Teaspoon yorkie

[chellabree]

Originally Posted by Plumeria

Okay people, I am so confused!!! I bought a Yorkie this September and was told she was a teacup Yorkie. I was told that she would remain small like as in three pounds. I wanted soemthing to put in my hip pocket and carry around the house with me. The breeder told me that Jazzi was twelve weeks old and I have had her for two months now so the age should be right. Now I am wondering something else....have I been scammed? I love this little dog and she is healthy as can be. She eats very well and she can out poop my husband!!!! She is registered with the American Canine Association....what is the difference between the two...AKA...and ACA????
Did I get ripped off by a shady breeder????

I feel the same way about my dog. I went to a breeder who I thought was reputible (we had references). There were two pups left one being my Oscar. He was about 2 lbs at 10 weeks. When the breeder gave us the papers, the birthday was off and the parents were different than what we were told. I didn't realize any of this until the vet told me that he seemed much younger than the paper listed and also that he was too young to have had the vaccines that the breeder gave him. He is now at 5.2 lbs and has had a ton of helath problems. We didn't get him registered cause that would have been $1000 more. I think I got scammed. He is my little angel and now I wouldn't change him but the vet bills and problems have been exhausting.
Hopefully his parents weren't "teacups" that shouldn't have been bred in the first place.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by chellabree

I feel the same way about my dog. I went to a breeder who I thought was reputible (we had references). There were two pups left one being my Oscar. He was about 2 lbs at 10 weeks. When the breeder gave us the papers, the birthday was off and the parents were different than what we were told. I didn't realize any of this until the vet told me that he seemed much younger than the paper listed and also that he was too young to have had the vaccines that the breeder gave him. He is now at 5.2 lbs and has had a ton of helath problems. We didn't get him registered cause that would have been $1000 more. I think I got scammed. He is my little angel and now I wouldn't change him but the vet bills and problems have been exhausting.
Hopefully his parents weren't "teacups" that shouldn't have been bred in the first place.

Neither one of you were scammed, just taken because both of you were part of the unsuspecting public that falls for the "Teacup" advertising ploy. No reputable breeder would charge you $1,000 more to provide papers. A reputable breeder offers pet quality pups for one price and show quality pups for another. You obtain papers in both transactions; the difference is one is on a limited registration (no breeding rights) and the other is on an open registration (breeding rights), but with a very strong contract.

[chellabree]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Neither one of you were scammed, just taken because both of you were part of the unsuspecting public that falls for the "Teacup" advertising ploy. No reputable breeder would charge you $1,000 more to provide papers. A reputable breeder offers pet quality pups for one price and show quality pups for another. You obtain papers in both transactions; the difference is one is on a limited registration (no breeding rights) and the other is on an open registration (breeding rights), but with a very strong contract.

I wish I did more research before buying. The breeder never actually called him a teacup. I probably should have known something was wrong. When we looked at the last 2 puppies, Oscar was just mellow and the other was hyper. Maybe that was because he was sick already. He just stole my heart tho and I love him to pieces. Next time I will learn from my mistakes and do more research and ask more questions.

[Lolli_lah]

Just going to throw my 2 cents in here, hope there's no offense taken as it's just my personal experiences.

I don't even know how or why you'd register a dog for ACA or AKC. I honestly don't know the point or anything even though I know what the letters stand for. But, is it mostly just for dog showing or what?

And also thought I'd input my experience with Lolli

Well, my boyfriend decided to adopt a dog but instead of surprising me with something unknowing what I'd like or anything, he gave me a budget and I went out and found the types of dogs available for rescue and researched any breed that was a possibility. Finally I found my yorkie, but I had already done a ton of research as I have ALWAYS loved this breed anyway and I'm one to go out and learn about things I like, immediately.

I made the mistake when I was a lot younger by not researching aquatic turtles before I got one. I guess that's why parents allowing kids to get certain types of pets to learn responsibility is important to life. I had joined a turtle forum and found out all this information about how they need a lot of water in their habitat, not the little tiny 1 or 2 inches of water you see so commonly in movies or at the dreaded Flea Markets *shivers* and many other tid bits of information that would have made a whole world of difference in him surviving.

So yeah I guess I am just overly thorough in researching what I purchase before I purchase, because I don't want another situation where I have some living thing in a bad situation because of my ignorance.

Oh and I wanted to ask one last thing/make one last point. I have read on various places that RUNT is actually a natural DEFORMITY. Is this true? I don't know how reputable the sources were of where I've read that nor do I remember where I have read it but I know it was more than 1 place.

So if that is true, why would anyone want to create another deformity from something already deformed? Can you imagine doing that to humans or other animals??

P.S. As I was researching turtles in my younger years, I found that people sometimes get a 2 headed deformity AND BREED IT to get more 2 headeds to make money...

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Lolli_lah

So if that is true, why would anyone want to create another deformity from something already deformed? Can you imagine doing that to humans or other animals??

P.S. As I was researching turtles in my younger years, I found that people sometimes get a 2 headed deformity AND BREED IT to get more 2 headeds to make money...

Interesting analogy...same principle.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

The current trend of reputable responsible breeders is not to breed them smaller, but healthier. Granted those that are breeding to fulfill a pet market will breed to supply the buyers market, there will always be those types of breeders. However, people are becoming more and more educated on how to find a reputable responsible breeder that they can obtain a healthy, good representation of the breed.

In yorkshire terrier breeding small dogs to small dogs does not produce small dogs.....Inbreeding does.

Exactly!

More people will eventually learn that HEALTHIER is the key to quality Yorkie breeding, not smaller, especially if they get a chance to read about all of the drama of sick and dying puppies before they make their purchase.

To the poster of the sick puppy...many owners of sick puppies claim they wouldn't trade them for nothing because they love them so much. I can understand the love and I think that is okay if you can afford it, but not everyone can afford these type of on-going vet bills. I'm sure there are some owners who really wish they had waited and became more informed before their purchase. I say to them, love your babies and don't get offended when people on YT answer your questions by using logic, common sense, or experience, because there are serious Yorkie experts on here (I'm not one of them) who know their stuff, and they will sometimes tell you what you may not want to hear, like or agree with. But it's good information.

Having a new puppy that is constantly getting sick or needing medical attention is NOT a good sign for where the puppy came from. IMO the purchaser of that sickly puppy was scammed because the selling breeder cared more for the money instead of the breed, no matter how long they claim to have been in the breeding business. Though there are many Yorkies given up to shelters and rescues for these discouraging reasons, these breeders know Yorkies sell.

[Plumeria]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Neither one of you were scammed, just taken because both of you were part of the unsuspecting public that falls for the "Teacup" advertising ploy. No reputable breeder would charge you $1,000 more to provide papers. A reputable breeder offers pet quality pups for one price and show quality pups for another. You obtain papers in both transactions; the difference is one is on a limited registration (no breeding rights) and the other is on an open registration (breeding rights), but with a very strong contract.

I agree with you. I was concerned at first but my dog is very healthy and I had her checked out before I bought her. She was over a thousand but I just figured that is what Yorkies cost. And you are right, I had no idea of what was involved in the breed itself. I'm blessed and have the money to care for her in any way she needs.

I have always heard the word "teacup" to mean small, i.e. teacup poodles and so on. I have decided NOT to send the ACA any money to register my little lady. She wont be a "show dog" except for the show she puts on for us every night during our play time.
Thank you for the information you have given.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Plumeria

I agree with you. I was concerned at first but my dog is very healthy and I had her checked out before I bought her. She was over a thousand but I just figured that is what Yorkies cost. And you are right, I had no idea of what was involved in the breed itself. I'm blessed and have the money to care for her in any way she needs.

I have always heard the word "teacup" to mean small, i.e. teacup poodles and so on. I have decided NOT to send the ACA any money to register my little lady. She wont be a "show dog" except for the show she puts on for us every night during our play time.
Thank you for the information you have given.

I'm not sure what the ACA is or where you live. Is it a Kennel club such as American Kennel Club or Canadian Kennel Club?

Never mind American Kennel Association is notable registry. Again it is used by bybers and puppy mills that want to fool the unsuspecting public that they are purchasing a papered dog. What amazes me is that someone would even think of charging an extra $1,000 for papers that are worthless. The only way you could show your dog in dog shows is if your dog is AKC or CKC

[Plumeria]

The papers the breeder gave me say "American Canine Association" and give the mom and the dad's names and the name of the person who owns them. This breeder did not own either dog so I don't know what part she played unless it was that she had the space to keep the dogs. She had a very nice place, sort of out in the country. She is outside of Houston.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Plumeria

I agree with you. I was concerned at first but my dog is very healthy and I had her checked out before I bought her. She was over a thousand but I just figured that is what Yorkies cost. And you are right, I had no idea of what was involved in the breed itself. I'm blessed and have the money to care for her in any way she needs.

I have always heard the word "teacup" to mean small, i.e. teacup poodles and so on. I have decided NOT to send the ACA any money to register my little lady. She wont be a "show dog" except for the show she puts on for us every night during our play time.
Thank you for the information you have given.

If you go to the AKC and read the standard for each of the toy dogs....there is no such thing as a Teacup in any of those breeds.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Plumeria

The papers the breeder gave me say "American Canine Association" and give the mom and the dad's names and the name of the person who owns them. This breeder did not own either dog so I don't know what part she played unless it was that she had the space to keep the dogs. She had a very nice place, sort of out in the country. She is outside of Houston.

Mmmm the breeder didn't own either dog, then she couldn't have been the breeder, more likely a broker.

The papers she gave you were worthless...

[Plumeria]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Mmmm the breeder didn't own either dog, then she couldn't have been the breeder, more likely a broker.

The papers she gave you were worthless...

well like I said...I am NOT sending them in anyway so I could care less. I didn't know the lady so she could be the spawn of Satan for all I know. Matters not to me...I have a beautiful little dog out of the whole deal...I'm happy!!!

[chellabree]

Originally Posted by Cerise

Exactly!

More people will eventually learn that HEALTHIER is the key to quality Yorkie breeding, not smaller, especially if they get a chance to read about all of the drama of sick and dying puppies before they make their purchase.

To the poster of the sick puppy...many owners of sick puppies claim they wouldn't trade them for nothing because they love them so much. I can understand the love and I think that is okay if you can afford it, but not everyone can afford these type of on-going vet bills. I'm sure there are some owners who really wish they had waited and became more informed before their purchase. I say to them, love your babies and don't get offended when people on YT answer your questions by using logic, common sense, or experience, because there are serious Yorkie experts on here (I'm not one of them) who know their stuff, and they will sometimes tell you what you may not want to hear, like or agree with. But it's good information.

Having a new puppy that is constantly getting sick or needing medical attention is NOT a good sign for where the puppy came from. IMO the purchaser of that sickly puppy was scammed because the selling breeder cared more for the money instead of the breed, no matter how long they claim to have been in the breeding business. Though there are many Yorkies given up to shelters and rescues for these discouraging reasons, these breeders know Yorkies sell.

I admit, I made a mistake and probably was scammed, but I do love my dog and I can aford to take care of him so I would never give him up to a shelter. I feel this dog came to me for a reason. He may not have even had a chance with someone else. He has gotten through his illnesses and is doing much better. I gave him a chance at life. I have seen many other posts on here of people taking care of sick animals and I want to give them my best. No one would choose to get a sick puppy but if it is what you are given in life the only thing you could do is take care of them the best you can. I realize not everyone can afford it they just have to do what is best for them and the animal.
Every animal deserves a chance at life. So in response, no I wouldn't change the fact that I got my dog. He has taught me a lot in the time he has been with me and will hopefully give me many years of happiness. He's taught me patience and made me a more caring person.
I agree that breeders need to stop trying to sell sell sell and care more about quality not quantity. Healthy puppies should be the ONLY goal.
Sorry for rambling.

[Plumeria]

Don't worry about it any longer...every person on this board had to have been scammed on something at one time, or two, in their lives. You were placed in that dogs life just as he was placed in yours. What a blessing the two of you have made for each other. I'm starting to believe that "papers" are everything to some folks instead of what really matters...a really happy little dog and a really happy human! Enjoy life...it's too short!!!

[chellabree]

Originally Posted by Plumeria

Don't worry about it any longer...every person on this board had to have been scammed on something at one time, or two, in their lives. You were placed in that dogs life just as he was placed in yours. What a blessing the two of you have made for each other. I'm starting to believe that "papers" are everything to some folks instead of what really matters...a really happy little dog and a really happy human! Enjoy life...it's too short!!!

Thanks, that means alot.