Golden Yorkies, Parti Yorkies, Chocolate Yorkies, this concerns me. Take a look.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

The Biewers originated from the same German line, originating from 2 standard yorkies and *should* be traceable back to that line. Currently there is a standard regarding placement of the colors, whereas "partis" do not. (Although if you want to get technical, "parties" don't really have a standard at all, so...) That's the answer ina nutshell, assuming you aren't interested in being assaulted with various Biewer websites all promoting their own varying adapted points of view.

LOL....

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Hmmm, no. An AKC registered yorkie with a color variant is, indeed, a purebreed.

Very true. They are recognized by AKC for registration purposes...just not breed standard purposes.
But I'm sure many times those off-standard being advertised as 'rare' are truthfully NOT 100% yorkie.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

LOL....

Well it's the truth, ain't it? Sometimes people just want a simple answer.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Very true. They are recognized by AKC for registration purposes...just not breed standard purposes.
But I'm sure many times those off-standard being advertised as 'rare' are truthfully NOT 100% yorkie.

It's certainly a possibility if one is purchasing a puppy that is registered with some of the alternative registries. That is not to say I haven't seen AKC registered yorkies that are not good representations of the breed.

The real debate boils down to whether one thinks someone should breed against the standard....although to be quite honest...there are plenty of "standard" yorkies who are no where close to the standard.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Well it's the truth, ain't it? Sometimes people just want a simple answer.

Ssssh..someone might hear you.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Some yorkies have a recessive piebald gene; they look like regular yorkies except for some subtle things. If you breed two of these Yorkies together with the recessive piebald gene, some of the off spring will have white coloration on it, in no particular pattern. The Biewer Yorkshire Terrier was created this way, but taken several steps further, and the white coloration has to be in specific areas. The Biewer breeders are trying to get classified as a separate category in the AKC.

See my avatar those are parti yorkies. Nothing subtle about it.

The piebald gene is just one of the many unusual (odd) (rare) recessive genes that can show up in yorkies. They YTCA says not to breed for those traits. However if people had not bred for specific traits years ago we would not even have yorkshire terriers today.

If people like and desire the off colors why should the YTCA care. Many other breed clubs allow a variety of colors in the breed. It has nothing to do with the dtraditional standard colored yorkies.

However I do not like that site, They start out by saying they are a SMALL private kennel and then they list ALL of the dogs that they sell. Something is wrong with that picture.

Speaking of pictures all of the pictures of the puppies, have been cut and pasted onto the props.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Very true. They are recognized by AKC for registration purposes...just not breed standard purposes.
But I'm sure many times those off-standard being advertised as 'rare' are truthfully NOT 100% yorkie.

That is very true, and that is why it is important to research the breeder. I would not buy a parti colored yorkie if I wasn't comfortable with the breeder and the line that they came from.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

That is very true, and that is why it is important to research the breeder. I would not buy a parti colored yorkie if I wasn't comfortable with the breeder and the line that they came from.

Agreed! As should be the case with ANY breeder, and ANY breed.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by mscat

Basicly, the other off color "yorkies" "designer breed" are in reality just a mix .

That is not true. the first parti colored puppies, in the line that mine are from, came from two traditional colored yorkies, the sire was CH Rolls Royce Ashley from nikko kennels

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

The Biewers originated from the same German line, originating from 2 standard yorkies and *should* be traceable back to that line. Currently there is a standard regarding placement of the colors, whereas "partis" do not. (Although if you want to get technical, "parties" don't really have a standard at all, so...) That's the answer ina nutshell, assuming you aren't interested in being assaulted with various Biewer websites all promoting their own varying adapted points of view.

There is no standard for the parti color because a breed club has not yet been established to set a standard and the YTCA won't recognize them. At one time there was not standard for the Original yorkie either, until the YTCA set one. Which BTW has changed over the years, and can change again.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

That is very true, and that is why it is important to research the breeder. I would not buy a parti colored yorkie if I wasn't comfortable with the breeder and the line that they came from.

I agree with you....have to feel comfortable with your breeder and the lines of your dog....no matter what the color is.

Tammy

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

There is no standard for the parti color because a breed club has not yet been established to set a standard and the YTCA won't recognize them. At one time there was not standard for the Original yorkie either, until the YTCA set one. Which BTW has changed over the years, and can change again.

Understood...didn't mean that as a dig against them. Just that by comparison, at this point, there is a standard for color placement w/ Biewers, but not w/ Partis...just 3 colors w/ no specifics as to "where". (right?) That was it.

Do you think AKC will ever recognize a 'breed' club for off-standard colored Yorkies when technically, they are the same 'breed?' (Or is there hope that the YTCA will eventually change to allow it?) Would the only difference in standard be the 3 colors, with all else the same? (Or *should* it be in your opinion?)

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

There is no standard for the parti color because a breed club has not yet been established to set a standard and the YTCA won't recognize them. At one time there was not standard for the Original yorkie either, until the YTCA set one. Which BTW has changed over the years, and can change again.

True, such as the recent addition of allowing a white patch on the chest.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

I agree with you....have to feel comfortable with your breeder and the lines of your dog....no matter what the color is.

Tammy

Tammy I love the saying you chose under your name in your avatar. Its cute and I hadnt noticed it before

[Dreamer74]

My question would be why the change of names and two different opperating websites?