another pit bull attack

[Zeus08]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

When I read your reply, I thought that was an excellant idea, I just found this quote from Wikipedia though:



I don't wish to bash breeds, but I just find this so frightening. To think this could happen while you're just taking your dog out for a walk in your neighborhood is really mind-boggling. I think it's a good reminder that we should all be extra alert.

Thanks Nancy. I never thought it wouldn't work but I appreciate the heads up. I just hope I never have to find out.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by DanielleAllen

My kids are 2 and 3 and my rottie follows them around and makes sure they don't get into trouble. She loves my boys. There was this one time that my youngest was heading down the drive way towards the road and Lily (my rottie) took him by the arm of him coat and brought him back up. When they get to close to the woods she heards them back to the yard. She gets down on the floor and plays with them. There is nothing mean about her. She would NEVER, EVER do anything to them. I am sorry that some of you have had bad experiences with these breeds, but it is not the breed that is at fault. IT IS THE OWNER!

With a pit bull they could be bitting you to play and end up biting you a hole lot harder then they think and end up hurting you.

[DanielleAllen]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

With a pit bull they could be bitting you to play and end up biting you a hole lot harder then they think and end up hurting you.

Any dog could do this. Not just pit bulls. But I was talking about my rottie! and she wouldn't hurt anyone!

[yorkie mad]

anything with teeth has the potential to bite ,the bigger the mouth the more damage feeling its getting a bit tense in here

[Onni]

Originally Posted by paints_n_qhs101

Ok, i find this VERY interesting, I wish you people would do some research and actually meet some normal pit bulls before making assumptions. I have YET to meet a mean pit bull though, I am sure there are plenty because of the type of people that tend to own them dont do anything with them, but I know 50X more snippy yorkies and other small breeds, since they tend to be spoiled and can get away with more. ANY dog that is left in a yard with minimal contact is going to be this way. I dont care what the breed is. And, how many times do labs and other types of dogs charge a fence barking and growling (defending their property as i would want any dog of mine to do), but would never hurt you once you got back there. Maybe if you people would do some research you would see that pit bulls dont even make good guard dogs because they are so friendly (the same reason they get stolen so easily). Mine has yet to even bark at the door bell.

I have a Miniature Schnauzer that will protect me no matter what if i dont tell her someone is OK, and she feels that it is her duty to do so. She is meaner than my APBT or Aussie Mix could EVER imagine being, but that is just her nature. She really doesnt play when it comes to strangers. But since she is a small breed dog people dont take her as being harmful or aggressive. I couldnt imagine what people would think of her if she were 50 lbs. or so. I have also had a GSD that could not even be walked because of her serious protectiveness and other the top dog aggression. And, this is not from poor socialization or anything of the nature because I come from a very dog smart home, my parents have had dogs (including working GSDs) all my life and I have YET to see one as well-balanced as my APBT.

Many of the larger working breeds have gotten a bad rap and go through their phases in the media where people pick them out because that is what sells and what people want to hear. I dont know how many times I have been bitten by my roommates chihuahua. I was also bitten by a lab and a husky as a child. But, I have yet to be bitten by a pit bull, even in the stressful shelter situation most are all just happy for the attention. Most dog bites are not even reported, I know that none of mine were. But for some reason people feel that pit bull bites are a big deal, because like i said, that is currently what gets the media hyped up.

I have a 2 year old, female, APBT that has her Canine Good Citizen, that I compete with in obedience, and am currently training for agility. How many of you can say that? She has never met a stranger, she loves all people, adults and especially children. She gets along with all dogs, larger and small (including our YORKIE). She is the smartest and most well-rounded dog I have ever owned and I would definitely have another.

You may not like the APBT, but to call them KILLERS and refer to them as THINGS is ridiculous. How would you feel if someone talked bad about your beloved pets?

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How about visiting "www.pitbullforum.com" and doing some reading from people that actually have first hand experience with the breed.

I have to agree. It boils down to negligent owners and stupid people. Far to many people get powerful dogs for "status" rather than having the breed as a pet they care for, teach and nurture.

I would say 95% of the problems we read about with Pit Bulls or any aggressive dog is due to owners who are negligent, stupid or both.

Unfortunately it is innocent people and the animal that pays the price for it in the end.

Any large dog left to it's own devices without any training, love or attention can have aggression and or behavior problems and so can small dogs.

[oopsmyhalofello]

What a horrific story, I feel awful just thinking about it. I used to walk around my neighborhood with or without my dogs (big and little dogs) and there was a Pitt that lived here, behind a chain link fence. He/she concreted what I had read and thought about the breed unfortunately. Every time we walked by this dog would go balistic and charge the fence trying to tear it down with all it's might,with it's mouth to get at us. There are a lot of dogs in our neighbor hood and not 1 of them has ever shown even close to the actions of this dog. I was very happy when they moved away, I just hope that the dog hasn't gotten lose and killed anyone.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by Onni

I would say 95% of the problems we read about with Pit Bulls or any aggressive dog is due to owners who are negligent, stupid or both.

If only people who are negligent, stupid, or both had signs across their heads saying so, and could be denied ownership of potentially dangerous pets, all would be well. Since they are not all easily identified, and even if they are identified, they can't be denied ownership, the only solution to me is to put an end to a breed that should never have been developed in the first place.

I don't know about breeding them for nannies, but they definately have been bred for their aggression, strength, and fighting/killing ability. I know there are many good pits and many responsible, caring pit owners. I have a friend with a sweet pit bull that I find it hard to believe could turn on anyone. But that is what many news reports say about these dogs after they have killed someone or ripped a poor pet to shreds. There is just no way to limit the ownership to responsible people and no way to limit the dogs to only those that will never turn and give in to their basic instinct, the very traits they were bred for.

It is not just people either as the OP brought up. 64% of attacks on other dogs are from pit bulls. After all that is where their name came from. The original Staffordshire terriers were bred for bloodsport of tearing up bulls, bears and the like. When that was outlawed, people started having dog fights in pits, where the last dog standing was the winner. These dogs were bred to do damage and they were selected for their fierceness and ability to kill. Those not skilled at killing perished at the jaws of another with more aggression or were killed at their owner's hand. Pit bulls are also the most abused breed we have.

I am all for the laws some cities, counties, and even countries have passed to limit or outlaw their ownership and breeding. Even the President of PETA supports a ban on breeding pit bulls and supports the policy at most animal shelters to automatically destroy pit bulls brought in. I don't think anyone's pet should be taken away and killed. But I think it is high time that this breed be ended so the animal abuse that takes place can end and nearly 3/4 of the people who die from dog bite each year can be saved along with almost 2/3 of the other dogs killed by them.

I know all dogs can bite, all dogs can be aggressive. I support regular gun ownership but not personal rocket launcher or nuclear weapon ownership. It is all a matter of perspective. These dogs were a sinful mistake made by evil people wanting to see death and destruction. We need to end the breed and put our time, energy and money into more compassionate breeds. But like I said, I wish no harm to those that are already here through no fault of their own. Those need to be nurtured, trained and WATCHED very carefully. I believe every single one of them is capable in the right circumstance of reverting to the traits that have been bred into them generation after generation -- so I emphasize that "WATCHED very carefully" part.

This is a good reference to read: DOG BITE LAW - Breed Specific Laws It gives information in support of each side of a difficult topic.

[omichka]

1. I am not against pitbulls at all, I just do not trust owners. It is not a secret, that for some reason, many of them inmature, insecure people who owned "bid and scary" dogs only to raise their self-esteem. That is dangerous and that is the problem...The dog is not a toy, it is a gun and it can shoot, especially if it is the breed which was designed to be a warrior...

2. Although I am not against pitbulls, I would never let my yorkie girls be close to pit. Actually, I let twice before, but I knew those particular dogs and I was SO careful, just my body was between pit and my yorkie.
I have noticed, that some owners just do NOT know their own dog's behavior. One day, I met one guy with pit who moved AGRESSIVELY toward Jessica. The guy said "He is very friendly". Maybe he is... regarding people, but he didn't look friendly at all with Jessica. Thank you, I don't need that risk.