This is what the AKC has to say:

What can a breeder do to properly socialize each pup? The starting point is for the litter to be raised within a home environment with frequent human contact, rather than secluded in the yard or a kennel. This is the first step in ensuring that the pups will be prepared for life in a household, with all the sounds, smells, and hustle-and-bustle that this entails.

Some breeders will move a litter from room to room on progressive weeks, to change the scene and familiarize the pups with such varied sounds as those of the dishwasher, television, and washer-dryer. Others like to situate the puppy pen near the home’s center of activity, so the pups are exposed to comings and goings and hear a variety of human voices.

American Kennel Club - AKC eNewsletter

While common sense tells you how many dogs you can care for, I have a problem with government dictating what I can do in my home, as long as my dogs are well cared for. But, maybe laws should be put place as to how many litters you can have , predicated on the number of pups, kind of like China telling how many children you can have.

now here is a person that sounds like they know what they are talking about to me :) i know nothing about breeding dogs, and i don't care to, but it sounds like this person has done their research and :thumbup::thumbup: for them!!

Debra,

You can look at it anyway you want to. But I am now going to add you and many more members here on my ignore list so I won't have to read anything you respond to.

The problem is that many people do not care for their pups properly. I totally agree with you about the government and numbers.
What bugs me is that when you have proof something is awry in a home and report it, nothing gets done!
I know of a hoarder who has been reported many times to no avail. The authorities all want what they call "first hand evidence". Because of the laws, they cannot go and look. Not sure what they mean by first hand evidence as much was given....I think they are just afraid to do anything because they are not backed by laws that protect animals.
The SPCA went there, but AFTER making an appointment to see the home (DUH)..

Ok, now it makes more sense. Thanks for that...and for your wisdom that has come with taking the time to learn:)

good information here!!:thumbup::thumbup:

I went to bed last night and woke up to, I don't know, maybe 5 more pages...yikes! Anyway, can't figure out why you would deter someone from giving valuable information away. You (or Rachel for that matter) can't dictate to Nancy what you would and would not like to read. There are many people interested in the subject of puppy mills and how it relates to registries. I haven't caught up with everything on this thread and I'm not sure I'm going to but I am sure I'm not the only one interested in the topic. It didn't come out of left field...Rachel included the registry in her original post...

YTCA Breeders are also bound by a Code of Ethics and Conduct that states pretty much the same thing.....

We all know that the system is broke.....and any time a law is put into place that they think will stop the Miller, Pet Stores, Wholesales Market and BYBers, the only thing it does is restrict the Reputable Breeder......They haven't realized that the aforementioned people have the finacial resoures to get around these laws....and all the law does is boost up the euthinization numbers.

I'm looking for a article that explains the Canadian System and it works......When and if I find it in my e-mails....I'll share. The sad thing is that it has been shared with local governments in the states....and they aren't buying it.

I truly believe that this thread has run it's course and stirred enough emotion's, but once long time standing members who want nothing more but to help and educate are being disrespected It's time to close the thread!
JMO

Since many of the respected members have been put onto someone ignore list we can no longer be disrespected for our informative posts. :p

FYI~there are 2 ways that a post can be closed. The OPer needs to PM administration with their request or if it has been decided that adm needs to step in and close it.

i don't think anyone has disrespected the older members! everyone has a right to say what they want to say and the same way that the older members have a right to share their knowledge and opinions, the newbie members have a right to say that they don't agree with the approach taken. it's all part of free speech. i'm not complaining anymore and i explained why i was upset to begin with, so i don't know why we are still having the battle of who can say what....

SAY WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY, SAY WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY!!! ;):note2::note:

only sing the line 36 times total and you have a John Mayer song! ;)



And i want to add that without SOME of the comments made my older posters, i woudn't have learned as much as i have either, there were plenty of great pieces of advice and information in this thread, i don't think it needs closing because it didn't get nearly as heated as others on this forum have in the past....thanks for the info guys!

Morning Rachel -- I might not have been as clear as I could have in my post. I was making two separate points. I started off with saying "I personally would not want to have more dogs than I could have in my home." This was not part of either of the proposed pieces of legislature I listed. This is just me with my dogs. I don't have large outdoor dogs, so I prefer to keep mine in my home where they can always be socialized and part of the family. I would feel entirely different with St. Bernards I am sure!

I went on to say, "But I know there are many outdoor kennel set ups that are humane and sanitary, where they let the dogs out for daily exercise and personal time with people. " and then listed the laws in the works that go along these lines.

I agree wholeheartedly, that they could not make a law saying all dogs had to be kept in the home. Some dogs would be abused by that treatment and need their outdoor space. Hope that clears up my previous post for you and -- look we are agreeing on topic again. ;)

If you have time, read the bills I mentioned and see if you could support them. If so, I have a post in the AnimalPrtection and Welfare forum that tells more how to help get them passed.

Yup we did agree!! :) i hope you aren't upset with me because i haven't been upset with any of your posts that i can think of so from my end we're still good with each other

i will have a look at those if i can find them.