She's coming home by August 1st

[Gingergirlsmom]

Well you've made up your mind. I understand that you probably won't read the following, but if one person reads it and decides not to buy from a breeder who would remove the pup so young, then it's worth posting it. In many states its not even LEGAL to do what your breeder is doing. But I'm sure he knows best. After all he's kind.

What age can a puppy leave mom and littermates?


That question often comes up when someone is either looking to purchase a puppy or when someone who knows very little about dog breeding breeds their female dog. The American Kennel Club recommends that puppies stay with their moms and litter mates until they are 12 weeks old. This is to insure that the puppies learn how to act like a dog and can react to other dogs in a social manner when they are older. Puppies that are separated younger than that often have behavioral problems around other dogs.
All too often the future puppy owner is thinking not when the puppy is mentally able but more along the lines of if the puppy is weaned and on solid food. The backyard breeder is thinking more along the lines of how soon can I get rid of the pups and get some money for them.
Thankfully many states and even localities have enacted laws to prevent puppies and kittens from being given away or sold before a certain age. Often those laws prevent people from even advertising puppies for sale unless they state the date when the puppies will be available to leave their mother. Most laws state 8 or 10 weeks as the minimum age for a puppy to leave their mother but before you, as a breeder or buyer either place or buy a puppy check with your local laws and think first of the puppy’s mental health.


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[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

Well you've made up your mind. I understand that you probably won't read the following, but if one person reads it and decides not to buy from a breeder who would remove the pup so young, then it's worth posting it. In many states its not even LEGAL to do what your breeder is doing. But I'm sure he knows best. After all he's kind.

What age can a puppy leave mom and littermates?


That question often comes up when someone is either looking to purchase a puppy or when someone who knows very little about dog breeding breeds their female dog. The American Kennel Club recommends that puppies stay with their moms and litter mates until they are 12 weeks old. This is to insure that the puppies learn how to act like a dog and can react to other dogs in a social manner when they are older. Puppies that are separated younger than that often have behavioral problems around other dogs.
All too often the future puppy owner is thinking not when the puppy is mentally able but more along the lines of if the puppy is weaned and on solid food. The backyard breeder is thinking more along the lines of how soon can I get rid of the pups and get some money for them.
Thankfully many states and even localities have enacted laws to prevent puppies and kittens from being given away or sold before a certain age. Often those laws prevent people from even advertising puppies for sale unless they state the date when the puppies will be available to leave their mother. Most laws state 8 or 10 weeks as the minimum age for a puppy to leave their mother but before you, as a breeder or buyer either place or buy a puppy check with your local laws and think first of the puppy’s mental health.


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Very Good Post. I hope others will listen. I cant understand how people ask for opinions and just toss them out the window. Why even ask if you already have your mind made up.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

I'll have my baby playing with my auntie's yorkie Bailey when i've had her for a few weeks, so i'm sure she'll be well socialized, and honestly from seeing the way the breeder interacts with the pups that he had with him, i don't think our girl will have any trouble in the transition at all. Once again, thanks for the comments, i'll let you know how it all goes, and first and foremost please be happy for me that i'm going to experience the joy and wonders of raising a yorkie puppy and she'll bring us happiness and love...that's the most important part anyways right???

You are too naive. My so called "breeder" who wasn't even a breeder just a LIAR! Was SO nice and great when I was around you wouldn't even believe the act she put on! But when my dog was having seizures on our floor and I was crying hystrically calling her and emailing her, who do you think was there to CARE so much about that dog? NOT HER SHE TOLD ME TO F*** OFF! Just because he "seems" so nice you don't really know, if he will let his pups go so early he is only in it for the money not caring about the pups. We would love to be happy for you but why do you ask for opinions and help and then blow it all off, don't bother asking if you were going to take a pup way too early and act the way you are.

[RachelandSadie]

Well, when I came to yorkie talk, i thought i'd find a bunch of very nice yorkie owners who could offer advice and opinions but at least respect my personal choices and my personal convictions. I thought i'd find a lot of nice, kind, and considerate people who could help me learn and grow in my ownership of this puppy. all i have found here are several very opinionated people who through their strong opinions have attacked me in every way over my own choice, i am hurt, upset, and feeling rejected by this forum for the rude and hateful comments i have recieved here. i know that you were all just trying to help and give advice from experience, but obviously you have had negative experiences and can't seem to recall that people sometimes have great experiences i mean i'd rather rescue this little baby now and take care of her on my own, than to leave her at his home where she'll be in a kennel all alone without any siblings (who are sold already) and without mom who was taken away at 6 weeks anyways...so why not take her, i feel like i can take better care of her anyways....and as for the comments that Marvin doesn't care about his dogs, he is in contact with almost everyone he's ever sold a pup to, obviously he's got great relationships with previous owners that adore him and he's constantly checking up on the puppies he's sold all over Missouri, visiting them on his trips to see his daughter....

so in my own opinion here, yes i'd rather wait until she's 10 weeks old, but he's going to sell her to someone else at 6 weeks if it's not me, so i'd rather it be me so that i know she's taken care of and doing well.

i'm going to go with my own gut, the advice from the VET, and the advice from a lot of other people who agree with me, though most of you on here don't.

Yes i am upset at most of these comments and I feel very hurt from the rude and hateful way you have approached me!!

I hope that you all enjoy your dogs, i'll enjoy mine, and we'll all go on happy as ever with our own lives.

[Gingergirlsmom]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

Is six weeks old enough time for my pup to have grown up with her litter mates and her mommy enough? We're getting her from her breeder at 6 weeks they think because she's already eating from mom's bowl.

You asked for our opinions, not our approval. I hope it all works out for you, as I've said multiple times.

[RachelandSadie]

i know that, and i appreciate your advice very much, and i'm glad that you have wished us well, but others go into attack mode too fast about how sick this makes them and how disgusted they are, which is fine, that's their opinion, but i was hoping for a little more encouragement and prayer rather than how disgusted they are that i choose to follow my gut and not their bad experience

[danyellm]

You asked for opinions and you got them.Noone attacked you in this thread.Not agreeing with someone does not constitute an attack.
We all wanted you to have the best possible chance at getting a happy ,healthy well adjusted yorkie and advised you from all of our experiences as well as what the experts reccomend.
I have had great experiences with the breeders I got my dogs from but its because they did it the right way as I am trying to do with my Yorkies ,you will not find a kennel here just a home filled with my furry family members.

[ARCHIE]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

i know that, and i appreciate your advice very much, and i'm glad that you have wished us well, but others go into attack mode too fast about how sick this makes them and how disgusted they are, which is fine, that's their opinion, but i was hoping for a little more encouragement and prayer rather than how disgusted they are that i choose to follow my gut and not their bad experience

Rachael, I don't believe YT'ers are disgusted with you but with the
breeder. You have come here for opinions, right? Well that's what your
getting. People love this breed so much that's why they get upset when
a breeder breeds for $ and not for health. Listen to what is told to you.
People are knowledgeable here, most have gone through some rough times
with their own pup and are just trying to keep you from having your
heart broke if your pup get's sick. Anyone who breeds for fun is not a
true serious breeder. It's true. Too many things can go wrong with the
female during breeing. There's nothing fun about it.
Even if your pup is healthy, I hope he is, he may end up with some
serious personality issues. I know where I'm coming from on this one.
Buddy was taken about 7weeks old from his mother and sent to a pet
store across the ocean. I bought him. he's beautiful and healthy but
I have had some serious behavior problems with him and all because
he was taken too soon from his mother. You came here unsure if it
were right or wrong and you were given an honest answer. It's wrong.
If the mother died that's another story, you do what you can to keep
the pup alive but to deliberately seperate mother and pup at 6wks
is very wrong and cruel.
Good luck because your going to need it.

[RachelandSadie]

do you honestly think ur pup had problems from leaving his mom, or could it be that the problems stem from the pet store thing? i'm not trying to challenge your knowledge here, but i'd think that the pet store living would be much more traumatizing than being given to a loving owner after the pup is weaned and ready

[ARCHIE]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

do you honestly think ur pup had problems from leaving his mom, or could it be that the problems stem from the pet store thing? i'm not trying to challenge your knowledge here, but i'd think that the pet store living would be much more traumatizing than being given to a loving owner after the pup is weaned and ready

Read up on the subject. I honestly didn't know a thing about it until
I found YT about 1yr after. No one loves their dog more than I love
Buddy. I got him at 14wks. He was in the store for only about 4wks.
Nothing in the first year could have made him get aggressive living
with me. All
he ever got was hugs and kisses. He changed over night. Believe me
he did. From what I read it all stems back to being seperated from
his mother before she could teach him manners. Sounds crazy huh but
these thing's are true. They are so true. With lot's of training and
patience we got threw it. What I went through with him I would never
have thought possible. I had two rescues in the past and never experiened
anthing like this. Believe it, because it can happen. I didn't say it will
but it can. To me, just because this pup is one you can afford is no
reason to purchase it. Save alittle longer and get one that's better
bred.
Only trying to save you heartache.

[Gingergirlsmom]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

Read up on the subject. I honestly didn't know a thing about it until
I found YT about 1yr after. No one loves their dog more than I love
Buddy. I got him at 14wks. He was in the store for only about 4wks.
Nothing in the first year could have made him get aggressive living
with me. All
he ever got was hugs and kisses. He changed over night. Believe me
he did. From what I read it all stems back to being seperated from
his mother before she could teach him manners. Sounds crazy huh but
these thing's are true. They are so true. With lot's of training and
patience we got threw it. What I went through with him I would never
have thought possible. I had two rescues in the past and never experiened
anthing like this. Believe it, because it can happen. I didn't say it will
but it can. To me, just because this pup is one you can afford is no
reason to purchase it. Save alittle longer and get one that's better
bred.
Only trying to save you heartache.

Carol, you have a way of putting things that makes sense and seems caring.

I have to say, after reading/research and my own experience, I agree that not having that extra time with mom and littermates is essential. There is research to back this up, not just "belief". As I said before, I would never give up my girl, but I will never again put $$ in the pockets of those who would do this kind of thing, especially someone who would remove the mom/littermates at such a young age. There is a reason that is illegal in many states. I know I keep repeating myself, but this is something I feel very passionate about. I don't think negatively of you, many of us have brought dogs home from the wrong kind of place. But you have an opportunity I didn't have. You have caring (yes, caring) people on YT who are honestly trying to explain why you don't want to contribute to this. I wish someone had done that for me back then. We're all just trying to save you some heartache. Again, the only one I have a real issue is is the breeder.

[RachelandSadie]

thanks again!! the more i think about the whole thing, the more i just want to save my baby and bring her home anyways, i mean if the guy is going to take the mom away from her no matter if i get her or not, i'd rather get her and at least know she's loved and taken care of, sounds crazy, but i just can't help it, i want to rescue her, and in the process of that, i've since met the guy and he doesn't seem so bad, i don't agree with him taking her mommy away that early anymore than you all do, but i can't bear to let him put Sadie out in a kennel, he's had her in the house and plays with her in the yard right now, and someone else may come along and buy her and not love her like we will, so i'm going to get my baby girl, pray for the best, and hope she does just fine...

any advice since i am getting her so young to help me make it through, besides Nutrical, i'll be getting plenty of that stuff.

Also, how do you switch a puppy from their puppy food that the breeder sends with you, to your own food? This one's not as easy as the *mix it in slowly* because i'm going to feed homemade food with minerals and nutrients in it, works great for my aunt Karrie and Bailey. but i'm wondering how to change it up from Diamond puppy food, which will be hard kibble, to soft and squishy

[RachelandSadie]

just a thought, do you think my aunt's yorkie 2 months old could help socialize my baby a little bit, i mean i know that mommy is best, but i can't really force the breeder to keep her with mommy, so if i bring her over to auntie's house to play with Bailey, do you think that might help some??

[yorkie mad]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

just a thought, do you think my aunt's yorkie 2 months old could help socialize my baby a little bit, i mean i know that mommy is best, but i can't really force the breeder to keep her with mommy, so if i bring her over to auntie's house to play with Bailey, do you think that might help some??

Yes letting your baby play with your aunties will help socialize her. as with the food you will need to change it gradually , just add a little to the other, these furbabys have very sensitive tummys.
I've read this thread through and I can see where you are coming from wanting to save this baby, think I would be the same lol
People on here do have excellent advice though so be sure to bear that in mind for the future.
Good luck with her oh and what are you going to name her?

[danyellm]

I emailed the breeders posing as a seller and they offered me a five week old female also have a second litter of 3 girls that are 3 weeks old hmmmm.