[carolekv]

Yes, I agree with the last post. I do believe in forgiveness and I do believe in second chances to prove yourself redeemed of a big huge cruelty to animals error, but I also believe that part of accepting that forgiveness is stepping up to the plate (wrong sport) and accepting the consequences of what you've done. The consequences should be that he should spend the rest of his life doing penance towards animals and the children that looked up to him. My son had a Christmas ornament of Vick and when this news came out years ago, he wanted to break it. I told him to keep it and it's funny, I went to his room about 3 weeks later and the ornament is in a little jail he made out of a basket. It also no longer goes on our tree. He has lots of other football ornaments, but Vick is missing and doing penance. Yes let's forgive him and give him a chance to make it up, but playing football is not how he gets back to goodness.