Brynstar Yorkies Desiger Breeded Shnorkies

[jeanm1963]

Originally Posted by Breeze

In the other thread Angela said Flirt was just sold to a lady locally. I really hope the new owner is truly responsible and does nor breed her.

OH well that is great news, I do see they did change the price on puppy find from 2250 , to 2000 and instead of shipping worldwide it was changed to just the US, however she is still listed as the " purse puppy", maybe they just forgot to delete the listing!

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by MadDeDo

No, that is not at all what I meant. The option was never there for her to go back. I mean as far as my friend keeping her herself. That is up to her. No that was not even brought up for her to go back to Stephanie. My friend is a good person and she will put the welfare of the dog first no matter what.

Oh thank goodness...but my offer is still open. I have a 3.5# little girl that came through rescue that by the time she was 8 months old she was on her 3rd home. She also had an open font. and I am aware of the issues...so her story was heartbreaking to me and hit close to home.

I will say this whole thread is amazing because I believe more of this goes on in the show world and rarely does the truth come out even though many people know the truth. To many times in the breeding world the statement "buyer beware" comes to mind.

It be beyond me how people have no ethic's and will try to justify their actions. In many cases it is the dogs that suffer from poor breeding or breeding for profit (i.e. tinies) etc. Actually I do get tired of how breeders say they don't make $$$ and how hard the work is when you see these types of things happen. Stephanie and all breeders should stand behind their dogs and their breeding practices and do what is right for the dogs first. Case closed...no debate.

Thank you for coming forward and telling your part of the story without emotions..just facts...it does help validate what is going on and while Stephanie and other people want to say little YT won't impact them it is now on the internet forever. If other breeders want to buy from her then winning is more important to them then the dogs in their care. To many of you have come forward.

[MadDeDo]

Originally Posted by red98vett

KYBLUE - I'm so sorry for the loss of Blu -
what a horrible thing to happen

MadDeDo - who could bash you over what you posted ? You told a personal experience. I do agree with you regarding all the personal things being used as excuses or whatever - I'm sorry for anyone dealing with health issues - but if they're healthy enough to be selling a puppy for hundreds (thousands) of dollars - that should be the focus......I've read some of the other 'posts' by the 'sellers' involved and was pretty amazed at all the personal problems discussed

Thank you, and I TRULY hated to say that...but it's just not right. Of course it's different as a certainly don't see my dogs as "cars" or just part of a "business", BUT I feel that breeders have the responsibility to be just as professional as any other business owner and just don't feel it's right to use excuses from your personal life.

My heart is so heavy for Rose right now, she cried on the phone with me this afternoon telling me about it and she is just torn up. REGARDLESS of what caused his death (whether a genetic issue or not), the fact remains that Blu was sold on a strict show contract with a very visible open font that Stephanie (and her vet) knew about before he shipped. It was not mentioned or disclosed. Why hasn't she tried to fix it? Why has she ignored all contact until (of course) she posted on this thread today in response? It's just not fair to Rose, or to Blu...may he rest in peace...

[Reese1]

I'm so sorry about Blu, RIP! What a beautiful baby!

[KYBLUE]

thank you

you know i have also stated just fact there are no ashumations here as i have every email between myself and steph and all vet records that were sent to steph
and yes i did see lanna about three weeks ago and you discussed your concerns with me on her and she was much smaller than blu in everyway and decided to do the right thing and send her back to jane and have her spayed the one thing you did not mention was her horrible double row of teeth top and bottom that need to be taken care of and that she was sent to your friend with
and at her age they should have already have been pulled and taken care of
i do not know the reason why she was sent like that but oh well what can i say and why no rabie shot i do not know i do know my vet will not ship a puppy over 4 months without one it is our state law
and yes you did call and ask me for the vet's info to get her record

as for my blu i am in shock have no answers i still have not heard from steph by phone or email as i did not figure i would as she has not returned past emails and phones call here lately i do not look at things i guess as others would i know from time to time we as breeders have problems but i do feel it is how we treat people as to weather we gain or lose respect
at this point i hope steph and i can discuss the results and see what happens from there and it may be something that just happened and no real reason
and to be honest i would have never posted this on yt if she would have just responded to me i really do hate that i had to go this route
i think it so very odd that this thread was opened and a few days later my blu left this world i do not know maybe it was meant to be for a reason
i have to believe in something right at this point

thank you all for your kind words and to my dear friend thank you for sticking your neck out with lana i know you did not have to
and i see no reason for anyone to bash as we have talked about lana from
the get go and you have been concerned about these things from the time jane sent her to you

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by MadDeDo

Thank you, and I TRULY hated to say that...but it's just not right. Of course it's different as a certainly don't see my dogs as "cars" or just part of a "business", BUT I feel that breeders have the responsibility to be just as professional as any other business owner and just don't feel it's right to use excuses from your personal life.

My heart is so heavy for Rose right now, she cried on the phone with me this afternoon telling me about it and she is just torn up. REGARDLESS of what caused his death (whether a genetic issue or not), the fact remains that Blu was sold on a strict show contract with a very visible open font that Stephanie (and her vet) knew about before he shipped. It was not mentioned or disclosed. Why hasn't she tried to fix it? Why has she ignored all contact until (of course) she posted on this thread today in response? It's just not fair to Rose, or to Blu...may he rest in peace...

I think everyone easily can see you came here to post your own story & I hope you don't get any kind of grief over what you said and same for your friend Rose.

You were very tactful considering & I want to wish Blu's sister a healthy life....

In your thread when you mentioned no records of Vacs - the spinning & open font & it was sad to read....I was glad she's improved but I know you all must be very shaken up considering what happened to her brother....and again...I'm sorry for what happened to him.

[MadDeDo]

Originally Posted by KYBLUE

thank you

you know i have also stated just fact there are no ashumations here as i have every email between myself and steph and all vet records that were sent to steph
and yes i did see lanna about three weeks ago and you discussed your concerns with me on her and she was much smaller than blu in everyway and decided to do the right thing and send her back to jane and have her spayed the one thing you did not mention was her horrible double row of teeth top and bottom that need to be taken care of and that she was sent to your friend with
and at her age they should have already have been pulled and taken care of
i do not know the reason why she was sent like that but oh well what can i say and why no rabie shot i do not know i do know my vet will not ship a puppy over 4 months without one it is our state law
and yes you did call and ask me for the vet's info to get her record

as for my blu i am in shock have no answers i still have not heard from steph by phone or email as i did not figure i would as she has not returned past emails and phones call here lately i do not look at things i guess as others would i know from time to time we as breeders have problems but i do feel it is how we treat people as to weather we gain or lose respect
at this point i hope steph and i can discuss the results and see what happens from there and it may be something that just happened and no real reason
and to be honest i would have never posted this on yt if she would have just responded to me i really do hate that i had to go this route
i think it so very odd that this thread was opened and a few days later my blu left this world i do not know maybe it was meant to be for a reason
i have to believe in something right at this point

thank you all for your kind words and to my dear friend thank you for sticking your neck out with lana i know you did not have to
and i see no reason for anyone to bash as we have talked about lana from
the get go and you have been concerned about these things from the time jane sent her to you

There are just no words...even if he did die for some other reason, which is highly unlikely since he was so young and I KNOW firsthand how well you care for your dogs and how careful you are, then the fact still remains that she should have been in contact with you and taken care of this problem long before this moment. I just feel so bad for you...

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by KYBLUE

thank you

you know i have also stated just fact there are no ashumations here as i have every email between myself and steph and all vet records that were sent to steph
and yes i did see lanna about three weeks ago and you discussed your concerns with me on her and she was much smaller than blu in everyway and decided to do the right thing and send her back to jane and have her spayed the one thing you did not mention was her horrible double row of teeth top and bottom that need to be taken care of and that she was sent to your friend with
and at her age they should have already have been pulled and taken care of
i do not know the reason why she was sent like that but oh well what can i say and why no rabie shot i do not know i do know my vet will not ship a puppy over 4 months without one it is our state law
and yes you did call and ask me for the vet's info to get her record

as for my blu i am in shock have no answers i still have not heard from steph by phone or email as i did not figure i would as she has not returned past emails and phones call here lately i do not look at things i guess as others would i know from time to time we as breeders have problems but i do feel it is how we treat people as to weather we gain or lose respect
at this point i hope steph and i can discuss the results and see what happens from there and it may be something that just happened and no real reason
and to be honest i would have never posted this on yt if she would have just responded to me i really do hate that i had to go this route
i think it so very odd that this thread was opened and a few days later my blu left this world i do not know maybe it was meant to be for a reason
i have to believe in something right at this point

thank you all for your kind words and to my dear friend thank you for sticking your neck out with lana i know you did not have to
and i see no reason for anyone to bash as we have talked about lana from
the get go and you have been concerned about these things from the time jane sent her to you

I am so sorry for your loss of Blu, my heart breaks for you. Hugs.

You know I thought about what you said about it all happening now for a reason. I really hope that the reason was so that Stephanie and others who are breeding and selling yorkies in this way stop and think how many lives they are effecting. I hope they start being responsible.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by KYBLUE

thank you

you know i have also stated just fact there are no ashumations here as i have every email between myself and steph and all vet records that were sent to steph
and yes i did see lanna about three weeks ago and you discussed your concerns with me on her and she was much smaller than blu in everyway and decided to do the right thing and send her back to jane and have her spayed the one thing you did not mention was her horrible double row of teeth top and bottom that need to be taken care of and that she was sent to your friend with
and at her age they should have already have been pulled and taken care of
i do not know the reason why she was sent like that but oh well what can i say and why no rabie shot i do not know i do know my vet will not ship a puppy over 4 months without one it is our state law
and yes you did call and ask me for the vet's info to get her record

as for my blu i am in shock have no answers i still have not heard from steph by phone or email as i did not figure i would as she has not returned past emails and phones call here lately i do not look at things i guess as others would i know from time to time we as breeders have problems but i do feel it is how we treat people as to weather we gain or lose respect
at this point i hope steph and i can discuss the results and see what happens from there and it may be something that just happened and no real reason
and to be honest i would have never posted this on yt if she would have just responded to me i really do hate that i had to go this route
i think it so very odd that this thread was opened and a few days later my blu left this world i do not know maybe it was meant to be for a reason
i have to believe in something right at this point

thank you all for your kind words and to my dear friend thank you for sticking your neck out with lana i know you did not have to
and i see no reason for anyone to bash as we have talked about lana from
the get go and you have been concerned about these things from the time jane sent her to you

Rose,

My sincere condolences.

You'll have your answer in about 10 days.......

I wouldn't expect anything from Stephanie, don't set yourself up that way.
Blu's death isn't in vain, along with other's that have had not so favorable dealings with Brynstar, look at as opening up the eyes of those looking for a yorkie.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I wouldn't expect anything from Stephanie, don't set yourself up that way.
Blu's death isn't in vain, along with other's that have had not so favorable dealings with Brynstar, look at as opening up the eyes of those looking for a yorkie.

[linda44]

KYBLUE I cant tell you how heartbroken I am for you and your loss of Blu. He was absolutely beautiful.

[lulumom]

i have read this from beginning to end, along with the for sale thread.

first, i am so very sorry for the loss of blu. i am also sorry to find out his sister has health problems. if blu were mine, i'd be beyond devastated. if his sister were mine, i'd be petrified.

i am one of those with a lot yet to learn. i am not and do not ascribe to be a breeder. i am simply in love with my yorkie and to me, she is a fifth child. she is not a commodity any moreso than my sons or daughter. i consider myself a responsible adult and a humane one. yes, i'm human and therefore, prone to mistakes but when i make them, it goes without saying that it's my job to handle the fall out. i'm pretty sure this is standard for most adults? like the breeder in question here, i also happen to be a single parent. yes, there is drama, often of a uniquely stressful nature that goes along with that. still, who on the planet does not have drama and difficulty to deal with? to pull the "single parent" card as justification for refusing to deal with a self-created catastrophe....especially where the health of a living creature is involved, strikes me as neither responsible nor humane. and not to go too far off the topic, but it gives other single parents a bad rap.

the thing that really guts me here is that even now, the ducking and evading continues. i just don't understand that. it's incomprehensible to me that this breeder has not called rose. i don't even know rose but i feel like calling her myself! this is horrible.

anyhow....while i doubt it's any comfort at the moment, i just wanted to assure rose that blu is now forever burned in my memory and i have and will continue to learn from this entire horrendous situation. surely i will not be the only one. he was beautiful and it is clear how much you loved him.

[KYBLUE]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Rose,

My sincere condolences.

You'll have your answer in about 10 days.......

I wouldn't expect anything from Stephanie, don't set yourself up that way.
Blu's death isn't in vain, along with other's that have had not so favorable dealings with Brynstar, look at as opening up the eyes of those looking for a yorkie.

Thank you Mary

I do not have great expections
i just hope for janes sake that little lana lives a long full life and i am so thank full she landed in my friends hands as i know she will never be bred
and the right thing will be done for the little angel she is

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by KYBLUE

Thank you Mary

I do not have great expections
i just hope for janes sake that little lana lives a long full life and i am so thank full she landed in my friends hands as i know she will never be bred
and the right thing will be done for the little angel she is

Take care of yourself. Talk to you in the morning.

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I'm a little shocked at how easily someone will recommend a breeder, so many people just mean, "I gave the breeder money and I got a dog." I've read of members highly recommending a breeder and the puppy isn't even 10 weeks old yet. Thanks for posting this, it's always good to have more information.

I agree with you...people will recommend a breeder because they got their dog from them... Sorry, but i would not actually recommend the breeder I got Sadie from due to learning more about the breed standard. I don't think he's a bad guy, but he's not a place i would ever go back to or tell others to go to for a yorkie...if people ask where i got Sadie, i tell them the truth and then highly recommend looking on the YTCA website for a much better breeder that breeds to standard and has much better dogs and is a much more responsible breeder.