Earned Respect!

[mjharpst]

What a well said post! You and many others have continued to gain my respect, I am in awe of all the great advice that YT does have and it is because of people like you!

[AbbysMom08]

GREAT POST, Debra!!!!!!!
I am not now nor have I ever been a breeder. Am very grateful for the wonderful breeders out there.
I have only had 3 yorkies in the past 30 years and have been very blessed to have healthy little girls that lived long lives.
I have learned so very much about this breed from this site and am still learning even after owning them for what I think is a long time.
I am so glad I found this site. I really do appreciate the advise and everything the senior yorkie talkers have to offer. I look forward to reading their post. Someday I hope to be one of the senior yorkie talkers as you all seem to have such a strong bond.
RESPECT! You have mine!
Once again, thank you all for your support, caring and knowledge.

[KimberlySRN]

Very well put.

[charly]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I think most new members hold back a little during their first few months to get the lay of the land and learn a little about members and general forum personality. But......

Several times in the last couple of months a very new member (usually onboard for 2-3 weeks) has made disparaging remarks against seasoned forum members who have reputations for unselfishly sharing their knowledge and experience. These remarks are often made out of hand, without any evident research into the valuable contributions the attacked member may have made. There are members that have EARNED OUR RESPECT and deserve better treatment than they are getting by a few new and outspoken members.

It is usually a good idea when you join a forum to take a couple of months to really get the feel for its members before unloading a birage of insults. Don't disagree with one post they make and then attack their entire personality, breeding philosphy or contribution to the forum. Sometimes I see them even twist the respected breeders comments and then argue with something that was never said in the first place, leaving the rest of us to shake our heads or worse.....to start up a nasty debate where there was really no disagreement in the first place.

If you feel like attacking a breeder, research the Breeder Talk Forum and KNOW what you are talking about before you speak out of the wrong end! You might find out they are responsible, caring and educate the forum in many ways and then you might just decide not to attack them.

If you feel like attacking a pet owner, take a minute to look through their past posts to get a feel for what they say and how they treat others. You may be surprised to find they are very thoughtful and caring and then you might just decide not to attack them.

It is fine to debate, to disagree and to offer alternative opinions. That is one of the best parts of the forums -- getting different perspectives/sides of an issue. But when you have to resort to personal insults to disagree, then it is obvious you have no contribution of your own.

People should not think that a couple of recent volunteer activities somehow elevates them into such a lofty position that they can look down on a breeder that has made a lifetime commitment to the breed, contributing YEARS of valuable information, education, and responsible breeding practices to better the breed and help educate both Yorkie owners and new breeders alike. No one should make assumptions about another member before they get to know them! When someone has to start tooting their own horn, to try to make a point, it belittles their input, IMO.

We have the absolute honor of several experienced and devout Yorkie breeders sharing their wealth of knowledge with us here on YT. They deserve our respect and courtesy! If we do not stop abusing the priviledge of their presence here, we could very well lose it!

All I am asking is a little bit of restraint for those new to the forum. Take time to get to know the members, learn the contributions of others, and don't be so quick to draw conclusions that may well be unfounded and make you look the fool. If you disagree with a subject, address the subject only. Do not make character assasinations just because you think differently. Feel free to take on an issue, but stick to the issue and not personal insults or name calling. Don't try to twist what someone says just so you can make a magnanimous statement.

If you think it is a bad idea, say it is a bad idea, not a bad member. Remember that when a seasoned breeder offers another side of an issue, it just might be a good idea to LISTEN! We have all seen how one-way organizations and media can slant an issue and make isolated incidents appear to be the norm. Keep your minds open! None of us are perfect and I have made mistakes in being too quick to answer too. These reminders are good for all of us to think about.

Hopefully I have made it clear that in no way am I suggesting that you can't argue with an experienced, knowlegeable breeder. All I am saying, is keep it professional without the insults and KNOW what you are talking about before you make obvious wrong conclusions. Sticking your foot in your mouth right off the bat may take a long time to overcome when it comes to the rest of the forum respecting you! Always read more than you type. If we close our minds we miss a lot of learning opportunities. Speak your mind, but mind your speech!

Very well stated

[bfforever]

I am very grateful I found this site. The people here are generous with the time they spend in answering questions, offering support, and sharing their knowledge. It is a wonderful community of people who love their doggies as much as I do. I lurked for a long time to see if it was for real--meaning, that I was amazed at the kindness of the members. I love YorkieTalk!

[EverythingMiley]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Debra,

Once again you amaze me with your eloquence and growth.......How wonderfully worded, a practice we should all follow in our everyday lives......

Mary

I wanted to let you know I"m sorry for what I said to you the other day. I know I was outof line. I got mad and took it out in a childish way. I hope you can forgive me. I slammed on you in public so I wanted to be woman enough to apologize in public..

[diane boden]

Well said and well put. I have only been on this site for a short time and I too am learning so much about a breed I have owned for more than 20years. I cant believe some of the comments made by some people against others by newbies, some seam hell bent on just causing trouble.[ Despretly wanted to comment on one post I spotted yesterday but it had been closed]. Surely people can say something without making unfounded direct attacks on individuals, aspecially when they have nothing to back it up than a wounded pride because some-body questioned their opinion.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by EverythingMiley

I wanted to let you know I"m sorry for what I said to you the other day. I know I was outof line. I got mad and took it out in a childish way. I hope you can forgive me. I slammed on you in public so I wanted to be woman enough to apologize in public..

What a great attitude, I've read other forums where it seems like you just have to be so tough to hold your own, but YT is pretty laid back most of the time, and after a while you learn people will listen even if you don't shout.

[yorkie mad]

got to jump on the bandwagon here , well said Debra

[Princessangela3]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

What a great attitude, I've read other forums where it seems like you just have to be so tough to hold your own, but YT is pretty laid back most of the time, and after a while you learn people will listen even if you don't shout.

That was VERY well said!

[luvfla]

I can put my dumb foot in my mouth just like the next guy so I always put on my smiley face when I'm on here.
OK I came on in a bad mood once & got my hand slapped ok so it was a really bad mood & admin did the slappin' BUT...that's all it took. I am reformed!

PEACE!

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by luvfla

I can put my dumb foot in my mouth just like the next guy so I always put on my smiley face when I'm on here.
OK I came on in a bad mood once & got my hand slapped ok so it was a really bad mood & admin did the slappin' BUT...that's all it took. I am reformed!

PEACE!

You always make me

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by EverythingMiley

I wanted to let you know I"m sorry for what I said to you the other day. I know I was outof line. I got mad and took it out in a childish way. I hope you can forgive me. I slammed on you in public so I wanted to be woman enough to apologize in public..

That was really sweet of you to apologize. I dont know if you know this but Mardelin just recently assisted someone with a Yorkie rescue from a kill shelter in California and she made sure that baby was groomed,I believe it was on a weekend. BRAVO To you Mary! Debra raised 5 pups from birth on her own when their mom died. And they all survided. BRAVO BRAVO Debra, We have some very good members on YT.

[EverythingMiley]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

That was really sweet of you to apologize. I dont know if you know this but Mardelin just recently assisted someone with a Yorkie rescue from a kill shelter in California and she made sure that baby was groomed,I believe it was on a weekend. BRAVO To you Mary! Debra raised 5 pups from birth on her own when their mom died. And they all survided. BRAVO BRAVO Debra, We have some very good members on YT.

I was told today all she had done..makes me feel like a real piece of crap..I wish I could take it back..this is really bothering me..

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by EverythingMiley

I was told today all she had done..makes me feel like a real piece of crap..I wish I could take it back..this is really bothering me..

Please dont feel bad.