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orinskye · 01-28-2005, 03:58 PM

my friend told me that toby has what is called a babydoll face.....

...... what in the world is a babdoll face and why is it so highly "desireable"????

Christi · 01-28-2005, 07:00 PM

That's what I have been told about P.J. too. I think it is just another one of those terms that they use like teacup, tiny toy, etc. When I purchased P.J., both terms were used - baby doll face and teacup. Since, I am going for the "smaller size" yorkies, that's what I desired. But as for the desirability of the entire breed itself, I am not positive. I have heard that people charge more for when those desciptions are used.

yorkipower · 01-29-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Christi

That's what I have been told about P.J. too. I think it is just another one of those terms that they use like teacup, tiny toy, etc. When I purchased P.J., both terms were used - baby doll face and teacup. Since, I am going for the "smaller size" yorkies, that's what I desired. But as for the desirability of the entire breed itself, I am not positive. I have heard that people charge more for when those desciptions are used.

Christi is exactly right. Sorry to say but its another one of those "marketing" terms. There's nothing in the standard about "babydoll" faces. If a Yorkies face is too short (has very little "stop" and too short muzzel - its actually considered a fault) but these teacup breeders advertise to people who want "cutsie" fashion items so they add things like "Micro mini, baby doll, tiny darlings" in their ads. Dosen't make your dog any less of a gem though!

kindness_001 · 01-29-2005, 04:22 PM

Breeders breed fopr what they call a babydoll face the yorkie has a shorter nose than the straight faced yorkies. Trying to find another pic to show you the diff.Bobo here has the dollbabyface. they both are cute Yorkies some just like these better.

lucynfred · 01-29-2005, 04:58 PM

The person who sold me Luca Dean also used the "babydoll face" term. the AKC standard does call for a short muzzle and ears that stand up straight instead of out (like bat ears). Any yorkie looks like a babydoll to me, but I guess breeders use it as a way of making the puppy sound special.

She didn't call my yorkie a teacup though!!! She said, "His brother was smaller, but he didn't have the babydoll face and his coat wasn't as pretty." She sold Luca Dean's brother for $275 more nonetheless, because he was smaller. Other breeders may have sold Luca Dean for more because he comes closer to the standard than his brother ever would have -- coat, size, proper muzzle, etc.

orinskye · 01-29-2005, 05:23 PM

thanks kindness i was aware that it was a marketing term to sell them (i got a good deal nonethe less and the breeders did not say he had a babydoll face, my friend was the one who pointed that out......) what i was really after was what it really was 'supposed' to mean..... and kindness you gave me a good description of what it is

Thanks to you all...... i was a little lost on this one.... i figured a face was just a face

YorkieRose · 01-29-2005, 06:27 PM

A babydoll face is a very short, pushed in muzzle..the correct Yorkie head is terrier as opposed to a doll face..but they are so cute...usually a doll face is found on a smaller Yorkie.

kindness_001 · 01-29-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lucynfred

The person who sold me Luca Dean also used the "babydoll face" term. the AKC standard does call for a short muzzle and ears that stand up straight instead of out (like bat ears). Any yorkie looks like a babydoll to me, but I guess breeders use it as a way of making the puppy sound special.

She didn't call my yorkie a teacup though!!! She said, "His brother was smaller, but he didn't have the babydoll face and his coat wasn't as pretty." She sold Luca Dean's brother for $275 more nonetheless, because he was smaller. Other breeders may have sold Luca Dean for more because he comes closer to the standard than his brother ever would have -- coat, size, proper muzzle, etc.

Usually the smaller the yorkie the higher it sells . I've seen them go for 1500 -2000.

Gracie'sMommy · 01-29-2005, 07:33 PM

My breeder told me there are three types of faces...bear, baby doll and wolf. I have seen too many wolf Yorkies and knew I didn't want that one. I'm not really sure of the difference between bear and baby doll because my baby doll looks like a little teddy bear! So who knows?

Hannah · 01-30-2005, 11:00 AM

undefinedJackson does have a baby-doll face. I don't think he is considered a small yorkie as his latest weight is 5.7 lbs at 6 mos. Hw has a short muzzle and I have seen the other type with the long muzzle which does not appeal to me as much- just p

ersonal preference.

LilyBelle · 03-04-2005, 06:54 AM

Lily Belle is said to have a BabyDoll Face -- I didn't pay extra for it, but my breeder sure was quick to point it out.

I think the BabyDoll refers to their short muzzle -- not the breed standard, but desirable nonetheless.

luvdorkyyorkies · 03-04-2005, 07:18 AM

Dont laugh......."how about a monkey face?"
Now I never heard of this term but a breeder I bought a dog off used this term. I asked if the muzzle was long or short, and she replied "well to best describe the face of my dogs is a "monkey face"
I said "WHat?" Then I got laughing cause it struck me funny. SHe laughed it up too. You know I went and viewed her dogs and bought three, thru a couple years.. ONe without a monkey face......lol.
She isnt computer savvy so she doesnt frequent forums, etc.........but the lady is a hoot!
You know they do have a look of those tiny monkeys to them. TIny boned and really to short of a muzzle....but they are cuties! I like their look alot, their my favorite.
I just had to share this with you.....still makes me smile to think of that conversation.

Milo · 03-04-2005, 07:51 AM

While still looking for a yorkie pup, I have run into that term so much. Usually priced higher for the 'babydoll' face. I cannot tell a big difference between the babydoll and teddybear faces. I guess I'll have to wait til Milo is a grown up to see what kind of face he'll have.

Hannah · 03-04-2005, 08:02 AM

I paid the going rate in NY which is $1800. Jackson has a very short muzzle and I had almost bought a different Yorkie, from another breeder, that had the long muzzle, and he wanted only $700 (also from NY). He claimed they were bred in Ireland by a vet who happens to also be his daughter. I think it was a scam. My kids said the Yorkie looked like a toy Airedale! I like the babydoll face, but my breeder said show standard is the longer muzzle!

01-28-2005, 03:58 PM	#1
orinskye YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,990	babydoll face my friend told me that toby has what is called a babydoll face..... ...... what in the world is a babdoll face and why is it so highly "desireable"????

01-29-2005, 04:22 PM	#4
kindness_001 Yorkies LUV never grows old Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Owensville,In.47665 Posts: 889	Breeders breed fopr what they call a babydoll face the yorkie has a shorter nose than the straight faced yorkies. Trying to find another pic to show you the diff.Bobo here has the dollbabyface. they both are cute Yorkies some just like these better. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Megan, Killer, Cocoa Latte, and Ebony Lousie

01-29-2005, 06:27 PM	#7
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	faces A babydoll face is a very short, pushed in muzzle..the correct Yorkie head is terrier as opposed to a doll face..but they are so cute...usually a doll face is found on a smaller Yorkie.

01-30-2005, 11:00 AM	#10
Hannah YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 310	Jackson and his face undefinedJackson does have a baby-doll face. I don't think he is considered a small yorkie as his latest weight is 5.7 lbs at 6 mos. Hw has a short muzzle and I have seen the other type with the long muzzle which does not appeal to me as much- just p ersonal preference.

03-04-2005, 06:54 AM	#11
LilyBelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 91	Lily Belle is said to have a BabyDoll Face -- I didn't pay extra for it, but my breeder sure was quick to point it out. I think the BabyDoll refers to their short muzzle -- not the breed standard, but desirable nonetheless. __________________ Thanks so much! Kisses! Angelena & Lily Belle

01-28-2005, 07:00 PM	#2
Christi Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 32	That's what I have been told about P.J. too. I think it is just another one of those terms that they use like teacup, tiny toy, etc. When I purchased P.J., both terms were used - baby doll face and teacup. Since, I am going for the "smaller size" yorkies, that's what I desired. But as for the desirability of the entire breed itself, I am not positive. I have heard that people charge more for when those desciptions are used.

01-29-2005, 04:58 PM	#5
lucynfred Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tuscaloosa Posts: 199	The person who sold me Luca Dean also used the "babydoll face" term. the AKC standard does call for a short muzzle and ears that stand up straight instead of out (like bat ears). Any yorkie looks like a babydoll to me, but I guess breeders use it as a way of making the puppy sound special. She didn't call my yorkie a teacup though!!! She said, "His brother was smaller, but he didn't have the babydoll face and his coat wasn't as pretty." She sold Luca Dean's brother for $275 more nonetheless, because he was smaller. Other breeders may have sold Luca Dean for more because he comes closer to the standard than his brother ever would have -- coat, size, proper muzzle, etc.

01-29-2005, 05:23 PM	#6
orinskye YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,990	thanks kindness i was aware that it was a marketing term to sell them (i got a good deal nonethe less and the breeders did not say he had a babydoll face, my friend was the one who pointed that out......) what i was really after was what it really was 'supposed' to mean..... and kindness you gave me a good description of what it is Thanks to you all...... i was a little lost on this one.... i figured a face was just a face

01-29-2005, 07:33 PM	#9
Gracie'sMommy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 191	My breeder told me there are three types of faces...bear, baby doll and wolf. I have seen too many wolf Yorkies and knew I didn't want that one. I'm not really sure of the difference between bear and baby doll because my baby doll looks like a little teddy bear! So who knows?

03-04-2005, 07:18 AM	#12
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Dont laugh......."how about a monkey face?" Now I never heard of this term but a breeder I bought a dog off used this term. I asked if the muzzle was long or short, and she replied "well to best describe the face of my dogs is a "monkey face" I said "WHat?" Then I got laughing cause it struck me funny. SHe laughed it up too. You know I went and viewed her dogs and bought three, thru a couple years.. ONe without a monkey face......lol. She isnt computer savvy so she doesnt frequent forums, etc.........but the lady is a hoot! You know they do have a look of those tiny monkeys to them. TIny boned and really to short of a muzzle....but they are cuties! I like their look alot, their my favorite. I just had to share this with you.....still makes me smile to think of that conversation.

03-04-2005, 07:51 AM	#13
Milo Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: California Posts: 160	While still looking for a yorkie pup, I have run into that term so much. Usually priced higher for the 'babydoll' face. I cannot tell a big difference between the babydoll and teddybear faces. I guess I'll have to wait til Milo is a grown up to see what kind of face he'll have. __________________ Makenna Mae (aka; Milos Mamma)

03-04-2005, 08:02 AM	#14
Hannah YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 310	Babydoll and price I paid the going rate in NY which is $1800. Jackson has a very short muzzle and I had almost bought a different Yorkie, from another breeder, that had the long muzzle, and he wanted only $700 (also from NY). He claimed they were bred in Ireland by a vet who happens to also be his daughter. I think it was a scam. My kids said the Yorkie looked like a toy Airedale! I like the babydoll face, but my breeder said show standard is the longer muzzle!