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Old 11-22-2008, 06:45 PM   #31
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It is not a matter of worshiping the creature more than the creator...It's the senseless abuse that is taking place for the love of money - to me, that's evil taking over, as there are 'plenty' of other sources of income for ppl to survive on
Nicole, I thought I would answer you, not to change your thinking but to inform others who may have judged me with your anti fur comments. Your comments almost stopped the subject of the thread "chocolate yorkie genetics" which others were receiving info on.

I was born an grew up on a farm here in Montana. Our community was all farming related. My father was a farmer with cows, pigs, chickens and rabbits. We milked our cows by hand. Just think about that the next time you have a glass of milk. This was my life in the 1940s and 1950s. I started breeding rabbits when I was 8 yers old and sold them to a local meat shop. Yes, people ate rabbits then and some still do. Upon entering High School, I joined the FFA [Future Farmers of America] Our AG teacher taught some genetics on farm animals but the most important thing he taught was the care of the farm animals. Proper diet, housing etc. I also learned some genetics and plant genetics at the university I attended. I became intrested in breeding fox when I visited a fox farm in the early 1950s. The genetics of the colors facinated me. I am still facinated by the genetics, especially in my yorkies. Now the Chocolate yorkie. If you want to judge me for the lifestyle I was raised with thats OK as most city people wouldn't understand this culture and heritage.

I do agree with you about abuse of animals. I have seen 3 very bad puppy mills which need to be closed down. This is not who I am. I am a older man who is still facinated with how our creator has made everything especially the genetics and the Chocolate Yorkie Bye All
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Nicole, I thought I would answer you, not to change your thinking but to inform others who may have judged me with your anti fur comments. Your comments almost stopped the subject of the thread "chocolate yorkie genetics" which others were receiving info on.

I was born an grew up on a farm here in Montana. Our community was all farming related. My father was a farmer with cows, pigs, chickens and rabbits. We milked our cows by hand. Just think about that the next time you have a glass of milk. This was my life in the 1940s and 1950s. I started breeding rabbits when I was 8 yers old and sold them to a local meat shop. Yes, people ate rabbits then and some still do. Upon entering High School, I joined the FFA [Future Farmers of America] Our AG teacher taught some genetics on farm animals but the most important thing he taught was the care of the farm animals. Proper diet, housing etc. I also learned some genetics and plant genetics at the university I attended. I became intrested in breeding fox when I visited a fox farm in the early 1950s. The genetics of the colors facinated me. I am still facinated by the genetics, especially in my yorkies. Now the Chocolate yorkie. If you want to judge me for the lifestyle I was raised with thats OK as most city people wouldn't understand this culture and heritage.

I do agree with you about abuse of animals. I have seen 3 very bad puppy mills which need to be closed down. This is not who I am. I am a older man who is still facinated with how our creator has made everything especially the genetics and the Chocolate Yorkie Bye All

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I appreciate you sharing your family history.

Animals fascinate me. I can understand the need to breed for food, however, it has been a very, very long time since there was truly a need for fur to be used as items to keep the human warm. There are plenty of fabrics equipped to do the job.

Unknowingly, I was subjected to seeing animals skinned, some dead and some alive. These horrific images will FOREVER haunt me. There is nothing that I can do or say that stops my minds eye from traveling back to those helpless victims...I also live with shame knowing that I own 2 Fox Coats, both from Poland during the communist era, so I know those conditions of the fur farms were far below any kind of humane standard.

As I age, I become stronger in my values and my beliefs.

If mans worships his creator, than he must respect his creatures...
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Thank you auddoc06 This is some helpful information I was looking for and even materials to study. I still want to learn.

To those who would judge me about being a fur farmer I will state this. I am an old man now and raised rabbits for meat and then bred fox for breeding stock for others when I was a young man. The reason I posted about the choc. yorkies was to get some info to the younger generation. I love animals especially the yorkie. They are the pride and love of my life.

The culture of our country has changed. If you worship the creature more than the creator, then shame on you. I have requested YT to cancel my membership as I do not need this negative input in my life. I love the happy and loving life Wayne

I am very disappointed to read this post. Wayne, I think you have so much expertise to contribute to this forum. Your hands on experience in animal genetics would go a long way educating some on here and I myself can always learn, learn, learn and many others would, can and do appreciate any real information. I see so much unnecessary and misinformation.
Yes, there are many puppymillers, back yard breeders, chicken farmers, slaughter houses, pig farmers etc that are unscrupulous. Lets all be careful that we are not singling out the wrong ones.
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Oh Wayne....please dont go!!!..i for one am glad you are here...it is great to have a man's point of view...especially a man as yourself who has lived and learned as then say......with age comes wisdom...and you sound to me like a very wise man....my parents were both raised on farms...and the framing life as it is really makes me sad...cause now it is all about the money...50 years ago it was a way of life...not just for the human to eat and live, but also the animals...please stay and continue to enlighten us...i look for your username every time i log in....i hope you will look at the negative posts at just that...this is not intended to be religious but here it is......do not judge less ye be judged...there....another one....live and let live....God Speed to you Wayne in everything you do
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Wayne, I hope you will continue to share with us and just ignore the ugly comments. Many of us, are very interested in your views and your beautiful yorkies.
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I understand that everyone has an opinion or a passion, but why can't we all be NICE!!! This is an enjoyable place to share information. If you have nothing nice to say...don't say it at all.
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