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concretegurl · 03-24-2011, 12:30 PM

Kelly Collier just refuses to stop messaging me and insisting I am slandering her name-perhaps over this thread...going overboard with wild accusation I'm supposedly making about her...my best warning to anyone considering Collier Ranch...run run away, if you for whatever reason you do consider them, do not give out your contact information...furthermore even over the internet stalking is stalking and shows someone has serious mental issues.

Nancy1999 · 03-24-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl

Kelly Collier just refuses to stop messaging me and insisting I am slandering her name-perhaps over this thread...going overboard with wild accusation I'm supposedly making about her...my best warning to anyone considering Collier Ranch...run run away, if you for whatever reason you do consider them, do not give out your contact information...furthermore even over the internet stalking is stalking and shows someone has serious mental issues.

Sorry this is happening to you, can you refuse her messages or block her?

Mardelin · 03-24-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl

Kelly Collier just refuses to stop messaging me and insisting I am slandering her name-perhaps over this thread...going overboard with wild accusation I'm supposedly making about her...my best warning to anyone considering Collier Ranch...run run away, if you for whatever reason you do consider them, do not give out your contact information...furthermore even over the internet stalking is stalking and shows someone has serious mental issues.

Amazing since they advocate they hate stalkers....yet, have no qualms about harrassing and stealing photos.....

So sorry this is happening to you.

Mardelin · 03-24-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Sorry this is happening to you, can you refuse her messages or block her?

You can block them....

concretegurl · 03-24-2011, 12:39 PM

Just to clarify things...I do not know the size of dog bred by Collier Ranch0I never got that far in talking to them as a potential breeder for our edition (shows how quickly it all went down hill) I made comments about another breeder (there's a thread on it here) whom is breeding 2 and 3 pound dog to produce dogs at maturity 1 1/2 pounds and is setting a further goal to be only 1 pound at maturity...that is actually (Posh Fairy Tail here's the link-http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/224406-micro-mini-teacups-under-1-lb.html ) no where do I state that was CR's practice, however CR (and Karla Clippinger) did make attacks against my opinion on that being irresponsible breeding...reading comprehension in ability should also be a requirement one looks for in a breeder-if they cannot read and interpret things correctly they are probably not researching and assimilating new information critical to dog care etc.

I wish anyone looking for an addition or their first pup the best and hope this thread aid them in finding a responsible, breeder whom is responsible in their breeding practices, and their business practices.

concretegurl · 03-24-2011, 12:41 PM

She went as far to use some guys, memorial page to message message me I did block, several many accounts now hopefully I'll eventually get them all blocked...thank you all.

Mardelin · 03-24-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl

Just to clarify things...I do not know the size of dog bred by Collier Ranch0I never got that far in talking to them as a potential breeder for our edition (shows how quickly it all went down hill) I made comments about another breeder (there's a thread on it here) whom is breeding 2 and 3 pound dog to produce dogs at maturity 1 1/2 pounds and is setting a further goal to be only 1 pound at maturity...that is actually (Posh Fairy Tail here's the link-http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/224406-micro-mini-teacups-under-1-lb.html ) no where do I state that was CR's practice, however CR (and Karla Clippinger) did make attacks against my opinion on that being irresponsible breeding...reading comprehension in ability should also be a requirement one looks for in a breeder-if they cannot read and interpret things correctly they are probably not researching and assimilating new information critical to dog care etc.

I wish anyone looking for an addition or their first pup the best and hope this thread aid them in finding a responsible, breeder whom is responsible in their breeding practices, and their business practices.

Well it appears they are quilty of the very thing they advocate against "Stalking"

One would think that their "business" could recover if they put as much effort into becoming reputable breeders as they do into harrassment.

megansmomma · 03-24-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl

Just to clarify things...I do not know the size of dog bred by Collier Ranch0I never got that far in talking to them as a potential breeder for our edition (shows how quickly it all went down hill) I made comments about another breeder (there's a thread on it here) whom is breeding 2 and 3 pound dog to produce dogs at maturity 1 1/2 pounds and is setting a further goal to be only 1 pound at maturity...that is actually (Posh Fairy Tail here's the link-http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/224406-micro-mini-teacups-under-1-lb.html ) no where do I state that was CR's practice, however CR (and Karla Clippinger) did make attacks against my opinion on that being irresponsible breeding...reading comprehension in ability should also be a requirement one looks for in a breeder-if they cannot read and interpret things correctly they are probably not researching and assimilating new information critical to dog care etc.

I wish anyone looking for an addition or their first pup the best and hope this thread aid them in finding a responsible, breeder whom is responsible in their breeding practices, and their business practices.

Block her craziness! You do not need the stress in your life and anyone who upsets and antagonizes a 8+month pregnant woman needs to be turned into the local police department! WTH is wrong with these people

concretegurl · 03-25-2011, 12:28 AM

Nancy and Mardelin thank you for your kind words this has been an educational experience as well unneeded drama. I appreciate knowing other YTers are so supportive .

This is the last response I will post to this individual (Goldcountry) as it is some kind of game to them to abuse YT thread for their own purposes.

Gold country if you know nothing about me, then don't post things about my personal life you would not be privileged to know.
First you stated you had just gotten a pup from CR now that you do not know them...wow that shows how they sell pups...thanks for adding that here...

I was refereed to CR as a Parti breeder -there's no pretending I posted a WANTED thread here, as well have been openly talking to multiple Parti breeders on here for many months, many people can verify such, furthermore I directly corresponded with Collier Ranch, about their breeding later I asked if they were on YT and then later about seeing a negative thread from a past buyer of theirs who got a pup sick pup from them. I gave them the benefit of any doubt and directly asked their side as I thought that was only fair-my mistake-I received a bizarre response from Kelly about her personal life and Gayle, her bipolar sister who stalks people she believes are acting against CR...those are Kelly's statements to me...I can post all the messages Kelly wrote and signed with the dates and times if need be...

I never stalked them or made negative comments about them on their page-I do not condone or partake in such behavior-stating such is slanderous.

The only way to see their page (Collier Ranch's) is when they accept you as a "friend" or you accept them as a "friend" ...which I was when I was considering a pup from them self...until I was advised (wisely) to not get a pup from them.

Also public information is readily available on the internet, verify it and correct any inaccuracies you feel there are at their sources...apparently a thread I posted about another breeder's breeding practices-breeding undersized dogs-was assume incorrectly to be about them-Collier Ranch (the one I already posted a link to and already addressed the misconception you have about I suggest the last thing you do before leaving YT is to read that entire thread).

Due to Collier Ranch thinking I posted the thread about them-which is clearly labeled about the breeder it was about and never mentioned CR until they began harassing and slandering me claiming the thread was about them.

Then (you) they gave out my personal contact information and began harassing me in various ways and passing out my information to others who sent me threatening messages and links to internet sites slandering me and posting my information. The hang up phone calls between 1 am and 5 am were obviously the behavior of a very mentally unstable individual. Which is quite illegal with both civil and criminal penalties.

If this continues legal action will be taken.

If you do not like YT delete your account...and do not post or pass out my personal information, continue to contact me via various anonymous accounts, your own accounts or here without permission again Kelly. This is the last time I will politely to ask you to do so.This nonsense is not the purpose of YT and is insulting to it...

n2cm · 03-25-2011, 08:14 AM

I would like to welcome the OP to YT! I also would like to say I wish you the best in your search, be very careful and do you homework first. It is important to trust your breeder since you will be purchasing a puppy for life as well as the breeder. As far as your question about a male or female I would say I would have to speak with you first to make that decision, since I always try to place the right puppy to the right home. I see your located in Merced and I am in Los Banos so if you would like to talk I am just a short call away from you.

Rhetts_mama · 03-25-2011, 08:27 AM

Well, it's obvious that a particular person has an agenda here to promote Collier Ranch. To anyone looking at Collier Ranch, I highly suggest you take a look at the way they respond to people that did not have a good experience with them.

Collier Ranch Yorkies - Sunnyvale, CA

While there are several good reviews on Yelp, it's interesting to note that they came after the start of a particular FB page and after several of the posters on that page said they had joined there because their breeders asked them to. ***NOTE*** I'm not saying that Collier Ranch or anyone else asked some of their posters to go put up reviews defending the breeder.

One of the things to look at in a breeder is how they handle problems with their dogs and their customers. Between their response on Yelp as well as some of their statements on FB, you've got a pretty good idea of how things are handled. What a potential buyer decides to do with that information is up to them.

Nancy1999 · 03-25-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Well, it's obvious that a particular person has an agenda here to promote Collier Ranch. To anyone looking at Collier Ranch, I highly suggest you take a look at the way they respond to people that did not have a good experience with them.

Collier Ranch Yorkies - Sunnyvale, CA

While there are several good reviews on Yelp, it's interesting to note that they came after the start of a particular FB page and after several of the posters on that page said they had joined there because their breeders asked them to. ***NOTE*** I'm not saying that Collier Ranch or anyone else asked some of their posters to go put up reviews defending the breeder.

One of the things to look at in a breeder is how they handle problems with their dogs and their customers. Between their response on Yelp as well as some of their statements on FB, you've got a pretty good idea of how things are handled. What a potential buyer decides to do with that information is up to them.

Did you see this?

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Voted #1 Ethical Breeder

I wonder what the other breeders are like?

concretegurl · 03-25-2011, 11:34 AM

Ethics?-I was messaged again from another "stranger" Kelly's comments about me once again giving out my name and contact information ...ethical business practices..I have omitted my name from her statements...and cannot believe I am getting harassed and threatened and then she claims I'm doing such...then goes on with the statements of what is obviously not an ethical person...I would share the message that sent me these comments...but I'd have to omit so many words to make it appropriate it would not make sense...the jist was I will sued if and my personal information will continually be given pout passed around the internet if (most of which has nothing to do with me) all the negative statements about CR on YT do not get deleted...

n2cm-I don't believe this person is actually just on YT as a random persona or customer, I saw they posted here then received pms on Fb from Kelly stating the exact same words and etc...she claims it is her mentally ill unstable sister Gayle...

Again most of what she states about me is completely untrue, she doesn't know me other than my contact information and so her statements are ludicrous....the rest just nasty...does that seem like ethics to anyone? This is why i said she should be avoided at all cost to potential pup buyers-my personal experience with CR has been a nightmare to say the least...

From CR to the nasty page about me:
Concrete girl-(my name has been omitted) I am one person she has attacked and there are dozens. How can someone expect any comfort when they have harmed so many? They are mad because of their own Narsassit rants against random unknown people. She still never aswers the question..do any of you actually know these people or have you had any business dealings with them? A judge would not hear one thing except..WHY doid you post this. They are hanging their butts out for lawsuits. I mean, Think about this. I live in the wealthiest area in the US next to Manhatten ... the silicon valley. She has no idea who i am or what kind of bear she's poking with a stick. And she has the audacity to threaten me for commenting on her negativity. Then she posts direct derogatory info and tags to retaliate. she isn't so bright. I pay my gardener more than she and her child husnband combined. Seriously, My sister's and I live only a few hrs from her and she can be served so easily. If I wanted to, I could make sure her unborn children never see the inside of a college.
2 hours ago

goldcountry · 03-25-2011, 02:35 PM

going there and poking people with a stick. You are obsessing and that isn't healthy. It doesn't actually matter what anyone posts here about you or you wouldn't be doing it to others ..right. What comes around goes around. be healthy and be the first to be a bigger person and just STOP

. Go pet your dog Shannon, it sounds like you need some love.

goldcountry · 03-25-2011, 02:37 PM

Never explain yourself. Your friends don’t need it and your enemies won’t believe it.

There is nothing worth the wear of winning, but laughter and the love of friends and the devotion of a DOG.

03-24-2011, 12:30 PM	#31
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Kelly Collier just refuses to stop messaging me and insisting I am slandering her name-perhaps over this thread...going overboard with wild accusation I'm supposedly making about her...my best warning to anyone considering Collier Ranch...run run away, if you for whatever reason you do consider them, do not give out your contact information...furthermore even over the internet stalking is stalking and shows someone has serious mental issues. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

03-24-2011, 12:39 PM	#35
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Just to clarify things...I do not know the size of dog bred by Collier Ranch0I never got that far in talking to them as a potential breeder for our edition (shows how quickly it all went down hill) I made comments about another breeder (there's a thread on it here) whom is breeding 2 and 3 pound dog to produce dogs at maturity 1 1/2 pounds and is setting a further goal to be only 1 pound at maturity...that is actually (Posh Fairy Tail here's the link-http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/224406-micro-mini-teacups-under-1-lb.html ) no where do I state that was CR's practice, however CR (and Karla Clippinger) did make attacks against my opinion on that being irresponsible breeding...reading comprehension in ability should also be a requirement one looks for in a breeder-if they cannot read and interpret things correctly they are probably not researching and assimilating new information critical to dog care etc. I wish anyone looking for an addition or their first pup the best and hope this thread aid them in finding a responsible, breeder whom is responsible in their breeding practices, and their business practices. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

03-24-2011, 12:41 PM	#36
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	She went as far to use some guys, memorial page to message message me I did block, several many accounts now hopefully I'll eventually get them all blocked...thank you all. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

03-25-2011, 12:28 AM	#39
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Nancy and Mardelin thank you for your kind words this has been an educational experience as well unneeded drama. I appreciate knowing other YTers are so supportive . This is the last response I will post to this individual (Goldcountry) as it is some kind of game to them to abuse YT thread for their own purposes. Gold country if you know nothing about me, then don't post things about my personal life you would not be privileged to know. First you stated you had just gotten a pup from CR now that you do not know them...wow that shows how they sell pups...thanks for adding that here... I was refereed to CR as a Parti breeder -there's no pretending I posted a WANTED thread here, as well have been openly talking to multiple Parti breeders on here for many months, many people can verify such, furthermore I directly corresponded with Collier Ranch, about their breeding later I asked if they were on YT and then later about seeing a negative thread from a past buyer of theirs who got a pup sick pup from them. I gave them the benefit of any doubt and directly asked their side as I thought that was only fair-my mistake-I received a bizarre response from Kelly about her personal life and Gayle, her bipolar sister who stalks people she believes are acting against CR...those are Kelly's statements to me...I can post all the messages Kelly wrote and signed with the dates and times if need be... I never stalked them or made negative comments about them on their page-I do not condone or partake in such behavior-stating such is slanderous. The only way to see their page (Collier Ranch's) is when they accept you as a "friend" or you accept them as a "friend" ...which I was when I was considering a pup from them self...until I was advised (wisely) to not get a pup from them. Also public information is readily available on the internet, verify it and correct any inaccuracies you feel there are at their sources...apparently a thread I posted about another breeder's breeding practices-breeding undersized dogs-was assume incorrectly to be about them-Collier Ranch (the one I already posted a link to and already addressed the misconception you have about I suggest the last thing you do before leaving YT is to read that entire thread). Due to Collier Ranch thinking I posted the thread about them-which is clearly labeled about the breeder it was about and never mentioned CR until they began harassing and slandering me claiming the thread was about them. Then (you) they gave out my personal contact information and began harassing me in various ways and passing out my information to others who sent me threatening messages and links to internet sites slandering me and posting my information. The hang up phone calls between 1 am and 5 am were obviously the behavior of a very mentally unstable individual. Which is quite illegal with both civil and criminal penalties. If this continues legal action will be taken. If you do not like YT delete your account...and do not post or pass out my personal information, continue to contact me via various anonymous accounts, your own accounts or here without permission again Kelly. This is the last time I will politely to ask you to do so.This nonsense is not the purpose of YT and is insulting to it... __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

03-25-2011, 08:14 AM	#40
n2cm Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 76	I would like to welcome the OP to YT! I also would like to say I wish you the best in your search, be very careful and do you homework first. It is important to trust your breeder since you will be purchasing a puppy for life as well as the breeder. As far as your question about a male or female I would say I would have to speak with you first to make that decision, since I always try to place the right puppy to the right home. I see your located in Merced and I am in Los Banos so if you would like to talk I am just a short call away from you. __________________ I am the "G" part of DNG Presley Yorkies. My name is Gloria.

03-25-2011, 08:27 AM	#41
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	Well, it's obvious that a particular person has an agenda here to promote Collier Ranch. To anyone looking at Collier Ranch, I highly suggest you take a look at the way they respond to people that did not have a good experience with them. Collier Ranch Yorkies - Sunnyvale, CA While there are several good reviews on Yelp, it's interesting to note that they came after the start of a particular FB page and after several of the posters on that page said they had joined there because their breeders asked them to. *NOTE* I'm not saying that Collier Ranch or anyone else asked some of their posters to go put up reviews defending the breeder. One of the things to look at in a breeder is how they handle problems with their dogs and their customers. Between their response on Yelp as well as some of their statements on FB, you've got a pretty good idea of how things are handled. What a potential buyer decides to do with that information is up to them. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny.

03-25-2011, 11:34 AM	#43
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Ethics?-I was messaged again from another "stranger" Kelly's comments about me once again giving out my name and contact information ...ethical business practices..I have omitted my name from her statements...and cannot believe I am getting harassed and threatened and then she claims I'm doing such...then goes on with the statements of what is obviously not an ethical person...I would share the message that sent me these comments...but I'd have to omit so many words to make it appropriate it would not make sense...the jist was I will sued if and my personal information will continually be given pout passed around the internet if (most of which has nothing to do with me) all the negative statements about CR on YT do not get deleted... n2cm-I don't believe this person is actually just on YT as a random persona or customer, I saw they posted here then received pms on Fb from Kelly stating the exact same words and etc...she claims it is her mentally ill unstable sister Gayle... Again most of what she states about me is completely untrue, she doesn't know me other than my contact information and so her statements are ludicrous....the rest just nasty...does that seem like ethics to anyone? This is why i said she should be avoided at all cost to potential pup buyers-my personal experience with CR has been a nightmare to say the least... From CR to the nasty page about me: Concrete girl-(my name has been omitted) I am one person she has attacked and there are dozens. How can someone expect any comfort when they have harmed so many? They are mad because of their own Narsassit rants against random unknown people. She still never aswers the question..do any of you actually know these people or have you had any business dealings with them? A judge would not hear one thing except..WHY doid you post this. They are hanging their butts out for lawsuits. I mean, Think about this. I live in the wealthiest area in the US next to Manhatten ... the silicon valley. She has no idea who i am or what kind of bear she's poking with a stick. And she has the audacity to threaten me for commenting on her negativity. Then she posts direct derogatory info and tags to retaliate. she isn't so bright. I pay my gardener more than she and her child husnband combined. Seriously, My sister's and I live only a few hrs from her and she can be served so easily. If I wanted to, I could make sure her unborn children never see the inside of a college. 2 hours ago __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

03-25-2011, 02:35 PM	#44
goldcountry BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: echo park Posts: 18	quit going there and poking people with a stick. You are obsessing and that isn't healthy. It doesn't actually matter what anyone posts here about you or you wouldn't be doing it to others ..right. What comes around goes around. be healthy and be the first to be a bigger person and just STOP. Go pet your dog Shannon, it sounds like you need some love.

03-25-2011, 02:37 PM	#45
goldcountry BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: echo park Posts: 18	Never explain yourself. Your friends don’t need it and your enemies won’t believe it. There is nothing worth the wear of winning, but laughter and the love of friends and the devotion of a DOG.