I don't think this is good at all..

[amanda350]

Do you have any pictures of the little boy that you are supposed to get or is he still listed on the website? I have heard alot of stories of people picking a puppy from a broker and being sent a different puppy.. I cannot imagine that this person has all of the puppies listed on the website at their house and are able to tell the difference between all of them. Don't brokers usually buy a whole litter for cheap and resell? That means they would have to take the puppies with them until they sell them, not leave them with the breeder..Maybe you could post a pic of then one you want and then one of the one they send you and see if it is the same one. If it is clearly not, you may be able to recoup some of your money. Good luck with your new puppy!!

[DaisyMom]

My daughter is home sick from school today, and I hate to see her suffer.....maybe that is why this thread is making me all..... smooshy!

It is such an emotional journey to take on the responsibility for another life; in many ways a fur-kid is just like any other, don't you think? When it is your 'first,' every decision seems to be that much more important to you.....

OP, one of the major lessons I have learned is 'once you know better, you do better.' It doesn't help at all to beat yourself up about something you couldn't have understood at the time. Seeking out information and being open to learning says so much about you! I'm sure you will be an excellent parent.

You are entitled to be over-the-moon excited about your new puppy, so don't let anything change that! Congrats!

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by amanda350

Do you have any pictures of the little boy that you are supposed to get or is he still listed on the website? I have heard alot of stories of people picking a puppy from a broker and being sent a different puppy.. I cannot imagine that this person has all of the puppies listed on the website at their house and are able to tell the difference between all of them. Don't brokers usually buy a whole litter for cheap and resell? That means they would have to take the puppies with them until they sell them, not leave them with the breeder..Maybe you could post a pic of then one you want and then one of the one they send you and see if it is the same one. If it is clearly not, you may be able to recoup some of your money. Good luck with your new puppy!!

You are referring to the old "bait & switch". That happened to a member on another forum I belong to. When she went to pick up her puppy at the airport, not only was it much older than it was supposed to be, it wasn't even the same sex!

[littlepixie12]

Originally Posted by yorkienewb

They are giving me a ten year health guarantee.
But I'm also thinking pet insurance is going to be something I should carry on this little guy as well now. I feel horrible for this, but I'm just going to do all I can to make sure he is okay and that we are both protected and prepared if anything should happen in the future.

Ten year really? I have never heard of this? Anyway, you already love your baby so just enjoy him and thats it. I know you feel bad but you didnt do it on purpose and this puppy will get lots of love and be so blessed because he is with you. So dont stress over things you cant change and just be the best mommy you can be. Dont worry over diseases either because you will drive yourself crazy. I would however get pet insurance as soon as possible, because in the even that down the road he does develop something serious it will be covered. If you wait, it wont be. I have PetPlan and they cover ALOT of things most others dont - like genetic diseases and breed specific diseases too.

GL and post pics when you get your baby!!

[littlepixie12]

Originally Posted by DaisyMom

It is such an emotional journey to take on the responsibility for another life; in many ways a fur-kid is just like any other, don't you think? When it is your 'first,' every decision seems to be that much more important to you.....

OP, one of the major lessons I have learned is 'once you know better, you do better.' It doesn't help at all to beat yourself up about something you couldn't have understood at the time. Seeking out information and being open to learning says so much about you! I'm sure you will be an excellent parent.

You are entitled to be over-the-moon excited about your new puppy, so don't let anything change that! Congrats!

[yorkienewb]

Originally Posted by amanda350

Do you have any pictures of the little boy that you are supposed to get or is he still listed on the website? I have heard alot of stories of people picking a puppy from a broker and being sent a different puppy.. I cannot imagine that this person has all of the puppies listed on the website at their house and are able to tell the difference between all of them. Don't brokers usually buy a whole litter for cheap and resell? That means they would have to take the puppies with them until they sell them, not leave them with the breeder..Maybe you could post a pic of then one you want and then one of the one they send you and see if it is the same one. If it is clearly not, you may be able to recoup some of your money. Good luck with your new puppy!!

This is the pictures that I have saved of the little one on my computer (I attached them), if you are just looking on the website and type in puppy ID 147894, he comes up there as well. I will definitely look at that closely, I never even thought of that. I'm going to save the pictures on my phone and give him a good look over when I get home. Thanks for the info!!

Originally Posted by DaisyMom

My daughter is home sick from school today, and I hate to see her suffer.....maybe that is why this thread is making me all..... smooshy!

It is such an emotional journey to take on the responsibility for another life; in many ways a fur-kid is just like any other, don't you think? When it is your 'first,' every decision seems to be that much more important to you.....

OP, one of the major lessons I have learned is 'once you know better, you do better.' It doesn't help at all to beat yourself up about something you couldn't have understood at the time. Seeking out information and being open to learning says so much about you! I'm sure you will be an excellent parent.

You are entitled to be over-the-moon excited about your new puppy, so don't let anything change that! Congrats!

I hope your daughter feels better! fur-kid's definitely are just like any other. Thank you so much for the kind words, I am over the moon and much more excited (is today over yet? haha) - I'm not ever going to let anything change that, just trying to get any/all information I can so that I can make sure he is fully protected and while it's impossible to make sure NOTHING ever happens, the more precautions I take, the better.

[MI Yorkielover]

It's my understanding that sometimes a reputable breeder will use a lead referral site for leads or inquiries only and then the breeder contacts you directly to ask you questions about the home environment and such before they agree to the sale. In many of these cases they are not puppy mill puppies but puppies raised in a home. Ask your Aunt if she spoke to the actual breeder. Regardless you will most likely fall in love immediately. Your vet will tell you if your puppy has come to you healthy and will check for lp and any obvious disorders. Congratulations, relax and enjoy your new little one.
Jackie & my Sophie

[Vwitscher]

Originally Posted by yorkienewb

What the heck is NuVet supplements? Should I give them to my little man or just stick with the pet insurance?

I knew someone who tried to talk me into having NuVet supplements as a condition of the contract. She said the breeder sets up an account with the company and any time someone that they send to NuVet buys anything, part of it goes to the breeder. Any other breeder they talk into signing up goes under their account also so anyone 2nd breeder sends to NuVet, the company will split the $$ to the breeders. Typical pyramid setup. It supplies an additional income for the breeders that require this and an easy out for not fulfilling a contract. There are NO vitamins that will stop liver shunt or the many other possible things a puppy may be born with. I am not saying they are bad vitamins as I really have no experience with vitamins from them. I just am not going to require any product be continued as a means of living up to a contract. I say stick with the pet insurance and anything your vet says your puppy needs.

Hope this isn't too confusing.

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by Vwitscher

I knew someone who tried to talk me into having NuVet supplements as a condition of the contract. She said the breeder sets up an account with the company and any time someone that they send to NuVet buys anything, part of it goes to the breeder. Any other breeder they talk into signing up goes under their account also so anyone 2nd breeder sends to NuVet, the company will split the $$ to the breeders. Typical pyramid setup. It supplies an additional income for the breeders that require this and an easy out for not fulfilling a contract. There are NO vitamins that will stop liver shunt or the many other possible things a puppy may be born with. I am not saying they are bad vitamins as I really have no experience with vitamins from them. I just am not going to require any product be continued as a means of living up to a contract. I say stick with the pet insurance and anything your vet says your puppy needs.

Hope this isn't too confusing.

Yeah, that's what I figured. The breeder/broker gets a kick back from the sale of vitamins.

Since after the first year all you would get back would be about $400 if the puppy died from a genetic condition and they will not reimburse vet bills, they would more than make up the $400 on those that claimed it through the vitamin sales.

The health guarantee really isn't worth anything IMO. It's just a marketing ploy.

Get good pet insurance asap, although most consider genetic conditions to be pre-existing and won't cover them. You can get a bile acids test done as early as 12 weeks and I would absolutely recommend doing that to make sure he doesn't have a liver shunt. Also have your vet check his knees for luxating patellas. Both knee and liver surgery run into the thousands. All you have to do is read through the Health section here to see how common these conditions are in Yorkies.

[Lou]

Rissa,
We adopted our shih tzu from a puppy mill when she was still a little skinny thing. She has grown into a wonderful healthy adult 10.5 years old now) with very few problems. Once she gets to know people and gets rid of her shyness with them everyone falls in love with her because she is just the sweetest little thing. She mothers everyone but I don't know where she got it from since she was so young when we got her she couldn't possibly have picked it up from another dog.
Anyway. Don't worry about your dog having any emotional problems. I'm sure it will be fine. Even the adult dogs we rescued eventually turned into great dogs. Love is the best thing you can give them and I think you have plenty of that!

Welcome to YT.

[Lilyshuman]

QUOTE=DaisyMom;2849565]My daughter is home sick from school today, and I hate to see her suffer.....maybe that is why this thread is making me all..... smooshy!

It is such an emotional journey to take on the responsibility for another life; in many ways a fur-kid is just like any other, don't you think? When it is your 'first,' every decision seems to be that much more important to you.....

OP, one of the major lessons I have learned is 'once you know better, you do better.' It doesn't help at all to beat yourself up about something you couldn't have understood at the time. Seeking out information and being open to learning says so much about you! I'm sure you will be an excellent parent.



You are entitled to be over-the-moon excited about your new puppy, so don't let anything change that! Congrats![/QUOTE]

this is such good advice

[IHeartSnS]

Before I was educated about Puppy Mills I fell in love with a puppy from one of the puppy stores in the mall. Luckily he is very very healthy now, he's 2 years, but I wouldn't do it again just knowing where he came from. Unfortunatly I just recently found this site, although I knew what puppy mills were I've become more and more educated as time goes by. I wish you the best of luck with your baby and hopefully everything goes well!

[margaritaville]

I tried to look him up but it said "this puppy has found it's forever home". Congratulations, take a deep breath and hopefully you'll get a good one. I have one that is def. a puppy mill dog as I got him from a pet store (before I was enlightened) and another one that I have very little history on as she is a rescue, but I love them more than anything. Can't wait to see pixs of the little guy.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Have you read the guarantee? If the puppy dies within one year from a genetic condition, they will give you a "replacement" puppy. If your puppy dies from a genetic condition after that, they will reimburse you 45% of the purchase price.

They will not reimburse you for any vet bills so if your puppy has a treatable genetic condition like a liver shunt, you will have to cover the cost of the surgery yourself. Ditto with Legg-Perthes, etc. Since most pet insurance won't cover genetic conditions, you can't count on that to cover treatment, either.

You also have to keep your Yorkie on NuVet supplements for life (and save all the receipts as proof) or the guarantee is void.

Do they sell the NuVet? That seems like an odd requirement.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Vwitscher

I knew someone who tried to talk me into having NuVet supplements as a condition of the contract. She said the breeder sets up an account with the company and any time someone that they send to NuVet buys anything, part of it goes to the breeder. Any other breeder they talk into signing up goes under their account also so anyone 2nd breeder sends to NuVet, the company will split the $$ to the breeders. Typical pyramid setup. It supplies an additional income for the breeders that require this and an easy out for not fulfilling a contract. There are NO vitamins that will stop liver shunt or the many other possible things a puppy may be born with. I am not saying they are bad vitamins as I really have no experience with vitamins from them. I just am not going to require any product be continued as a means of living up to a contract. I say stick with the pet insurance and anything your vet says your puppy needs.

Hope this isn't too confusing.

Ahhh. I should have read all of the posts before I asked.