Need help with big decision!! 3 Attachment(s) I need help!!!! Please. :( I was supposed to get my Lola this Friday, but when I saw her new pics at 11 weeks, I was not happy. She did not look like a friendly dog and many of my friends didnt think she looked cute or they thought she had an attitude in the photos. I guess she was tired. I attached her photo at 8 weeks and then 12 weeks. When I asked all of you, you all thought she was indeed the same dog and very cute and the more I looked at her the more I realized she is cute and will grow up nicely with all my love. Truthfully, my heart was not into her, but I kept telling myself she is a cutie because my fiance thought she was cute. Well, my breeder sensed that I was not as happy as I was when I first saw her at 8 weeks. When I first met this breeder I was in love with a dog, but she got sold and then the second dog I loved turned out to have a bite issue and I had to let her go. Then I chose this dog that I named Lola and was happy with, but she did not look like the first 2 dogs at all. Last night, my breeder told me she has another dog that looks just like the first two and when I saw the photo I was sooo in love!!! She sensed that I wasnt happy with Lola's appearances and wanted to show me another puppy. I attached 3 pics below. 1. Lola at 8 weeks, 2. Lola at 12 weeks, 3. the new dog. She said she wants me to happy with my decision and now I am conflicted about the dogs. My fiance said to stay with the first dog Lola because if we keep looking at dogs, we may keep seeing cuter dogs and then that would be wrong. Any advice on what I should do. The new puppy is 9 weeks and I would get her next week at 10 weeks while Lola is 12 weeks officially tomorrow and I should get her Friday, if I choose her. The breeder is taking both of them today to the VET and says both dogs have a great disposition and are healthy with no bite issues or any major health concerns. Both are playful. She did say that Lola does have an attitude on her because she is confident. Both are lovable. She was just worried that I did not seem happy with Lola and she wants me and teh puppy to be happy. Which I believe is true. Not sure what to do!!!???!! I do like Lola but I am in love with the new puppy more because that is what I originally wanted my pup to look like. Also I do understand that puppies change and that they change through their adult years too. :confused::confused: |
Both puppies are adorable! The decision will need to be yours, but I would like to point out a couple of things just for you to consider. All puppies go through awkward stages where they dont look "pretty" for brief periods of time. That doesn't mean that they won't be beautiful to you again in just a few more weeks. The difference you are seeing (in my opinion) is the age difference. I think the second puppy will go through a similar stage as the first. If you are concerned about temperament, you need to carefully consider what research has shown about socialization. The longer a pup is with his/her mother and siblings, the more socialization he/she will receive. If a pup is adopted out too soon, there are important lessons they miss out on that only their moms and sibs can teach them. I understand what you're going through. That's a tough decision. |
I think you should get the pup your most in love with both in looks and personality. You wont have any regrets that way |
If I had to give advice Id say go with the new puppy. While lola is an absolute dollface, if you are not into her, you'll always wonder what the 'other pup' would have been like. I think you'd fall in love with whatever pup you decide on though. Also the new pup looks like she has a silky coat while Lola looks like a cottony coat, grooming her could be potentially tougher than the other pup. However that is just the words of someone looking at pictures and I could be totally wrong. Both babies will grow and their looks will change so much. Is there a way you can meet them in person to see which one's personality you like more? |
it is ur decision. But it might just be the age difference |
If you want my uneducated opinion, I would go with the second one she is soooo cute. When you live with them everyday you really don't notice the changes in their look. You want to be happy and it seems you are a bit disappointed with the first one. Remember this little one will be with you for a very long time. You shouldn't have to "learn to like her". I think you will be happier with the second one. I'm sure the first one will be taken very quickly she is also very cute. Don't settle this is a very important decision. :aimeeyork COCO :aimeeyork PEBBLES :aimeeyork TRIXIE |
I am going to see what the VET says today about both and see. Everyone is right that these puppies go through an awkward stage. Believe me, I was the cutest baby ever, but those teenage years...I looked so awkward and ugly! So, I understand that the pups will go through that as well. I am just waiting for a sign to tell me which one is the right puppy. I love my breeder and thinks she is amazing and patient with me and truly cares about her pups and socializing them well, so I trust her when she tells me about the pups character. My mom always told me to pray and God will give you a sign--I had the same issue with law schools 9 years ago and I prayed and one of the law schools housing building was named St. George Hotel (St. George is my saint since I was a little girl) so, that is how I chose my law school. Hopefully, something will show me which one is right............:rolleyes: |
I wish I could meet them and see them face to face and touch them, but I am in NY and the breeder is in Missouri. Thats why this decision is so hard because I dont want to ship a poor puppy all the way on a 3hour flight and then not be happy. |
Is it correct that you are not able to meet the pups, i.e., the breeder is shipping to you? |
Both dog are cute. :wub: You should pick the dog that you like the most. I do not think it is wise for any of us at Yorkie Talk to tell you which dog to pick, because deciding on which dog to adopting is a personal choice. If you are more attracted to the new dog more than Lola then get her instead. Pick a dog that has the looks and personality that you desire. You want to feel joy and not regret after adopting a new dog. Maybe you should list all the things that you like about each dog to help you decide which dog to adopt. Then pick the dog with the traits that you like best. If you are not sure which dog to adopt, then I would wait until I find a dog that I know for sure that I like (100%). The new dog looks just like how my Yorkie looked like at that age. Good Luck!:) |
Yes that is true. She is in Missouri and I am in NY. So, she has to ship the puppies to me. I talk to her all the time several times a day via phone or email about her process and her dogs. I am sure I have annoyed her like no other buyer. I have spoken to a handful of references all over the country and in NY that have purchased from her. I am sooo comfortable with her and trust her completely and love the fact that she has allowed me at the last minute to say no to the puppy that had the bite issue and that she is allowing me to make this decision now. She doesnt push me in anyway and she spends a lot of time with the pups so no one knows the pups better than she does. She really socializes them well in her home. |
personality vs appearance well, i think the personality of the puppy is the most important thing. (and that ALL yorkies are adorable) but i think you need to decide if you care more about the way the dog look or it's personality. if you care more about the cuteness and you think that the new dog is cuter, then you should pick that one. but if i had to pick, i would ask the breeder about the personality of the dogs, and pick based on that. i mean, you are looking at photographs so picking based on photograph is kind of hard...we don't always have good picture days. anyways, if you decided to pick based on appearance, then you can do that yourself and pick which one you like the look better. but if you decide to pick based on personality, i am sure most of us can offer a couple of questions that you can ask the breeder about to help you make the decision. good luck! |
According to the breeder she said both pups are the same. They both like to cuddle and they are both playful and and sweet. She works very hard with them to get used to people and make sure they are socialized. She said that I should be happy with either's personality. They both like to be cuddled and are OK when left alone. SHe said that since the new puppy is 2 weeks younger it is a bit hard to tell since Lola is 2 weeks older. She did confirm that she had an attitude on her---but that was because of her self confidence. Given that.....it seems their personalities are the same......as far as she can tell. this is sooooo hard!!!:(:( |
I will just give my personal opinion, because I'm sure that you understand ultimately it is your decision to make. Without knowing the personality of either pup, I would choose the new one. :) |
I think they are both cute. They are both pups and WILL change into adults that look totally different, so I don't think you can go wrong with either of them. My concerns lie in the fact that the breeder is in Missouri - which is filled with puppymill and BYB and that she would ship a 10 week old pup :( |
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you should get the one that your heart goes to. chemistry is very important in getting a pet. there is lots of worked needed when you bring that puppy home, you will handle it a lot better if its something that your heart sets on. IMO, the second one does appear cuter with more standard yorkie features! |
but i know it's hard for you to decide... another thing to consider though, is that you don't want to get the puppy till it's at least 12 weeks old. i really think it's the best for you and for the dog. they need to be with their mommy and siblings until then to learn socialization, soft mouth,...etc.. so if you do decide to get the younger puppy, then it's best to wait till the puppy is older. i don't understand breeders that would let them go earlier than 12 weeks!? doesn't seem very responsible to let puppies go to new homes before they are ready. |
I am 100% sure this is not a puppymill. I am an attorney and looked up her business and home through diligent research. I also spoke to the Vets around her area, the Vets she uses, the local police station and the Sherrif's office. Also, I have spoken to over 5 refrences and I am completely happy with her as a breeder. As for the personality issue.....they are similar when she listed their personalities. The differences were minor to me so I did not bother to list them. The one thing she did make note of was that Lola was very confident and she had this attitude about her (not a bad thing she said). She couldnt give me a complete list on the new puppy since it was 2 weeks younger and those two weeks makes a difference in a dog. My cousins pup and my friends pup are the same and one purchased from a nearby store and the other got from a friend. They both act similiar and are wonderful pups but they too have certain characterisitics that are not the same. All I have been reading on these threads is if your dog does this and does your dog act this way and many people all agree that their dogs do or act a certain way. So, yes, I do believe dogs can be similar especially if brought up in the same house by the same person. Thank you everyone for your help!!! I am going to see what the Vet says. |
I went to your breeder site. It concerns me that they are on a 200 acre farm in Missouri and are licensed and inspected by the USDA. Also, they do not list any Health Guarantees on their pups and they don't show any of the parents. :( It seems they only breed 2 breeds, so that a plus. I hope it all works out... |
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I just read your post. Good for you for checking it all out. I am glad you feel comfortable with this breeder, so please disregard my above post :) |
They do have a health guarantee its in the contract. As a lawyer I would never take something without a contractual agreement. I did have the police department and sherrifs department go to their home and tell me what they knew about this breeder. Her sister does her website----and is not always on top of it. She will send you pics of the parents and she always tells you the bloodlines of each pup---the parents and grandparents as well. I understand you all want to protect Yorkies in everyway and not have them from puppymills and I do would never, but I did my research and she is a great breeder. Also, so many of you have gotten puppies less than 12 weeks and I never saw people complain about that. |
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USDA means she is a commerical breeder and one of the requirements is...dogs are kept in kennels outside of the home. |
I think it should be Health Then Temperament Then Look's but there are no Guarantees on look's, What if the new one grows up to not look like what you want? Look's shouldnt be number one at this age unless your showing. |
Well first of all if it is out in MO i would wonder if it is a Puppy Mill??:confused: |
I think that maybe you should go with the 2nd one, the new puppy. They are both adorable but it sounds like you are not too happy with the 1st one, Lola. Btw you really can't tell their personality just by looking at a pic, it may look mean and be the friendliest dog in the world. Also i would advice you to wait till the 2nd puppy is at least 12 weeks old before she ships her and also so that she can let her personality develop more, and let her spend more time with her mother. Taking them away from the mother too early can have negative effects on the dog's personality later on. |
Follow your heart, go with the new pup that you say you LOVE, and not with the one you "like" and have to learn to love. It is so hard to pick from pictures alone. Imagine how uncomfortable those puppies are being dressed up and posed. But, based on the pics alone I'd be choosing the new pup. I kinda think Lola's ears appear too wide-set for my preference, and she is a bit awkward looking at an age when most puppies are at their cutest. Now about the breeder, how did you find her, and are you comfortable that she is producing healthy puppies? That is much more important than looks. I also hate to think of a "too young" puppy being shipped, with weather being what it is now. Also, have you researched hypoglycemia in little puppies? Maybe the "sign" you need to see is that after losing out on 2 and maybe 3 pups from this breeder, just maybe you should be looking for a puppy closer to where you live so you can SEE it & play with it. Just my thoughts:) |
I think the new pup looks similar to Lola at 9 weeks. I’d guess that the new pup will look like Lola. So, looks may be irrelevant. Do you have a preference for full grown weight? If so, you could ask the breeder for a guesstimate for each pup. |
Oh my God, what an absolutely awful position to be in! That is soooo hard, I really feel for you girl! :hug: I know just how heart crushingly disapointing it is when your plans change at the last minute, it happened to me twice before I got my pup four weeks ago. Are you sure there are no other breeders you could go to and meet that're closer to you? It is always, hands down, better to meet the breeder, parents and the pup before you bring him/her into your home. Shipping a puppy you've never met is such a risky business, you could probably sue the hell outtsa them if they lied to you about anything or something goes drastically wrwong, but that wont mend your broken heart. What I find so confusing and unpredictable is just how little you can tell what a Yorkie adult will look like as a pup. More often than not they change a LOT. Totally hard to work out! lol Also, I know how hard it is to wait, but 12 weeks really should be the minimum age for a puppy to leave their Mother/siblings. It is time they will never get back and is sooooo worth it in the end, honestly. It means you will end up with a more well adjusted, happy, confident dog. I know it is hard to wait, and some breeders aren't prepared to keep them that long, but you will not regret it if you wait, where as you might well refret it if you take that 8 week old pup home. I realise what everyone is saying probably seems like an attack, but it's not. We just want to see you with the healthiest, best suited puppy. We're completely behind you, I promise. ;) I hope your decision is not too hard and that once made you feel better and happy about it. Let us know what you do, wont you? ;) :D Cant wait to hear! Jess :heart to |
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