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Old 03-30-2009, 07:41 PM   #1
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I am very frustrated and even on the verge of tears at the moment. I love Bailey to death but I have 2 problems with her that are really bothering me.

1- She gets so wild and bites like crazy when she wants to play. If I try to pick her up she wiggles so bad she almost makes me drop her. On the floor she zooms back and worth so fast she bangs into furniture. And she goes crazy attacking me with her teeth, biting my skin, clothes, face, hair. And she bites hard! When she's on the couch she acts like she wants to jump off, which she kind of did once. And a second ago she got surprised and kind of somersaulted off the couch. That's what got me on the verge of tears because I freaked out. She seems fine and as soon as I put her back on the couch she acted like she still wanted to jump. When she bites I tell her no, make sharp noises like claps, "AH AH", etc. She responds to nothing. I usually just put her in time out by taking her to the gated kitchen, which brings me to problem 2...

2- She won't be apart from me for a second. Even if I put her in the kitchen with gates and I'm right next door in the family room she cries, howls, works herself up so bad that she almost threw up once. She also just peed on the floor, which I think could have been on purpose since she's recently gone and has been doing very well with the pads. If she can't even be in another room than me while I'm home, how am I going to leave her for 8 hours when I work?

Anybody have suggestions??? Encouragement? Will she grow out of these things or is it gonna take as much work as it seems it will?
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First how old is she? Second we had this problem with Laddy when he was younger and every so often now he will nip. Our solution was to say no bite and put him in his crate and ignore him for 5 min at a time each and every time he bit. It only took a couple days of this to get him to stop. Now he only tries it with strangers and at first sign of it into crate he goes and it stops. Hope this helps.
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Sorry to hear your Bailey is misbehaving. How old is she? When my guys were teething they'd bite, and I'd make a loud, crying like noise. That would get their attention and make them stop.

My guys never developed separation anxiety, but I had two, so they just kept each other company. You can give Bailey a kong toy to occupy her time, or just keep practicing leaving her alone for small increments, reassuring her that you will return to her. There is also a toy that makes heartbeat sounds that she might find comforting.

Also, make sure you take her out for at least 1/2 hour walk. I find that my guys behave better when they've had a bit of exercise. It mellows them and then they sleep more soundly too.

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She's just over 10 weeks old, so still very young. And obviously because she's not fully vaccinated I can't use walks.

I forgot to mention that I also try the crying like a dog when she bites, but it doesn't work either. She just gets so hyper she keeps biting no matter what.

She has a kong in the kitchen as well as lots of other toys. I've read over and over about leaving her for short time periods. I will leave her in the kitchen while I go upstairs to do something. She cries but doesn't seem to cry as bad as when I'm right in the next room.

I know part of my problem is that I'm such a worrier and her crying makes me feel guilty so I eventually come back and get her.
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Puddin went through a similar stage at about the same age. Bailey needs to learn the word "no" and, if you don't already know how, you need to learn to use the word in a strong, commanding, no nonsense way. Think about the way a drill sergeant barks orders at a bunch of new recruits---that is the tone of voice you need to use. A loud, sharp NO will usually make them stop what they are doing, at least momentarily, which gives you the opportunity to reward her compliance. If she persists, then she needs a consequence...put her in her crate or shut her in another room where she can't see you for a few minutes. Right now, she has found ways to get what she wants and as long as these behaviours are successful for her, she will not stop them.

Same thing with the clinginess...you have to harden your heart to her cries and just leave her alone. I don't know if you use a crate or how you isolate Bailey, but I have a very large tiled bathroom where Puddin's bed and crate are kept, along with her food, water, and pad...in fact, we now refer to it as "her room." She is left there with the doors closed. If she paws the door for us to let her out, sometimes we do, sometimes don't. But if she accompanies the pawing with setting up a ruckus, we tell her "NO!" and when she has quieted down, we reward her compliance by letting her out.

Bottom line, Bailey is behaving this way because it works for her. When it doesn't work anymore, she will try something else. Eventually, if you are consistent and firm, she will try what you want her to do and when she gets rewarded for that behaviour, she will settle on it.
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I know part of my problem is that I'm such a worrier and her crying makes me feel guilty so I eventually come back and get her.
I can guarantee you that she will become a legendary whiner. It's just like kids. If you are going to give up, do it right away, or she will learn that whining works, as long as she is very persistent.

As I've mentioned, Thor used to belong to my coworker. Every time I came into the office, I'd hear him make these heart breaking little whimpers to let his owner know he wanted to say hi to me. She'd hold out for anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes, but eventually she would give up and he'd come running over. So when I got him, I knew he'd developed a monster whining habit. Me, I'm like stone. He's tried whining with me - one of his favorite tricks was to drape himself along one side of his crate and cry like a damsel in distress - but he stopped it after a few weeks because it didn't work.

Now if he whimpers, I know something serious is up.

Good luck with everything! It's probably just puppy stuff she's grow out of. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
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Oh, one other thing. Some people recommend rolling a dog's lip into his mouth if he is a persistent biter. This gives him a taste of his own medicine. I will do this if a dog won't stop mouthing me, even after "puppy squeal" and a firm "no".
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Sounds like you've gotten a lot of good advice, especially the don't give in part. I know how tough it can be. Try not to get frustrated.

I'd check with your vet on whether your dog can go for outside walks. My understanding is that it's OK if you don't bring them around other dogs or let them get into dog poo. The fear is Parvo and distemper, and if you can keep them away from other dogs, it shouldn't be a problem. And exercise will go a long way to helping with the excess energy issues.

For biting, try to have a healthy chew that she likes always handy. If she gets nippy, give her something that's acceptable to chew on. A bully stick, nylabone or stuffed Kong.

Good luck. The puppy months can be overwhelming.
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We had the same kind of problem with Xavier at first. I couldn't tell him no or discipline him to save my life! My hubby had been telling me for months that I had to tell him no and I just wouldn't do it. Finally, one day a friend was over and he wouldn't quit biting me...she was like, tell him NO! And of course I did in a timid voice and that did nothing...so she had me kinda swat him on the nose when I said it and BOY! Did that work!

It took about a month of being very firm with him and crating him off and on, but now he's pretty well behaved! I felt awful doing it, but now he's a much better dog.

While he was teething, the poor guy couldn't help but chew on everything. We just started giving things he was allowed to chew on when he began chewing on things he wasn't supposed to.

He's so funny. You can get him super hyper now and in the same 10 seconds he'll go from play biting to kissing you. Now, even if we are playing, I don't worry about him hurting me or anyone else. Yorkies are true terriers and you MUST treat them like that. Its hard because they are so tiny & sweet, but sometimes you hafta be strict.

Hope Bailey learns soon
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Very good advise from everybody I would just also not sit on the couch with her but on the floor and really play with her with a toy that she could pull and not get to your fingers to get rid of all her energy and then when is has calmed down and is ready for a nap put her next to me on the couch where I can keep my hand on her so she does not jump off. This will pass but like with children you have to do it everyday. Remember YOU are the pack leader NOW.
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Can you leave something that smells like you when you leave, a t shirt or something. They have something called a dap, dog appeasing pheromone that smells like the mother when they are nursing, some people have had good luck with it. Try taking your hand and close his mouth and say no when he wants to bite, he is still young so all of this is pretty close to normal for most puppies. They are hard to say no they are so darn cute.
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Regarding the biting; our puppy kindergarten teacher told us that we should do what the puppy's mother would do-take her down. By that I mean-when your puppy is biting your hand, etc. take your hand and gently grab the mouth, then firmly (but carefully) put the puppy on his side and hold him there for a short time, and say "NO". This is what the mother would do, and it works great. It only took a very short time, and we never had a problem again.
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Regarding the biting; our puppy kindergarten teacher told us that we should do what the puppy's mother would do-take her down. By that I mean-when your puppy is biting your hand, etc. take your hand and gently grab the mouth, then firmly (but carefully) put the puppy on his side and hold him there for a short time, and say "NO". This is what the mother would do, and it works great. It only took a very short time, and we never had a problem again.
OMG..I had this problem SOOO bad. The biting I mean. When Marley was athe age of your pup, he would bite bite bite and when I would try to correct him, he would bite more and go after my finger.
The advice given so far is very good as far as I can tell. I finally got a trainer to help me with him, ( He's 9 months), but prior, I would grab his muzzle and tell him NO..every time he would bite, then put him in time out. I also would lay him on his side, Cesar style.. no luck. It just takes persistance. Remember, his crying is not going to hurt him.
It's hard but there are lots of little things that go along with this that helps him learn you are the boss. You have to be for your baby to be happy.
First, no sleeping with you.
Second, he's never to be higher than you ( like on the back of the couch)
You should make him earn everything.
You put the food down, make him sit to earn it.
Etc Etc. You always go thru the door before him..
Sounds silly maybe but it works.
Marley is finally complying.
The biggest thing, was kicking him out of my bed, and kenneling him at night..or crating. I hated this.
But that alone stopped much of his barking and changed his behavior immensely!
We have to be the boss for them to be happy. And also for US to have a dog that is a happier dog
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[QUOTE=TishaMoon;2552616]She's just over 10 weeks old, so still very young. And obviously because she's not fully vaccinated I can't use walks.

I forgot to mention that I also try the crying like a dog when she bites, but it doesn't work either. She just gets so hyper she keeps biting no matter what.

She has a kong in the kitchen as well as lots of other toys. I've read over and over about leaving her for short time periods. I will leave her in the kitchen while I go upstairs to do something. She cries but doesn't seem to cry as bad as when I'm right in the next room.

I know part of my problem is that I'm such a worrier and her crying makes me feel guilty so I eventually come back and get her. [/QUO


She's just over 10 weeks old
This is the reason for being hyper and nipping,..She is JUST a puppy! Puppies do this...Mine were like this...eventually the calm down with the nipping..Give her time...Get her a toy that she can chew on so she doesn't use your toes and fingers. Don't give up the ship! The day will come that you miss the puppy stage!
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Hi just wanted to add that I take Pebbles out for a walk and she is 12 weeks old, but I do not let her mix with any other dogs. I also just keep her on the sidewalks where there usually is no other dogs poop. Sounds like your little girl is just like mine. Good luck.
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