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Old 06-17-2009, 11:26 AM   #1
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Just got Sully's DNA back. He's 85-90% Yorkshire Terrier and 10-15% West Highland White Terrier... (must be why he's bigger)

So I guess that makes him a:

A Yorkland Terrier?
A Westland Yorkie?

Trying to come up with some creative breed name...JUST don't call my baby a mutt...he's very sensitive.

The place where I got him got a hell of an earful....their response...."sometimes you just don't know who's jumping over the fence into the backyard". Bunch of Morons.
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I'm wondering, I didn't say any threads before so sorry if it's been asked before, but was he "suppose" to be purebred? What made you get a DNA test.
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"sometimes you just don't know who's jumping over the fence into the backyard".[/I] Bunch of Morons.
Seriously??? You don't know who is jumping over the fence??? I take it he was supposed to be purebred and sold as such? Did you get a refund? I know you love him all the same.
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Was the dna a MARS wisdom test? It's not accurate for testing purebreed dogs....with the percentages you received...it's likely the trace amounts that appeared are simply markers that show up in lots of other breeds.

Were he the mix of two different breeds...he wouldn't show up 85% - 90%. You get half the dna from each parent...not all one side.

He may be larger, but I think he's all yorkie.
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I'm wondering, I didn't say any threads before so sorry if it's been asked before, but was he "suppose" to be purebred? What made you get a DNA test.
I've had posts buried in with other threads on the topic of purebreds, largers yorkies and such. I had so many people telling me I got ripped off cause he was a big yorkie - so I decided to get it done to find out once and for all.

Yes, I did buy him as a purebred. Hey, live and learn. I love him anyway but at least now when people say. "he's not a yorkie and that he looks like he had Beagle in him or that he looks part chiuahua"....I can show them the paper showing no beagle or chi.... He's a terrier.
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Was the dna a MARS wisdom test? It's not accurate for testing purebreed dogs....with the percentages you received...it's likely the trace amounts that appeared are simply markers that show up in lots of other breeds.

Were he the mix of two different breeds...he wouldn't show up 85% - 90%. You get half the dna from each parent...not all one side.

He may be larger, but I think he's all yorkie.
That would make sense. I thought it was a small amount only 10-15% rather than 50% because one of his grandparents or back even a little further along the line came from West Highland...
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Just got Sully's DNA back. He's 85-90% Yorkshire Terrier and 10-15% West Highland White Terrier... (must be why he's bigger)

So I guess that makes him a:

A Yorkland Terrier?
A Westland Yorkie?
A Workie?

He's fab whatever is in there
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Seriously??? You don't know who is jumping over the fence??? I take it he was supposed to be purebred and sold as such? Did you get a refund? I know you love him all the same.
No refund. Yes he was supposed to be purebred. I wrote them a NASTY letter and left a message with the manager of the place where I got him....(yes I got him at a pet store) Forgive me....

I've learned my lesson not to "rescue" from a pet store EVER again. Learned a lot on this forum and wished I came here before, but then again I believe everything happens for a reason and that I was supposed to have this little guy in our home. He's brought joy to us - I just wanted some ammunition for rude people on the street who insist on telling me I got ripped off.
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Just got Sully's DNA back. He's 85-90% Yorkshire Terrier and 10-15% West Highland White Terrier... (must be why he's bigger)

So I guess that makes him a:

A Yorkland Terrier?
A Westland Yorkie?

Trying to come up with some creative breed name...JUST don't call my baby a mutt...he's very sensitive.

The place where I got him got a hell of an earful....their response...."sometimes you just don't know who's jumping over the fence into the backyard". Bunch of Morons.
It is the breeder's response that would have me livid -- I agree it was a moronic response! That shows they don't really have much faith in their own security when it comes to females in heat. Even though the "accident" probably happened several generations back, it would make me have little trust in the current breeder either. They are probably breeding dogs that don't meet the standard to start with.

But your big guy is very cute and I am sure he will bring you many years of joy! I know it can be disappointing to not get what you expect, especially when some of us waited a long time to get the Yorkie we had in mind. But all things seem to happen for a reason, and sometimes the pup that might be off in a standard or two is the very best pet of all.
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No refund. Yes he was supposed to be purebred. I wrote them a NASTY letter and left a message with the manager of the place where I got him....(yes I got him at a pet store) Forgive me....

I've learned my lesson not to "rescue" from a pet store EVER again. Learned a lot on this forum and wished I came here before, but then again I believe everything happens for a reason and that I was supposed to have this little guy in our home. He's brought joy to us - I just wanted some ammunition for rude people on the street who insist on telling me I got ripped off.
Aww, I know how you feel about the whole "pet store thing". I bought my Ralphie from what was basically a pet shop. Obviously if I knew what I knew now I wouldn't have done it, but he is just the best thing that ever happened to me so I guess I can't really be that upset about it. I love him so much it hurts All we can do is help educate others.

How about calling him a "Yestie". I still like "Workie the best though
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That would make sense. I thought it was a small amount only 10-15% rather than 50% because one of his grandparents or back even a little further along the line came from West Highland...

Hmmm....so maybe I wrote the nasty letter for nothing?....that would be embarrassing...maybe that's what the manager of the store wants to tell me....YIKES. oooopsy
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It is the breeder's response that would have me livid -- I agree it was a moronic response! That shows they don't really have much faith in their own security when it comes to females in heat. Even though the "accident" probably happened several generations back, it would make me have little trust in the current breeder either. They are probably breeding dogs that don't meet the standard to start with.

But your big guy is very cute and I am sure he will bring you many years of joy! I know it can be disappointing to not get what you expect, especially when some of us waited a long time to get the Yorkie we had in mind. But all things seem to happen for a reason, and sometimes the pup that might be off in a standard or two is the very best pet of all.
Yeah, I've done some serious digging and come to find out that my baby made a LONG trip to Northern New England from Arkansas to a place called Hunte Corporation in Missouri (I know, I know - I had NO IDEA about this place) I cringe when I think about his poor mother and the pups she must be pumping out and then sent off in a truck to this New Hampshire pet store. Poor little guy. (tearing up)
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Hmmm....so maybe I wrote the nasty letter for nothing?....that would be embarrassing...maybe that's what the manager of the store wants to tell me....YIKES. oooopsy

Don't feel bad! I would of responded the same, perhaps one of the grandparents were one of those " jumped over the fence dogs "
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No refund. Yes he was supposed to be purebred. I wrote them a NASTY letter and left a message with the manager of the place where I got him....(yes I got him at a pet store) Forgive me....

I've learned my lesson not to "rescue" from a pet store EVER again. Learned a lot on this forum and wished I came here before, but then again I believe everything happens for a reason and that I was supposed to have this little guy in our home. He's brought joy to us - I just wanted some ammunition for rude people on the street who insist on telling me I got ripped off.
You posted this as I was typing my previous post so I did not realize he came from a pet store and not direct from a breeder. So, it was the pet store that made the comment about "just don't know who's jumping over the fence into the back yard." They probably have no idea about the place the puppy actually came from then. I think most of those pet stores buy from a third party broker and never even communicate with the actual breeder.

After reading a couple of these threads about people who have gone to all of the trouble and expense to get the DNA testing to determine if their dog is a purebred or not.... I am thinking it is probably a waste of time and money. If the test cannot tell if a dog is purebred, then these results that show just a little percentage of another breed are within the realm of what a purebred dog might test at. Am I reading all of their disclaimers right? I am disappointed with the testing! I would have thought it could tell a purebred. I am not sure why else people would want the test. If you know you have a mix, why pay money for the test? I think the company needs to make it perfectly clear that a purebred dog tested with their DNA test will not always show 100% of one breed.

It seems poorly bred is more of a problem than mixed bred.
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