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what a neat post that was exactly what i was looking for!! thanks a bunch! |
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Have you ever worked rescue? Have you ever donated your time at the pound? Have you ever walked into the room of dead animals piled up? Also I do blame the breeders because they place them in wrong homes and also they refuse to take them back. I have said this before on this website that I believe all puppie should have a warranty like the car companies. I can tell you if every breeder had to take back their dogs based on health issues or any issue then you would see the numbers drop radically. I also believe if breeders had to pay for the pounds, animal control and humane society budgets you would also see the numbers drop radically. Why should the breeders make $$$ and not bear any of the costs of what they have done? P.S. Responsible breeders do take their pups back but obviously when you put down 4 million animals a year we do not have that many responsible breeders. |
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She don't know me very well so she~~Tweety Bird |
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like I said - your thread has turned into a learning thread for others. That's a good thing ! |
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the last thing i ever wanted to do on YT today was start up another one of those stupid argument threads that leads to anger and frustration and people getting banned for no reason. look what's happened now :cry::cry: i'm literally about to cry over this people....thanks a lot!! it's all in the name of learning something that you have yet again hurt someone and made them feel like crap by blowing something way way out of proportion |
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No one is really wanting to hurt your feelings, but if things are left unsaid, then we aren't teaching you or others.....New members would have come on and read this post and have misconceptions. |
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sometimes people that have watched me on here and know my whole story with Sadie automatically assume i support a puppy mill or that i don't care about the dogs, but the thing is, the first place we searched was rescue, we didn't find anything close by and i don't agree with shipping animals. in the future i would like to rescue dogs and foster them, i can't in a rented house right now with no fenced in yard or we'd have more. and my first dog i wanted it to be a special bond and i wanted to raise her from the start the way i want her to be rather than take on something that might have bad habits i'd have to break. i will NEVER EVER regret getting Sadie and I will not ever let anyone tell me that i got her from a mill because i know that i did not, say whatever you want, but the breeder was not a mill and she came from a good place that still checks on her and cares about her well being. I am glad i got her, happy with how she is turning out, and i'm learning a lot about how to care for her and love her lots. i do have a heart people, i love dogs as much as the next person, but i also support good hearted people and i support people who want a nice pet and people who provide a healthy and nice pet to someone. |
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The bottom line is only YOU will decide what is best for you. Try not to get angry when others post things you don't want to hear....They wouldn't bother if they didn't care. |
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Take your pick! There is every imaginable age, size, weight, location that you could possibly ask for and they are the lucky ones to have made it to the shelters/rescues. There are hundreds PTS within hours of being taken into shelters. Let me remind you that ALL of mine are either rehomes/rescues/shelter/foster pups. Here are another 197 members who also have yorkies from shelters and rescues. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ed-yorkie.html. Once again you are not opening your mind to that is being offered to you. |
Quote: see my other post!! yes i did look, and i found what you found, a bunch of older dogs, mostly male, weird colors, health issues, bad habits to retrain, and not close enough to me. i'm not trying to sound mean or anything, but i really did want my first puppy to be a puppy, and to have been influence by me personally and not some other owner. i didn't want to deal with a history of trauma or health issues and i knew i wanted a female that i could name myself not an adult i'd have to rename. i got exactly what i wanted and regret nothing about it. |
Rachel -- You asked why dogs that meet the standard cannot just be registered as AKC? I would like to answer that. You can even take a mixed breeding and get some puppies that look like pure-bred dogs. They may even mature into dogs that meet the standard. But their DNA still contains parts from both of its parents! Some of the registries will take a picture of that dog and register it. Now, an unsuspecting newbie to breeding that just wants to breed for warm fuzzy puppies, breeds that dog with another "purebred" -- say that "purebred" was the product of a similar mating. Suddenly the puppies just do not look right. Some may be really off but some may look similar to a purebred pup. More unsuspecting customers buy these puppies and they start to mature looking NOTHING like the standard, nothing like the customer had in mind......Now, maybe they needed a small dog for the space they had, maybe they had another small dog that needed a like playmate, maybe they had a lease that only allowed small dogs and suddenly they had a 15 pounder! (I use this only as an example, it could be turned around for someone wanting a large dog and it winding up being too tiny too). The same sort of breeder that does this usually does not care about temperment either, so these puppies may wind up being aggressive, furtive, not easily trained or socialized. Now multiply this by all of the people breeding like this. How long do you suppose we could keep a yorkie looking like a yorkie? How long do you think we could keep all of the wonderful characteristics that were painstakingly bred into the Yorkie over many, many years? When you speak of breeding, you have to look beyond how it affected the one puppy you are looking at. How is it affecting the future of the breed? Also keep in mind that many genetic problems do not surface for a year, two or longer. Just because someone is fortunate to bring home a healthy puppy at a few weeks of age, does not mean they will not find problems over the long haul. You also said that the puppies in pounds and shelters are not purebreds. I think many have told you that is not true. Many of the purebreds are picked up by their breed Rescue organizations before you might see them in the pound. There are several Yorkie Rescues represented by member here on YT. They can tell you that there are never enough to take care of all of the Yorkies turned in for one reason or another. Many of the Yorkie mixes are the result of exactly what you were asking before. Why not register all those that look like Yorkies as AKC -- because many will have puppies looking like those mixes you see in the pound. Then you go on to say it is dog owners not dog breeders fault for the dogs in pounds and shelters. Ask how many of those dogs are there because they did not turn out the way they were advertised. Supposed "Purebred" puppies with dubious registries not looking like they should, having temperment problems, health problems, genetic features the owners did not want. Should the breeders not share in that blame? I think so -- a customer has the right to believe their Yorkie will grow up to look like a Yorkie and be healthy. Not all AKC bred dogs will be perfect either and some of them may find their way to a rescue. The registry is only one aspect of what to look for when researching for a well-bred pet. But at least AKC provides for rules, regulations, inspections, follow up and not only that -- a portion of your money goes for public information, animal rights lobbying, etc.... BTW you also said: "i'm sure with AKC the kennel chooses the full length name bases on the lineage of the dog." and that is not true -- AKC allows the new owner to pick the name of the puppy as well. It is tradition to include the kennel's name but not required. Maybe it would be a good itdea to have an open mind more often than being so "sure" of things you are new to. |
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