Michael Vick

[carolekv]

Yes, I agree with the last post. I do believe in forgiveness and I do believe in second chances to prove yourself redeemed of a big huge cruelty to animals error, but I also believe that part of accepting that forgiveness is stepping up to the plate (wrong sport) and accepting the consequences of what you've done. The consequences should be that he should spend the rest of his life doing penance towards animals and the children that looked up to him. My son had a Christmas ornament of Vick and when this news came out years ago, he wanted to break it. I told him to keep it and it's funny, I went to his room about 3 weeks later and the ornament is in a little jail he made out of a basket. It also no longer goes on our tree. He has lots of other football ornaments, but Vick is missing and doing penance. Yes let's forgive him and give him a chance to make it up, but playing football is not how he gets back to goodness.

[shirlblack]

This sickens me but I'm not shocked...bottom line for it all is greed. The only thing that he's sorry for it that he got caught!!!

[Peters]

yeah i just dont get it why is it fair he can just assume a normal life again and what of the animals he tortured and that suffered they will never have a nnormal life again seeem right? not to me and to pay him millions on top of it all nope sickens me i dont get it! ! i like pit bulls! no matter what peoples opinions may be of them i even speak up about it and have argued many a person for and about them including the husband even gone so far as to take home one that was about to be euthanized at two days old and bottle fed it found it a home someone who still has her today shes a great dog!!!!!! anyways!! shame on him and the eagles booo hisss!! im not really into sports but ughhh!
heres my pit baby i took home i wanted to keep her!!

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i think i posted her story here i cried when i gave her away!!

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[jrsygal37]

[QUOTE=red98vett;2755840]

My son is big into sports and he seems to think the man is genuinly sorry for what he did. He (Vick even made some humble comment like "I can't believe I'm getting a second chance when my dogs never had one"....could be he's lying or it could be he really is sorry for what he did....he really just may not have known any better./QUOTE]

I don't think it was a humble comment. It was a good bull crapper saying what he knows everyone wanted to hear. He's not sorry. He's sorry he got caught and he knows he's on a probationary period so he's saying and doing all the right things so he can be completely reinstated. And, his agents are probably feeding the words to him. I hope he does realize he did wrong but if this were even remotely true then he'd go out of his way to volunteer to work with abused dogs, rescues, shelters and he'd donate some of the loot he'll be making to educate people on cruely of animals. I don't buy any of it. And personally hope that there are some NFL players who are real animal lovers and beat the piss out of him when he gets out on the field. Elaine

[gypsyqueen]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I was kidding there -

I know alot of people won't agree with what I said. I was tempted to write the NFL too and then my son and I talked (he used to write for ESPN sports website) and told me some of the things Vick has been quoted saying.

I tend to believe (Vick) is sorry and had no idea how terrible dog fighting really is till he had his butt handed to jail on a platter...

the bigger picture is..... he just could be the new voice against dog fighting - he sure attracts attention now right ?

I think its just what was there when he was growing up and facing the shame he has I hope he will know better now and set an excample

[Princes mom]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I was kidding there -

I know alot of people won't agree with what I said. I was tempted to write the NFL too and then my son and I talked (he used to write for ESPN sports website) and told me some of the things Vick has been quoted saying.

I tend to believe (Vick) is sorry and had no idea how terrible dog fighting really is till he had his butt handed to jail on a platter...

the bigger picture is..... he just could be the new voice against dog fighting - he sure attracts attention now right ?

Vick is only sorry he got caught!!! It takes a soul-less person to do something like that.

[Sookie]

I will try to take pics of some of the signs I have seen in peoples' yards and post them. We Eagles fans are quite frenzied right now at the thought of MV playing for the Eagles. I think people deserve another chance, but it takes a certain kind of person to condone and take part in animal fighting where the poor things DIE!! I don't think he is remorseful - he just got caught. I don't want him on my team!!

[Breeze]

There are thousands of more worthy men and I'm sure just as talented as Vick that deserve a spot on the NFL. I think it's sick that the Eagles would even consider him.

[Princes mom]

The opposing team fans should wear pit bull masks!

[Krystee]

Sorry if I repeat anything that someone has already said... I got through the first page and had to comment. There aren't many things that make my blood boil but Michael Vick and Animal Cruelty are 2 of those things. My problem is that the man isn't just going back to a "job"... he is going back to a career making millions and I find that disgusting. His old team or a new team could hire him as a cleaning person to clean the locker rooms. I'm sure there are plenty of things he could do to make a normal living and I believe he should be able to keep what he earned up until that point.

I also find it disgusting that he is going to be speaking to the youth about dog fighting... blah, blah, blah... I think in order to be a mentor, you have to have gone through something horrible.. like... I got into drugs and almost died then I went to jail for 30 years and I lost everything I had. That's going to make someone think twice about doing drugs. What is Vick going to say?? I got caught dog fighting and then I spent a little time in jail but I went right back to playing football and making millions. oh, that's a scary story right there.

Puhlease, this man is a monster and as I said before, he isn't sorry for hurting those innocent dogs... he's sorry for getting caught. He should be the towel boy NOT the quarterback.

[Nancy1999]

I'm glad Michael Vick's position has allowed the news of dog fighting to become so well known. I don't think most of us have any idea how big of a sport it is. Laws in this country are being made and rejected because of these dog-fighting enthusiasts. Many communities can't pass neutering laws, mandatory microchip, or stray laws because the dog-fighting lobby is so large and powerful, and they send out much propaganda regarding these bills, and others. Dog fighting enthusiasts, do not want their dogs neutered, and they do not want their dogs microchipped; if a bloody mutilated animal, is linked back to them, they will be forced to answer too many questions. Many of their dogs are found as strays for this reason, and so they are fighting laws that say a stay must be neutered after being found three times, and they have convinced good breeders, that this is wrong, and so they have joined them in fighting these laws. I think it's time people understand how powerful these "sporting dog" organizations are and become aware of any legislation that they are against. They are only trying to serve their interests, not the typical breeders. Remember a neutered dog, is not a fighting dog. I hope Vick can turn this around, and help with the situation, he has been given a real opportunity to help these dogs, and let the people know what's really going on behind closed doors.

I also think it's important to teach children that athletes and other famous people should not be their role models on how to live their lives, unless the athlete or famous person is living a life that sets a good example.

[Krystee]

Originally Posted by red98vett

Ok....don't be hatin for what I'm going to say - its just something to think about.

what he did was inhumane - totally cruel & sick ...but....step back and think about this - REAL animal abusers get a thrill from pain and torture. The kind of animal abusers that grow up to be killers and such.

Vick was running what I think 'in his mind' was a business - one for greed yes - one that is cruel and sick yes - but...I dont think he was a thrill abuser getting his rocks off by hurting animals

I think some people have a different mindset when it comes to 'fighting' various animals. They see it as sport and it's about the money ....all the way. I think Vick is one of those people.

Again - what he did was despicable and I am very against him playing football BUT - look at it this way - its a done deal. He's going to play.

MAYBE him back playing football will keep focus on all those who are STILL fighting dogs....it's going to be brought up constantly. He did go to prison for this - which is way more than lots of those people get. Never before has the dog fighting sick 'sport' been brought to peoples attention like this before.

The NFL can suck eggs too - they don't care that they have felons playing as long as they bring in fans. I know some teams wouldn't touch him .... but it just may be that jail and the hate Vick is getting from around the country just may make him re-think what he was actually doing and give him a new perspective on how special dogs really are.

My son is big into sports and he seems to think the man is genuinly sorry for what he did. He (Vick even made some humble comment like "I can't believe I'm getting a second chance when my dogs never had one"....could be he's lying or it could be he really is sorry for what he did....he really just may not have known any better.

There are kids and men out there right now thinking it's fine to fight dogs -roosters - you name it - because they don't see the suffering. They see the money. Vick just may have been those people and maybe ....he sees the light now..

ok - you can start the hatin now I just had to say that only because there really is nothing to do about it. He got hired and will play.

nice role model for kids huh ? Hope they make him talk about how wrong he was every chance he can as part of his release.


I'm stepping back now so I don't get pelted with beer bottles

How do you explain the torchering and killing of the animals who lost the fight? The ones who were hung from a tree? That's the part that sets me off. I might mostly agree with what you said if it were only in regards to the actual dog fighting.
The torchering wasn't part of the "business"... it was for the sick "thrill"

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[cataholic]

Originally Posted by red98vett

My son is big into sports and he seems to think the man is genuinly sorry for what he did. He (Vick even made some humble comment like "I can't believe I'm getting a second chance when my dogs never had one"....could be he's lying or it could be he really is sorry for what he did....he really just may not have known any better.

I believe all his remorse is fake. He is only sorry that he got caught. Nobody can really believe he is sorry can they? He just wants to play football and have animal rights people off his back. He liked fighting the dogs. He never thought it was cruel before. How can you look in a dog's eyes and hang it or electrocute it, if you are not a cruel person??? People cannot change that much.

[manina]

Originally Posted by cataholic

I believe all his remorse is fake. He is only sorry that he got caught. Nobody can really believe he is sorry can they? He just wants to play football and have animal rights people off his back. He liked fighting the dogs. He never thought it was cruel before. How can you look in a dog's eyes and hang it or electrocute it, if you are not a cruel person??? People cannot change that much.

It's up to Us as parents and Adults to let our love ones, especially our kids known and understand, This man is No Role Model, he plays football that's it. !!!! It's up to us to make sure he doesn't make any money on his name or team #. That will hurt the bottom line, belive me that will make sure they know and understand this is not going away. It's all about the bottom line, If u want to watch your team ok, but just don't buy anything from them .
They should lock up the people that think this a sport , to hang or to electrocute these innocent animals. And the people that go to see these fights on dog's and rooster's r sick and should also go to jail and get fine.
Maybe if people would stop going to see these fights, we can save some of these innocent animals. and if there r breeder , breeding animal for these clowns they should go to jail and we should throw the keys away.
This is all so sad !!! I will do my part in writting letter to every one on that list, and I pray, hope and wish no one ever lose a furbaby and have to wonder what happen to it. If someone finds them and keep them or some nut like these people get a hold of them. We will never know, we need to fight as one to change the law on this so call sport .
bark@ulater!!!!!
manina,miley,max