Outrage!!!!!!!

[HendrixandLucy]

Originally Posted by redvalaria

you know, I have walked that walk.

I had three children, two in diapers. My husband was hit by a car and injured his back. He was a roofer. his company couldn't insure him with the fractured back, so he was fired. He ended up delivering pizza with three kids to feed because that's all he could do.

I cut hair when I could, did some freelance stuff when he could be home with the kids.

I didn't resort to anything unethical. I went to the bread store...found a mission that had "day old" foods donated, was it embarrasing? Sure, but I did not let my circumstances undermine my ethics.

wrong, is wrong. and if we were on any other thread and someone said "I am about to go pick up my 6 week old designer puppy" no one would be saying "well, its ok, cause they are broke, go ahead and risk it". We would be outraged.

life is shades of gray. believe me, I have lived in most of them, but if you give up your principles every time it gets tough? you didn't have many to begin with.

I am well aware that times are tough, but cutting hair and doing freelance work is not breeding a dog to sell her puppies to the first person who walks by with some cash.

I have a 5 week old puppy living with me right now that I bought from one of these people selling roadside puppies. It made me so sick and so upset that I bought her last puppy and brought it home to find it a real home.... not someone who is going to put a bow on it and put it under the xmas tree for their kids until they get bored of it and the poor thing ends up in a shelter. WRONG IS WRONG. PERIOD.

[Kirby]

That's not fair to say people who aren't jumping on your bandwagon hate dogs. I love dogs, but I also love people and care about their well being. If someone is selling puppies on the side of the road, yes it's bad. Instead of buying the puppy and feeding into the person's business, you should have asked the person why he/she is doing it and if that person realizes it's illegal. Offer to point the person in the right direction such as the local humane society. If the person is down on his/her luck, tell them where the local soup kitchen or food pantry is located. It's easier to criticize versus understanding.

Originally Posted by HendrixandLucy

I am well aware that times are tough, but cutting hair and doing freelance work is not breeding a dog to sell her puppies to the first person who walks by with some cash.

I have a 5 week old puppy living with me right now that I bought from one of these people selling roadside puppies. It made me so sick and so upset that I bought her last puppy and brought it home to find it a real home.... not someone who is going to put a bow on it and put it under the xmas tree for their kids until they get bored of it and the poor thing ends up in a shelter. WRONG IS WRONG. PERIOD.

[MI Yorkielover]

Originally Posted by Kirby

That's not fair to say people who aren't jumping on your bandwagon hate dogs. I love dogs, but I also love people and care about their well being. If someone is selling puppies on the side of the road, yes it's bad. Instead of buying the puppy and feeding into the person's business, you should have asked the person why he/she is doing it and if that person realizes it's illegal. Offer to point the person in the right direction such as the local humane society. If the person is down on his/her luck, tell them where the local soup kitchen or food pantry is located. It's easier to criticize versus understanding.

Well said Kirby

[HendrixandLucy]

Originally Posted by Kirby

That's not fair to say people who aren't jumping on your bandwagon hate dogs. I love dogs, but I also love people and care about their well being. If someone is selling puppies on the side of the road, yes it's bad. Instead of buying the puppy and feeding into the person's business, you should have asked the person why he/she is doing it and if that person realizes it's illegal. Offer to point the person in the right direction such as the local humane society. If the person is down on his/her luck, tell them where the local soup kitchen or food pantry is located. It's easier to criticize versus understanding.

Well to me the bottom line is that people can think and make decisions for themselves. A dog is completely helpless in our hands. A human being knows the difference between right and wrong and disregarding the life of an innocent animal is wrong- there is absolutely no excuse.

[LilMissy]

To me, it's no different than selling children on the side of the road. These are living, breathing beings.

[MrsPeanut]

:thum bup:

Originally Posted by LilMissy

To me, it's no different than selling children on the side of the road. These are living, breathing beings.

[HendrixandLucy]

Originally Posted by LilMissy

To me, it's no different than selling children on the side of the road. These are living, breathing beings.

EXACTLY! Well said and I completely 100% agree.

[Symph2001]

Originally Posted by LilMissy

To me, it's no different than selling children on the side of the road. These are living, breathing beings.

Playing Devils Advocate therein lies a quandary.....

If you had to make the choice give your child up to foster care cause you couldn't keep the heat on and the State was getting ready to take them or sell a puppy on the side of the road which would you do? Those are your only 2 choices. Neither is not an option. Pulling another scenario out of the air is not an option. Which would you choose? Child or puppy?



Remindes me of some of the great questions posed in the Book of Questions.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by redvalaria

yes, the economy is bad...

but saying "sometimes it is ok to be unethical, if cirmcumstances get bad" is sort of like saying "its ok to rob a bank, as long as you need the money"

selling 6 week old "designer dogs" who have likely had little or no vet care, certainly no medical testing, and should in no way be leaving their mother is just irresponsible....and, while we are at it: how about the poor unsuspecting person who doens't know how bad it is, who buys one of these puppies and ends up with thousands of dollars in vet care? Can they afford it?

Nope, situational ethics don't work for me...if its wrong. IT'S WRONG. and just because times are tough, the morality of it doesn't change.

You want something for the grandbabies? Craigslist is full of pt/temp jobs or odd jobs people want done. Or maybe you could MAKE something for them, really show them the meaning of christmas is not an XBOX.

[redvalaria]

Originally Posted by Symph2001

Playing Devils Advocate therein lies a quandary.....

If you had to make the choice give your child up to foster care cause you couldn't keep the heat on and the State was getting ready to take them or sell a puppy on the side of the road which would you do? Those are your only 2 choices. Neither is not an option. Pulling another scenario out of the air is not an option. Which would you choose? Child or puppy?



Remindes me of some of the great questions posed in the Book of Questions.

That's not devils advocate, and there are ALWAYS other solutions. You didn't say "give up your child or murder a family member with money. Or starve your child or rob a bank.

You always have a choice, to do what is right, to do what is hard, or to do what is easy....this woman did not just start selling dogs when things got tough (or where did she have the money to buy 2 breeding dogs AND according to the OP of this, she has sold dogs before).

Its no different from me saying "well, I am hungry, times are hard, I will embezzle money from my company, because they have lots". Its wrong, there are always solutions: public assistance, charity organizations, food pantry's. She got a job at McDonalds....why doesn't he? How about instead of buying a lot of presents for the grand kids, they make coupon books saying "board game night at grandma's" and "sledding afternoon" or "movie night" with DVD's from the library?

All they are doing, is perpetuating the idea that christmas is about STUFF, and that its ok to do anything, to get it.

[MaddiesMommie]

It is not illegal everywhere.
Actually, it is a common sight here to see people in the parking lot of a store GIVING away puppies out of the back of their vehicle. Road side fleamarkets and parking lots are pretty common places to see puppies of all breeds for sale or FREE. We have NO shelter or pound here. Killing unwanted litters or setting them out somewhere is also not an uncommon thing. ugh!

I don't think that selling puppies in this manner is right at all. However, I may have viewed it differently earlier in life. I grew up in a family where animals were animals, living beasts, thats all. My family had dogs (all outside breeds) and we loved them and took care of them. However, my dad never paid a penny for any of them, and I had bought a sweater and tried to wrestle it on our red bone hound, Oh my!

My point is, not all people are blessed with viewing thier Yorkie the same way we do. Although I see the fault in selling puppies on the side of the road or in a parking lot, I also know I do not view my girls the same way others do. These are not just "dogs" to me. But come on, we've all gotten the weird looks and comments when we tell a story about our 'baby' or something we do for them, or better yet how much thier food costs!

[3PawsomeYorkies]

Originally Posted by HendrixandLucy

I cannot believe all of you who posted "yes it is that bad" and make it seem like this is ok. SELLING PUPPIES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IS NOT OK. I don't care if you can't put food on the table. A dogs life is not something that we can throw away to make a quick buck.
Chances are, that puppy who gets bought for 100$ on the side of the road is going to end up in a shelter or not properly taken care of.
And ontop of it all it is ILLEGAL to sell puppies like that because it is ANIMAL CRUELTY!

I thought you people were dog lovers.....

Whoa! Im sorry I LOVE MY DOGS TO DEATH but if I had to sell my furbabies(no matter where i sold them) to feed my skinkids,then by all means call me what you want. I cant say Id choose animals over my family but it doesnt mean Im not a doglover. I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY so what? Shoot me.

[3PawsomeYorkies]

Originally Posted by Symph2001

Playing Devils Advocate therein lies a quandary.....

If you had to make the choice give your child up to foster care cause you couldn't keep the heat on and the State was getting ready to take them or sell a puppy on the side of the road which would you do? Those are your only 2 choices. Neither is not an option. Pulling another scenario out of the air is not an option. Which would you choose? Child or puppy?



Remindes me of some of the great questions posed in the Book of Questions.

:thum bup:

[Bianca]

Originally Posted by 3PawsomeYorkies

Whoa! Im sorry I LOVE MY DOGS TO DEATH but if I had to sell my furbabies(no matter where i sold them) to feed my skinkids,then by all means call me what you want. I cant say Id choose animals over my family but it doesnt mean Im not a doglover. I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY so what? Shoot me.

[Cerise]

Reading all of the post I guess I shouldn't complain about the young women I saw selling two of her Yorkie puppies at The Domain (a high end shi shi outdoor shopping center) here in Austin this past weekend (okay I'm being sarcastic here) Yes I will complain because it's WRONG!!!

It was very crowded and she had them sitting in a cute pink stroller for people to notice as they walk by. I walked up and asked her about them because it was just strange. She was too obvious. She looked out of place. She said she has many more at home and she breeds them for a living. I said "oh really" and told her that I know all about Yorkies. She asked me if I wanted to buy one and I told her no and that I found a good reputable breeder and beautiful baby all ready. I asked her were they purebred because they look so different, being supposedly from the same litter, and told her that. They looked pitiful and ugly Sorry but they did, One was very fat and the other was very skinny with ears that were skinny and pointed east/west and very long. She then looked at me like please leave because she began to act nervous. I looked at her shook my head, looked at all of the stupid people making a fuss over them, then walked away.