What Is A Biewer and a Parti Yorkie? - Page 4 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Pruett · 07-04-2008, 04:04 PM

Your exact words.
I myself have always treated the Biewer as a breed of its own.
After breeding true for over 20 years, this breed was well on its way to being established.

I will repeat that it has not been breeding true for 20 years.
I said Mr. Biewer bred His Yorkies with His Biewers up to the end. Do you know how old Sissi is? Surely your pedigree research professional would know that. Her mother is a Yorkie. This is all breeding done at the end, not just the beginning.

The majority of the dogs being shown with NACK do not fit the standard being used. I happen to like 3 colors in the head also, but so many of the dogs have 2 colors in their head and they are quite stunning. Half of Mr. and Mrs. Biewer's dogs had 2 colored heads.
I'm curious as to why when you publicize a bad experience you have had, you are helping the Biewer community?
When Ilona warns people, she's a horrible, hysterical, trouble maker? How do you differentiate between your warning people, and us warning people. I really don't understand where you are coming from.

We have never said anything about anyone without documentation, so how is that bashing?

simonandhallie · 07-04-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorksmama

I was wondering how a biewer and how a parti yorkie comes about? Are they also pure bred Yorkshire Terriers?

Just a reminder, this was the original question posted by a fairly new member just looking for more information.

Please take your debates/arguments/disagreements elsewhere (privately would be nice).

Thanks~

Pruett · 07-05-2008, 06:01 AM

Sorry, I was trying to educate not debate.
We have documentation on the difference between the Yorkshire Terrier and the Biewer Terrier and was presenting facts on how the Biewer Terrier has progressed.
There are so many trying to educate the public, with very few facts.

cesar49 · 07-05-2008, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pruett

Sorry, I was trying to educate not debate.
We have documentation on the difference between the Yorkshire Terrier and the Biewer Terrier and was presenting facts on how the Biewer Terrier has progressed.
There are so many trying to educate the public, with very few facts.

thank you for the information.. i find it very interesting and educational..
biewers are obviously a source for debate. all the biewer breeders need to find common ground

Pruett · 07-05-2008, 07:49 AM

The Biewers are a fascinating breed and really shouldn't be that big of an issue. When documented facts are presented, what's to debate? I don't think the problems have much to do with the dog itself at all. JMHO

The original Parti Yorkies were traced back to the same kennel that Mr. and Mrs. Biewer acquired Darling and Fru Fru from. They bought 4 dogs from them but only the two produced dogs with a lot of white. It has also been proven that the Streamglen kennel also raised Shih Tzu's.
This is what I find interesting: Five years ago when you saw these parti Yorkies, they were just Yokies with white on them, no pattern to the coloring and very washed out looking. Now in the last couple of years, they are looking just like our Biewers. HMMMMM

sierrapups · 07-05-2008, 08:24 AM

Is there a section on this forum for debates? I was wondering because it is always better to hear both sides of a debate and the facts out front rather than have them hidden in private. I'm sure the issue of partis and Biewers will come up over and over again. People need to know the facts. Can you imagine if our presidential canidates held their debates behind closed doors? LOL.

07-04-2008, 04:04 PM	#46
Pruett BANNED! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 209	Your exact words. I myself have always treated the Biewer as a breed of its own. After breeding true for over 20 years, this breed was well on its way to being established. I will repeat that it has not been breeding true for 20 years. I said Mr. Biewer bred His Yorkies with His Biewers up to the end. Do you know how old Sissi is? Surely your pedigree research professional would know that. Her mother is a Yorkie. This is all breeding done at the end, not just the beginning. The majority of the dogs being shown with NACK do not fit the standard being used. I happen to like 3 colors in the head also, but so many of the dogs have 2 colors in their head and they are quite stunning. Half of Mr. and Mrs. Biewer's dogs had 2 colored heads. I'm curious as to why when you publicize a bad experience you have had, you are helping the Biewer community? When Ilona warns people, she's a horrible, hysterical, trouble maker? How do you differentiate between your warning people, and us warning people. I really don't understand where you are coming from. We have never said anything about anyone without documentation, so how is that bashing?

07-05-2008, 06:01 AM	#48
Pruett BANNED! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 209	Sorry, I was trying to educate not debate. We have documentation on the difference between the Yorkshire Terrier and the Biewer Terrier and was presenting facts on how the Biewer Terrier has progressed. There are so many trying to educate the public, with very few facts.

07-05-2008, 07:49 AM	#50
Pruett BANNED! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 209	The Biewers are a fascinating breed and really shouldn't be that big of an issue. When documented facts are presented, what's to debate? I don't think the problems have much to do with the dog itself at all. JMHO The original Parti Yorkies were traced back to the same kennel that Mr. and Mrs. Biewer acquired Darling and Fru Fru from. They bought 4 dogs from them but only the two produced dogs with a lot of white. It has also been proven that the Streamglen kennel also raised Shih Tzu's. This is what I find interesting: Five years ago when you saw these parti Yorkies, they were just Yokies with white on them, no pattern to the coloring and very washed out looking. Now in the last couple of years, they are looking just like our Biewers. HMMMMM

07-05-2008, 08:24 AM	#51
sierrapups Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California Posts: 104	Is there a section on this forum for debates? I was wondering because it is always better to hear both sides of a debate and the facts out front rather than have them hidden in private. I'm sure the issue of partis and Biewers will come up over and over again. People need to know the facts. Can you imagine if our presidential canidates held their debates behind closed doors? LOL.