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kjc 07-04-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by evab (Post 3186029)
I was out walking one day with my Collie Cross Sindy...now in heaven after living to the ripe old age of 18yrs! We were walking past this house when a bloody great cat pounced on her back, dug it's claws in and was biting at her neck.....now Sindy was used to our own cat, so never had any cat hang ups....my poor baby screamed and yelped and span round trying to get the cat off, but I couldn't get this cat off her, fortunately someone came to our rescue with a hose pipe and cold water! we all got wet, Sindy and I were sooo shuck up! The cat ran off unscathed.......non the less to say, we didn't go walkin past that cats house ever again!:aimeeyork

Oh my! I've never heard of this happening before. Are you sure the cat didn't have Rabies?

evab 07-04-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kjc (Post 3186310)
Oh my! I've never heard of this happening before. Are you sure the cat didn't have Rabies?


The cat thought it was a guard Dog, I spoke to the owner and she said that the cat was very protective of it's terratory, I guess we just got too close to her side of the path LOL:aimeeyork

kjc 07-04-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by evab (Post 3186358)
The cat thought it was a guard Dog, I spoke to the owner and she said that the cat was very protective of it's terratory, I guess we just got too close to her side of the path LOL:aimeeyork

Thank God the cat didn't jump you!

katienme2002 07-04-2010 04:28 PM

Oh gosh:confused: Here we go with the pit bull arguement again. I will say this, I owned a pit bull in the past, and he was the sweetest thing you have ever seen! I do believe in ignorant owners, because the world is FULL of them, and thats not just for the pit bull breed, thats all breeds. I love all dogs, and especially my Roxie, but smaller dogs are wayyyy nastier than larger ones. Yes, they can do more damage, but when the victim is a child either could be terrible. I say the pit bull gets such a terrible rap and its just not fair. To say you would want to eliminate the whole breed is harsh, the best thing you can do is just not own one. Now that being said, I wouldnt want Roxie around ANY larger dog, pit bull or not, just because she can be mean as hell..lol..and Im sure no big dog would tolerate that..Oh well done with my rant..;)

XxYorkieGirlxX 08-14-2011 01:54 AM

kids that get killed its not always by a pitbull could be a mix breed,also parents need to start being better parents im a nurse and i ve seen alot of things,,, parents that let there kids run around by themselfs!!!!

teeneythebetta 09-30-2012 02:24 AM

They can get along well, if your pitty is true and goes against stereotypes :3

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gracielove 09-30-2012 01:55 PM

I have mentioned on here before that I have a family member that has 2 "Pit Bulls" and has raised them around young children without any problems. I would not, however, let Gracie play with the two of them together. It's not that they are mean. It's just that they get very energetic when playing outside. The smaller female I would have no issue with letting Gracie play with but the 2 Pits together are just way to much for her to handle. If she got caught under their feet when they are playing around it could be a disaster.
There are so many people who are breeding Pits to have aggressive personalities that a person needs to be very careful where they get this breed from. The original breed of American Stafford Terrier is a wonderful breed but in the hands of people who use very poor standards for breeding stock the breed has become known as being very aggressive. Not all are like that. I would say the minority are bad but it only takes a few to ruin the reputation of a wonderful breed.

Belle Noir 10-05-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Disney (Post 3184931)
I know this old thread, but there a point I wanted to bring up...

Any time any person/animal is attacked by a bull breed dog people say it pitbull. This common misconception. Lots of people don't know the difference between staffy, amstaff and pitbull, so pitbull can get the blame lots when they haven't done anything.

Also, pitbull are very very overbred and mixed. Again, few people can tell what a 'real' pitbull look like. A properly bred pittie is most likely not responsiblr most of pitbull attack we hear.

Just something I feel important to add to conversation. :)

Yesterday I was attacked by a rottie lab cross. I know she was a rottie lab crossed, she looked like an all black rottie, but was lab sized, with a lab type body and a lab coat..

This dog was hanging outside of my oldests' school, and went after me as I went in the door. I am an experienced dog person, I'd seen the dog, I could see the dog was anxious/nervous, and the only thing I did wrong was get too close to the dog while going to the door.

Because I am an experienced dog person, I was NOT bit. I went towards the dog, getting big and loud at her, again, because I had read her as anxious/nervous. Had I screeched and flailed about or tried to run away, I WOULD have gotten bit.

I mention this, because if (WHEN) this dog bites someone, it WILL be reported as a pit bull attack. I am not a pit bull apologist. This is my breed and I know them well. However, I have only ever had one dog that I can say was truly dangerous. Imagine a pit bull raised and treated like some people raise and treat toy dogs. This dog was nasty, snappy, belligerent, and dangerous. I say this as the person that BRED him. But he wasn't bred like that, his whole line (which I bred) was selected for temperament. This puppy tested to be a sweet gentle dog with low dominance. I made the mistake of pairing him with the wrong owner, and proceeded to watch through the years as she ruined my dog, and gave a lot of people reason to believe the stereotype though he never managed to actually bite anyone.

This was NOT an inexperienced owner, and in fact was a friend and one time business partner of mine. To this day I do not know why she raised him that way and allowed him to be that way. The only reason I can come up with is he was her first PUPPY, and all of her other dogs she'd gotten as adults. Well trained adults when speaking of the ones she got from me.

No other dog in that line was dangerous, scary, and a mauling waiting to happen. I truly believe this was a case of nature vrs nurture, and not OMG pit bull/dangerous dog. I truly believe that the results would have been the same for any breed of dog, had the situation been with another breed.

When toy dog are snarly and snappy when someone comes too close to their owner, it's cute. When a 40 lb dog does it, especially when the dog looks like a bully breed, it's NOT cute.

Many people cannot tell the difference between the different bully breeds. Some people say they can tell the difference between AmStaff and APBT, but don't forget, they're the same breed with the UKC, and there are dual titled champion AST/ABPT. There was an ABPT by the name of Tiny Tim. Gr Ch weight pull dog extraordinaire. He weighs 22 lbs and looks like a staffy bull. He pulls for the most weight pulled by body pound, but the giant pits, the ones that go for the most weight pulled look very much like Cane Corsos.

I will say again, while I believe that pure bred pit bull types no matter what the breed (APBT, AST, SB) are wonderful dogs and excellent family pets, they are NOT for everyone. They ARE a bully breed, AND they are ALSO a TERRIER breed. That makes them twice as stubborn. They need a firm hand and people that will DO things with their dogs. Yes, they can be couch potatoes, but they want to DO things, and too many people get these dogs and the dogs hang around the house with no direction, which with any dog is a recipe for disaster.

Add to that a conversation I had with my little brother last night when going over the dog attack. Pit bulls are powerful breeds. You get the strength of a Rottie in a dog half the size. So this is a breed that has all the stopping power of a rottie, but is cheaper to buy (50 bucks on the right drug corner), easier to house, (much smaller than a rottie), eats less, poops less, so easier to clean after, generally healthier (very few of the many pit bull people I know have ever had cancer, even fewer have had hip problems, for example), yet still has the stopping power and fear factor of the rottie. This is why, unfortunately, the pit type dogs are ideal for not just the street thug that wants to show everyone how bad he is, but also for the average city dweller who wants some kind of protection, though most of the pit bulls I know are like the guy pretending to be a dog in the all state mayhem commercials, and will leave WITH anyone that breaks into their home. In this case, it's the reputation of the breed that the owners are relying on.

That brings me back to my first point. When a mid sized dog with a short coat and blocky head bites someone, that bite will be reported as a pit bull attack. Even if in the story you see the attacking dog identified as another breed, the HEADLINES will say PIT BULL ATTACK!!

This is because there IS a media bias towards pit bull attacks. Pit bull attacks are sexy, they sell papers, they garner higher ratings. Even when a retraction is made in a paper, it's buried all the way in the back. Even when the dog is NOT a pit bull, and doesn't LOOK like a pit bull, it's called a pit bull attack.

Dog Attacks Exaggerated, Particularly When It Comes to Pit Bulls

Dog In Attack Misidentified As A Pit Bull

Pit bull attacks - The Friendly PitbullThe Friendly Pitbull

Punish the Deed, not the Breed!
I like this, because it explains what pit people mean about the media bias

Punish the Deed, not the Breed!
Here is a list of news stories in which the attacking dog was misidentified as a pit bull.

Now, will I have a pit bull around my yorkies? You bet I will. BUT it will be one raised and trained by ME, because then I know how safe the dog is. I think though, people should realize it's not the size of the dog, but the size of the fight in the dog. Did anyone see the Cesar Millan episode where they had Diablo/Sammy Davis the chihuahua that completely OWNED the rescue he lived in.. The PIT BULL rescue. All the pits in that recuse walked very carefully around that chihuahua, because he was the boss.

My best friend.. His pit bulls will NEVER be allowed around my yorkies. I don't trust them to not eat my babies. They're the sweetest dogs in the world when it comes to people, but they're highly dog aggressive, and it's not a chance I would risk.

Because we tend to baby little dogs more, we give them a higher position of authority in our homes. We let them get away with things that we would discipline a larger dog for. The dogs translate that into meaning the little dog ranks higher, and that's how little dogs end up ruling big dogs. This is especially true when a larger breed is brought into the house as a puppy.

All in all, I feel that little dogs should be socialized with big dogs, and big dogs especially need to be socialized with little dogs. One of Pixies best friends is a Malamute. Shadow is super gentle with her and was raised by a French Bulldog, so she's toy dog trained, lol. Her other best friend is Nina, another yorkie just a smidge bigger than Pixie. Nina and Pixie are little terrors to each other, and smash into each other with abandon. Pixie beats up Shadow, Shadow is super careful to not step on Pixie, to not roll over on her even when they're rolling around on the ground making ahhhhhhhrrrrrr noises, Shadow never closes her mouth and always lets Pixie win. Nina attacks Shadow, because Nina wasn't socialized with big dogs. Shadow runs away from Nina. Nina attacks all big dogs, not just Shadow, but one day she may attack a big dog that wasn't raised with a small dog. If that big dog retaliates, whose fault is it?

Yes, I know. I just came back and here I am with my walls o' text, lol. I'll try to be more brief when possible, I promise, lol.


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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 4026096)
The original breed of American Stafford Terrier is a wonderful breed

I just have to make this one small correction.
The original breed is the American Pit Bull Terrier. When the AKC was formed, the APBT was not invited to join. The UKC was founded by Chauncey Bennett in 1898. The first breed recognized by the UKC was the APBT. It was the APBT breeder John Colby among others worked with the AKC on recognition, and in fact his dog Colby's Primo helped form the bases for the Am Staff standard.

When the breed was recognized by the AKC, the Bull Terrier people claimed people could confuse their breed with the APBT, which is why the name Staffordshire Terrier was used, later changed to American Staffordshire Terrier when the Staffordshire Bull Terrier gained recognition.

The AKC does not accept a breed out of the blue. They have to have a pedigree. They had to have a parent club. All Am Staffs trace down to APBTs and to UKC registered American Pit Bull Terriers.

Petey from the little Rascals was one of the first registered Am Staffs.. But before Petey was an Am Staff, he was an APBT.

bailie 10-06-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 2791984)
here's morgan when she was 4 months old and her best friend jinx the 80lb pit bull

thats an amazing picture,, beautiful dogs:d

Teresa Ford 10-07-2012 08:43 AM

All dogs that play / live together need supervision. When accidents happen between large dogs and small dogs the injuries tend to be more serious.

yorkietalkjilly 10-07-2012 09:14 AM

Just like a lot of slick retriever-looking dogs are called "Labs" and fuzzy, grey/black prick-eared big wolfish-appearing dogs are called "Huskies" or if tan, "GSD's" and little slick dogs with medium to long leg and prick ears called "Rat terriers". A lot of dog breeds are misinterpreted by people in describing them.

dawn27 10-07-2012 09:17 AM

Regardless of what Pits were breed to do.... each and every individual animal is trained differently by the families who own them. Each of them has the opportunity to become something that totally goes against the normal perception of the American Pit Bull stereotype.

Unless you know the animal and the people who raised them, dont allow your child or animals to go near them, its that simple!

yorkietalkjilly 10-07-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 4029812)
Regardless of what Pits were breed to do.... each and every individual animal is trained differently by the families who own them. Each of them has the opportunity to become something that totally goes against the normal perception of the American Pit Bull stereotype.

Unless you know the animal and the people who raised them, dont allow your child or animals to go near them, its that simple!

Agreed. Any big animal can be aggressive. It's usually just the bully-type breeds that attack & sustain the attack long enough to kill it seems.

Princes mom 10-07-2012 06:54 PM

:eek:O:eek:M:eek:G:eek:!!!

gracielove 10-08-2012 04:40 AM

Many of the people who are breeding "Pits" and AST's are breeding them to have aggressive personalities. Just as we see people breeding defects into the Yorkshire Terrier the same is happening with the Pit Bull. Most pups that the average American would come in contact with are dogs that have been bred by people who have no idea about genetics or how to breed a purebred dog properly. Even when they are raised to be a nice friendly dog their unstable genetic background could cause problems in an unexpected situation. It makes me very nervous to see people practically being dragged down the road by one of these dogs on a leash. They are very strong and if the owner is not someone who knows how to train a dog properly (most) they can be a big problem. Check your local shelter and you will see many who will be put down because of personality issues or just the fact they were never trained properly.


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