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12-28-2009, 06:41 PM | #31 | |
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12-28-2009, 07:01 PM | #32 | |
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12-28-2009, 07:15 PM | #33 |
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| Some people were asking why tails were docked in the first place. Here are some explanations. Why Are Dog's Tails Docked? 1. To avoid tail damage A number of working gundog breeds have to hunt game through heavy vegetation and thick brambles, where their fast tail action can easily lead to torn and bleeding tails which are painful and extremely difficult to treat. Docking the end of the tail eliminates the risk of injury. Working terriers are docked for the same reason. In addition, terriers which are bred to hunt below ground for purposes such as fox control, have their tails docked to a length which is more practical when working in a confined space. Other non-working breeds which have an enthusiastic tail action, are also liable to damage their tails, even in the home. Since docking was banned in Sweden in 1989, there has been a massive increase in tail injuries amongst previously docked breeds. Within the 50 undocked Pointer litters registered in that year with the Swedish Kennel Club, 38% of dogs suffered tail injury before they were 18 months old and in 1991, the number of individuals with tail injures had increased to 51% of the group. 2. For reasons of hygiene Long haired, thick coated breeds like the Yorkshire Terrier and Old English Sheepdog are docked to avoid the hair around the base of the tail becoming fouled by faeces. Even with constant grooming and washing, such fouling is unpleasant. If allowed to get out of hand, it can lead to severe problems of hygiene, or even flystrike and subsequent infestation by maggots. Hygiene problems can be greatly reduced or eliminated altogether by docking. 3. To maintain breed standards Breeds which have been docked over many generations have been selected for specific qualities of build and conformation, but not for tail length, shape or carriage. If left undocked, it is unlikely that the best dogs would carry good tails. In seeking to maintain the quality of the breeds, breeders would therefore be left with a diminished number of suitable sires and dams. The genetic pool would be reduced, greatly increasing the risk of hereditary diseases taking hold. Some breeds could even disappear for ever.
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12-28-2009, 07:23 PM | #34 | |
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First off, how many of our Yorkies are actually working ratting terriers? Probably close to .1% - if that. I would also like to know how many non-working dogs suffer from tail injuries. If it was THAT much of an issue -- don't ya think ALL dog breeds would have their tails docked? I've grown up around several dogs, dogsat for several dogs, had my own dog with a tail, and have never once seen a dog injure its tail. And that's from just my personal experiences with dogs. As for the hygiene... I've never had issues with that, either. It's not difficult to trim hair around the bum and a Yorkie with a docked tail will get poop stuck to the hair down there just as much as one with a tail. Most owners who own a dog such a Yorkie get them groomed or groom them themselves. I'm not saying I think docking is a procedure that will mentally harm the dog for the rest of its life or anything. I realize it's over in a few minutes/seconds and they get on with it. But it just seems unfair to chop a dogs natural tail that he is born with off simply for the human eye.
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12-28-2009, 08:30 PM | #35 |
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12-28-2009, 08:52 PM | #36 | |
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As far as injuries go, I have seen many. There is nothing pleasant about a dog that has a permanently crooked tail from being slammed in a door, or stepped on, and I have seen many many accidentally stepped on by a horse and more people in the country have small dogs and Yorkies than you might think. No, they are not working dogs, but they are companion animals and where people go, so do the dogs, and accidents do happen all the time. The other reasons, however I also agree are merely personal preference. I am not trying to start a controversial argument either, yet there seems to be a huge contradiction over the issue.....that's all.
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12-28-2009, 09:11 PM | #37 |
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| There's no necessity to have pet yorkies tails docked, but many people expect or prefer it. I know it's really painful for yorkies even if it's done when they're really young so they "won't remember it." That being said, both my yorkies have docked tails, but Bandit's is completely cut off...he has NO tail. We got him from a BYB before we knew any better and that was the least of his issues. They even gave us a discount because they cut his tail off!! I know that there are genuine reasons for some dogs to have their tails docked such as some working dogs, but generally in pet yorkies it's just for looks. GIven the option I wouldn't have it done, but that's just my opinion. |
12-28-2009, 09:18 PM | #38 |
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| Eva's tail was docked and has grown to about two inches. We leave the hair on it at about 3 inches long. It looks beautiful and it flounces around and she can still really wag it. Can't imagine her having no tail though, it is so fun to watch.
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12-28-2009, 09:20 PM | #39 |
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| I know!! When I got my second yorkie Nala, you could tell how happy she is by her non-stop tail!! I never really noticed how much I was missing. When Bandit is happy you just see the fur on his butt move....kinda like he's farting l0l |
12-28-2009, 09:35 PM | #40 | |
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It is not done early so they "won't remember it" it is done early because when puppies are 3 to 5 days old the tissue in the tail is cartledge and flexible. After 5 days old it starts to harden and becomes more like a bone, and that is why it is not recommended after 5 days. While I support tail docking, I do not support the procedure being performed after 5 days.
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12-28-2009, 09:58 PM | #41 |
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| This might be a stupid question, but would it be less painful if they did it during neutering while they were under anesthesia? I know you said it's done because of the cartilage being softer so it might be harder to heal? Just wondering... Like someone said previously, the same version of it being done to little boys has some hygienic advantages, but why do they do it right when their born? It's not like THAT grows cartilage haha |
12-28-2009, 11:19 PM | #42 | |
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Anyway, Uni's tail is a good length, thank goodness, about 2 1/2". She waves that flag proudly, but when I do see a full tail, I do get a bit jealous.
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12-28-2009, 11:45 PM | #43 | |
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I think that they dont do it while neutering or something like that when their under anesthesia because it would take longer for the skin or hair to grow back when their puppies and it probably looks more natural... I dont know... I just know that my baby didnt get her tail docked because I asked the lady not to do it. Im sure that if anyone asked the breeder (if they are planning to get a puppy from that breeder before their born) the breeder would not dock your puppies tail if you asked like mine did for me... I imagin it would just save them money anyway...
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12-29-2009, 01:54 AM | #44 |
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| The yorkie originally comes from England and never has a yorkie's tail been docked here. Some dogs have in the past like the doberman but now it is illegal to dock any dog's tail unless of course it is for a medical condition. I can't imagine the pain the little puppy goes through by having his tail cut off. It really doesn't make sense to me as to why it was started, its cruel to cut bits of an animal off. This is just my opinion and everybody is allowed their own, of course, and different countries and cultures do things differently. |
12-29-2009, 06:31 AM | #45 | |
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I am quoting my own post because some are asking why it is done so early after birth and not during a neutering.
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