks younger than Tammy's Izzy was, and I CANNOT imagine giving my baby up. He is so much a part of my family and home already - it's cruel for a breeder to expect them to just be so easily returned like a piece of merchandise, IMO. I can certainly understand Tammy's decision to keep her baby even with any issues she may have had. Again, I don't know Tammy's situation or what Izzy's issues were....my comments are for any & all breeders who would do this to their pups and the new families.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Angela

One more thing Tammy......SEVERAL times you have said how IZZY is you favorite out of your dogs...one example:
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I agree with you! I have one that is 4 and a half, one that is 5 and a half, one that is almost 9 and a half and my big guy that weighs 22lbs. Out of my four, Izzy is my absolute favorite size/weight...she my 9 and a half pound Yorkie.

Also, from a legal stand point facts need to get straight regarding Brynstaryt and its owner. Its so far off base here a lot of liable has been written and if phone calls are going out slander may be out there too. I am saying you are wrong, very wrong. I am done with this, the people who matter know the truth. I will only re enter this situation if Stephanie desires to take legal action regarding the liable and possible slander against her bussiness.

Angie

Oh, and not that it matters, but I have NEVER said that Izzy is my favorite...I love all of my fur kids.

And Stephanie is welcome to pursue legal action...just let me know and I will have the vet office reprint all of the info from Izzy's appointment(s).

[jeanm1963]

Tammy , I am soo very happy Izzy is with you and she has found her forever family with a family like yours because if she was sold to the wrong family she could have been returned to Stephanie and found herself listed on puppyfind too!!
Im with you Bonnie, I couldn't of returned Laci even after two days no matter what the circumstance... for someone to even suggest such a thing after 7 months speaks volumes!!