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Old 07-29-2008, 06:52 AM   #46
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My question would be why the change of names and two different opperating websites?
LOL..you confused me for a minute, and then I realized you were responding to the actual original topic of the thread. What a novel idea!
Clearly the website is a bit on the shady side, imo.
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Tammy I love the saying you chose under your name in your avatar. Its cute and I hadnt noticed it before
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My question would be why the change of names and two different opperating websites?
I had kind of wondered the same thing.
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Understood...didn't mean that as a dig against them. Just that by comparison, at this point, there is a standard for color placement w/ Biewers, but not w/ Partis...just 3 colors w/ no specifics as to "where". (right?) That was it.

Do you think AKC will ever recognize a 'breed' club for off-standard colored Yorkies when technically, they are the same 'breed?' (Or is there hope that the YTCA will eventually change to allow it?) Would the only difference in standard be the 3 colors, with all else the same? (Or *should* it be in your opinion?)
Do you mean in reference to partis? I would guess if the parent club, YTCA, who developed the standard...decided to change the standard then these dogs could be shown in confirmation events. They wouldn't ever be accepted as a seperate breed unless AKC changed their present rules... a color variation of an already recognized breed disqualifies them.

As far as biewers...I'm not sure it will ever happen. To have a breed accepted by AKC...they must be accepted into AKC's Foundation Stock Service Program. There are many rules and regulations in order to qualify.
One obstacle I see...the breed must be presently registered with a AKC recognized foreign or domestic registry and there simply isn't one on the list that specifies biewers.

More info on the fss program - Foundation Stock ServiceŽ Program

Then again...everything is subject to change.
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I had kind of wondered the same thing.
The second site specifically says...formerly known as Cajun Kennels.
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Understood...didn't mean that as a dig against them. Just that by comparison, at this point, there is a standard for color placement w/ Biewers, but not w/ Partis...just 3 colors w/ no specifics as to "where". (right?) That was it.

Do you think AKC will ever recognize a 'breed' club for off-standard colored Yorkies when technically, they are the same 'breed?' (Or is there hope that the YTCA will eventually change to allow it?) Would the only difference in standard be the 3 colors, with all else the same? (Or *should* it be in your opinion?)
There is hope thatone of the above will happen. As for me peresonally, I would like to see a club started whether the AKC recognizes it, for showing purposes, or not. A club could be founded, and a standard set, that way breeders would havwe something to aim for, and it might help to get it recognized by the AKC.

I find it amusing that we are told that we cannot start our own breed, because they are "just yorkies" yet the YTCA won't recognize them as yorkies. and many people insist that they are mixed.
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The second site specifically says...formerly known as Cajun Kennels.
So she only uses the Cajun Kennels name? Off-topic a little....when a person has the word, 'kennel', in their name doesn't that typically imply a large breeding program? If so, why do people use this term??

(Just thinkin' out loud, I suppose)

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True, such as the recent addition of allowing a white patch on the chest.
LOL Gee wonder where that white patch came from.
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So she only uses the Cajun Kennels name? Off-topic a little....when a person has the word, 'kennel', in their name doesn't that typically imply a large breeding program? If so, why do people use this term??

(Just thinkin' out loud, I suppose)

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not neccessarily.......i know the the Biewer Club IBC requires a kennel name to be a member....(no im not a member) ...i know some breeders who are though and they had to change their websites to be allowed to join....so they added the word kennel to their names
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There is hope thatone of the above will happen. As for me peresonally, I would like to see a club started whether the AKC recognizes it, for showing purposes, or not. A club could be founded, and a standard set, that way breeders would havwe something to aim for, and it might help to get it recognized by the AKC.

I find it amusing that we are told that we cannot start our own breed, because they are "just yorkies" yet the YTCA won't recognize them as yorkies. and many people insist that they are mixed.
Ahhhh, the idea of showing....Livi has the attitude and has been dreaming of this. I finally had to break down and tell her that YTCA says that she can't.
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So she only uses the Cajun Kennels name? Off-topic a little....when a person has the word, 'kennel', in their name doesn't that typically imply a large breeding program? If so, why do people use this term??

(Just thinkin' out loud, I suppose)

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Went back and looked...those are two different breeder's websites. The first is located in Lousiana and the second in Oklahoma.

Interesting side note - the second breeder lists her parti sire's pedigree back to Nikkos CH Rolls Royce.
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not neccessarily.......i know the the Biewer Club IBC requires a kennel name to be a member....(no im not a member) ...i know some breeders who are though and they had to change their websites to be allowed to join....so they added the word kennel to their names
Gotcha...I didn't know this about the Biewers.
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I think there is some confusion...

...between having a "kennel" and having the actual word "kennel" when referring to your breeding practice.

"Kennel" meaning a practice where dogs are housed, outside in 'units,' lots and lots of dogs. (Yeah, not a good thing.)

Or "Kennel" as in XYZ Kennels only referring to the name of the breeding program but not neccessarily meaning where the dogs are house or raised.


I may be wrong, but I think the IBC requires you have have a "name" for your program, but it does not have to have the word "kennel" within the name?


Geez...I don't know how to word it so that it makes sense...
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There's a sucker born every minute. A parti Yorkie isn't supposed to be anything. It's a color fault
I have a Parti and I really do take offense to some of the talk about them that is getting to be on this forum. Like the ones above. I love my Boy just as much if not more than any of you, HE IS A YORKIE, He was out of 2 registered AKC parents and is Registered AKC. If this is all some can find to nit pick about maybe I need to find another forum.
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I have a Parti and I really do take offense to some of the talk about them that is getting to be on this forum. Like the ones above. I love my Boy just as much if not more than any of you, HE IS A YORKIE, He was out of 2 registered AKC parents and is Registered AKC. If this is all some can find to nit pick about maybe I need to find another forum.
Here is the parti yorkie that I spoke of...he is a BEAUTIFUL yorkie. This little baby stole my heart the other day. WONDERFUL
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