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Old 03-19-2009, 04:09 PM   #31
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It's a vicious cycle; these poor dogs get a reputation for being mean and crazy, and then jerks who want to fight their dogs or just want a "big, tough" dog start breeding for aggression, as well as treating the pups badly and disposing them to violence. It's sad for everyone. I've been told it's especially bad in central California.
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:23 PM   #32
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I wouldn't trust ANY dog not to turn, the difference with the pit is the fact they can kill you with their bite.
Don't lump ALL pits into this category , cause it's not true.
When trained and properly managed the pitt is a loving companion and one who would die for their owner, blame people not the pitt/

It's very sad and I encourage anyone who knows of a fighting ring to please report it, cause these animals are suffering every single day
I agree with the bolded statement. I'd like to blame the deed/owner not the breed.

I have been bitten by a pit before and I am still afraid of the dogs, I will never let one near me or my family. It is a prejudice I will always have. But if it had been a Yorkie or a Chihuahua etc I would have the same prejudice.
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:31 PM   #33
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that is just so sad. that poor yorkie and the owner, they don't deserve any of these. they were enjoying a nice walk on a sunny day, which ended up in tragedy, how terrible!

I have nothing against any dog, big or small. the problem is their owners, when you own a potentially dangeous breed, you are ultimately responsible to make sure he is secure from the public unless well trained! I am not saying that lil dogs have the right to be snippy or whatever, ALL home owned dogs should be trained. the problem is when you or your pet get attacked by a pit bull, it could be life treatening, which is rearly the case when you get attack by a yorkie. thats what makes it harder to tolerate untrained pit bulls.
I have a chihuahua who gets a lil jumpy (no biting though) from time to time (we are working hard on it), I always always pick her up when we walk by small children or tiny puppies just in case they get scared, which is easy to do as she weighs 5 lbs, but it is not so easy when you have a pit bull!
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When i use to live in NB, Canada i had a yorkie back then as well and my sister had a pitbull the two of them grew up together and are best friend today...my sister just purchased a house so she moved out with her pitbull and both the yorkie and the pitbull are lonely they miss each other...this pitbul is the nicest dog i have ever met so i feel bad for the ones out there that are so mean and not well trained it gives a bad name to the rest of them...animals will act the way you raise them their just like kids... and it is so so cute how the pitbull always protects my yorkie whenever they play or walk ont he street he will aways make sure she is safe and warm... there some goo big dogs out there...
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No dog is a bad dog.... no matter the breed.

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thank you i agree 100% with you
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and sense they can attack I would not want to take a chance with young kids at all because all it take is on bite to kill or injure them horribly bad
My kids are 2 and 3 and my rottie follows them around and makes sure they don't get into trouble. She loves my boys. There was this one time that my youngest was heading down the drive way towards the road and Lily (my rottie) took him by the arm of him coat and brought him back up. When they get to close to the woods she heards them back to the yard. She gets down on the floor and plays with them. There is nothing mean about her. She would NEVER, EVER do anything to them. I am sorry that some of you have had bad experiences with these breeds, but it is not the breed that is at fault. IT IS THE OWNER!
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paints_n_qhs101,
Thanks for posting! I agree that it is all because of how a dog is raised and necessarily the breed. I boyfriend has a pitbull, Molly, who is the biggest baby! Molly & Moose (my 2 month old yorkie) are so good together, although we never leave them alone together, because of size difference and because anything could happen quickly. But, Molly is the sweetest doggie I have ever met. All she wants to do literally is sit in your lap and sleep all day long. We do not have enough time in the day to hold her because she wants to be held just like yorkie!

I hope everyone gets to meet a nice pitbull sometime in there life!
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It has a lot to do with the owner... However, i do believe that thse type of dogs are more aggressive by nature. It is a tragedy whenea little dog or human is killed or hurt by one of these vicious breeds.
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Topics like this become so heated. Everyone has their own opinions and that's fine.

I worked as a bather in a grooming salon. The dogs three dogs who bit me were a Golden Retriever, Chihuahua, and a Yorkie. The dogs who were the biggest babies, boxers and pitbulls.

Yes, little dogs can get away with a lot more because their small mouths don't do much damage. Thus, they don't hurt someone so bad they end up in the hospital and the incident doesn't end up on the news. It's still a bite, whether it's from a small dog or a big dog.

Some of the incidents that show up on the news and they say it's a pitbull, sometimes isn't. They are mixes or something totally different.
And there are many incidents of people getting bitten by dogs, most of the time it never makes the news unless it's a pit.

There's no such thing as a bad breed, again it's how they were trained and in some instances bad breeding (breeding two dogs with bad temperaments or inbreeding).
Which Dog Breeds are the Most Aggressive?

Again, the breed will continue to get a bad rep as long as there are owners who don't care to train them. It's horrible and I hope one day it changes. Until then many will live in fear... heck I would be scared if a dog came charging at me because the owners are not responsible enough to secure them.

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Whenever these threads are posted, the topic always seems to become about the pit bull/owner, instead of what we can do to prevent this from happening.
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Whenever these threads are posted, the topic always seems to become about the pit bull/owner, instead of what we can do to prevent this from happening.

I think the only way to prevent is to train the dog owners and the dogs. It will also help if owners nip the bud if there is any starting signs of aggression with/without a trainer and also to safely contain the dogs when you can't watch them as things can get out of hand quickly given the chance. Also a lot of times, the big dogs do not attack dogs they have already known and played with but it might not be the same with the new dogs they meet and may not like but I can see that if they are well-trained and have a sweet temperament, they are good dogs but sadly not all of them have that sweet temperament and not all owners take the responsibility to train them. I was nearly attacked by a Rottie before when I was a child...the big guy was aiming at my neck (that is right-my neck). I have also seen Rotties who wouldn't even kill a small chick and that is sweet but that one mean Rottie who nearly got to my neck, it will stay with me forever. He also killed a puppy...I wish I can forget all these but once it happened, it stays with you.
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I carry pepper spray with me whenever I walk Zeus. Not for my protection as much as his. Not just pit bulls but any aggressive dog or animal. We tend to get coyotes just walking around. Our Yorkies are small and seen as prey. That poor woman and her baby, my heart goes out to them.
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I have a dog that is 50% pit who is wonderful. pitbulls are not bad dogs. infact, at one time they were used as nannies to help watch children. the dog in the little rascals was a pitbul, and so was betty boops dog ( i know she is a cartoon, but in that time these dogs were beloved animals). they say that they are they maot lyal dogs and are very intent on impressing thier owners. that is why they can be easily trained to fight, because the first growl they give they get a "good boy", etc. just to please their owners. did you know that there were very few (less than 5) of the michael vick dogs that had to be put down. the reason for most of them being put to sleep was for injuries and not aggression! there are even some that are therapy dogs now! imagine...a FIGHTING pitbull now a THERAPY pitbull!

A note about my dogs. Lilo is 40lbs of solid muscle. She will lay on her back to let all 3.5lbs. of Cleo "pin" and wrestle her. They even share their bones, each chewing from different ends!
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I carry pepper spray with me whenever I walk Zeus. Not for my protection as much as his. Not just pit bulls but any aggressive dog or animal. We tend to get coyotes just walking around. Our Yorkies are small and seen as prey. That poor woman and her baby, my heart goes out to them.
When I read your reply, I thought that was an excellant idea, I just found this quote from Wikipedia though:

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Pit Bulls are often not affected by capsaicin-based dog-repellent sprays. Many other dog breeds also display this resistance to pepper spray when they are attacking. Documented cases include Bull Mastiffs, Rottweilers and many German Shepherds (including Police K-9s).[41] In the words of two police officers, it is "not unusual for pepper spray not to work on dogs"[42] and "just as OC spray doesn't work on all humans, it won't work on all canines. Pit Bull - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I don't wish to bash breeds, but I just find this so frightening. To think this could happen while you're just taking your dog out for a walk in your neighborhood is really mind-boggling. I think it's a good reminder that we should all be extra alert.
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That's so sad. People should really have any dog secured in their house.

I wish people would actually train these dogs to be good dogs so that they didn't get such a bad rep.

Every pitbull I've encountered has been a big baby and a sweetheart, luckily. I hope all these people who want this dog because they look tough, actually learn about the breed and train them properly.
I've met BOTH! I've met the kind that was the biggest baby and wouldn't harm a hair on your head. Then the other extreme was part of my extended family! This dog could not be trained. My cousins tried VERY hard to train this dog. He ended up almost taking off my cousin's hand one night, my shoulder one night and so on. After they had exhausted all avenues they made the decision to put the dog down. It was very sad, but they did try everything they could to help train this dog. They now have a well behaved Maltese.
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