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YorkieK9trainer, Are you ever near Frankfort, Mokeena, New Lenox, Orland Park, or Tinley Park? Basically the S.W. Suburbs. |
Sure am! That's less than an hour drive (depending on traffic) for me. |
Training should have come long before all this happened. :thumbup::thumbup: |
Training for me or the original poster? Atleast in my case I dealt with the problem B4 it got too bad. As soon as Roxy got hurt at all I knew something had to be done ASAP. That is why she is at my Father inlaws. I only have 2 girls not 8 or more like the original poster that had 3 deaths. This is about all I can handle. |
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response to some of the threads i would like to thank everyone who has posted their opionins...but i am a responsable breeder and she killed booboo when she was in heat and rambo had cancer and we had to put him down and kermie she killed also. i never thought after the attack that it would happen again. she has babies right now and was being protective and it went to far. she has never bit a child...i have children!!! lollie has been seperated from all the rest of my furbutts and that is how it will stay from now on. i have 14 spoiled furbratz that all sleep with me and have never had this happen in the 10 yrs i have been breeding. i would not put her to sleep unless she had a health issue. i will be having her spayed when her babies are weened. |
Wait a minute the dog in question has puppies and she's 8 years old? WHAT! tyty |
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My understanding she killed before being breed, Okay now I'm truly confused. I got shot a link about yorkie breeding and sorry that's kind of old to be having puppies. And she's killed before. |
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response okay i have now read all the post and let me tell you my side...for 1 i just lost a fur child and have not been on here to repond because i have been busy!!!!!!! she didn't kill 3 it was 2...not that thats any better..but i am not sure she killed boo boo i just asumed it because she is the agressive one out of the bunch and they were outside going potty when it happend!!!! rambo had cancer and had to be put down. did i witness the killing NO!!!!!!!!!! i am asumming it was her because i know how she is. i'm not keeping her because i breed her it is because i love her and all my fur kidz!!!!!!! my dogs went outside to go potty and it happend!!!!!why do some of you feel beeing rude and bit**ing is what this thread needed? and i have no reason to have to defend myself to any of yall complaining that i was in the wrong!!!!!! yes i am a groomer...an excellent groomer and i don't have her around any of them or when i dog sit. i won't be getting rid of any of my dogs they are my fur kids and i realy don't care what some of you think...you have not been in that situaion and it could happen to anyone and i did not think she would go to that extreme...but no i did not see it....there was not a mark on either of them.nowhere!!!! and none were sick or had any health problems. so it has to be her. she will not be around them again! i take care of my dogs and don't like people saying i don't! i had people here buying a puppy when it happend. i let them out and answered the door and went to let them back in and about 15 minutes later to show the people the parents of the baby they wanted and saw him laying on the deck...i was heart broken. they were barking when the people were here and didn't here and dogs fighting so i think it was her because she is the leader here and i am keeping her seperated so it don't happen again. i don't need to defend myself and was not avoiding answering anything...this is the first i have been on here in a few days. i have a vet tech that works for me and all my dogs are taken care of 100% and i'm sorry some of you feel that i did something wrong...i would of never thought that would happen. but i know it won't again i promise you that. |
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I personally would not breed an 8 yr old dog and also have talked to quite a few Vets about it since my Roxy will be 5 this year. Out of all of them only two country Vets said as long as the dog is in good health it is OK to breed until 8 or 9 tops. All of the rest of them were from the Chgoland area & SW Suburbs said to stop at 6 yrs. at the very latest. I think it's time you give your poor Lolly a rest & have her Spayed. I'm glad you have made that discission. Then I think you should contact yorkieK9trainer & take her up on her offer. |
I was writing my post when you posted your 2nd response. So Boo didn't have a mark on him? Then what about Kermie? were you present then? Sorry if you stated it already & I missed it. |
answer not a mark on either of them. what could she have done without putting a mark on him? the vet said she could of broke his neck by grabbing him...but like i said i did not see it happen. my yard is fenced and i have decks and pool and i let them out to go potty and went to let them back in and thats what i found....it has to be her....none of the others are as protective as her...her babies are in the house while they are outside. i'm not taking any chances if it is her. i thought there might have been poisen some where or spider bite...i thought of everything...not know is the hardest....and thinking its her is too. |
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so reread and see how this could have gotten all mixed up. |
I am so sorry that any of this happened to your babies and to you. I would also like to say that I don't think I would have made a post like that and stayed away from the forum for a few days. That was a pretty provocative post that would make many want to respond. I think it started going a bit south because there was no input from you. It would have helped, I think. It is a fearsome thing to have an animal that kills your other animals. It provokes deep feelings in folks. I am not making excuses for anyone. I just think it was an emotional post and drew out emotional responses. All the best to you and your babies. I do hope that you are successful in keeping her separate from the others and are able to avert further tragedy, for them and for yourself. What a nightmarish experience! |
I know this is a difficult situation for you. Maybe you should still reach out to YorkieK9trainer to maybe evaluate her...it's awfully nice to offer free services...wouldn't hurt. Maybe she didn't do it but if you're saying you know she the aggressor of the bunch, it wouldn't hurt to see what her probabilities are or may be in the future. You've had her for so long and I would hate to think she has to be locked away from everyone after being used to being with everyone, including sleeping in the bed with you like everyone else, especially if her problem can be evaluated and fixed. Just a thought! I wish you the best of luck! |
I apologize for thinking it might have been a hoax. I was negligent in checking to see if you were a regular poster. I trulley am sorry. As for your girl; you know her best, and if you think she caused this, she probably did. After reading your response though, it seems there may have been reasons for the attacks. I had visions of little dogs being ripped up badly by a vicious female, that was not the case. The first time the whole pack was overly excited by someone at the door, and it could have been an accident. The second time she was probably defending her puppies. I still think she is overly aggressive; but working with a trainer might be the ticket to save her, and neutering her will definetly take her out of her position as head of the pack. Good luck, and please accept my apology. Sherry |
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OK everybody calmmm downnn. Myyorkies is back in the loop, I think that may have been causing a lot of the angst in this thread. Don't throw a whopper then bail out, the questions keep building until people are throwing stones. I know you were upset and needed consoling and answers. However this really upsets anyone who loves animals. 1st she's not too old but she is getting there so it would be good to retire her. Obviously Lolley is a very devoted mom. I work with wild animals (primates) and I know that a female, especially a dominant female, will not hesitate to defend her babies to the death. Can't say that about Lolley because there is no direct evidence that she did it. 2nd, keep new moms, especially dominant moms, segregated with their pups until they are at least two weeks old. Why ask for trouble? It's good for mom and baby bonding. Even then only allow trusted females with them. Lolley will probably (hopefully) be a very good aunt to the other pups. I do not think it is a good idea to let the males with the pups. They don't offer anything useful, they get annoyed with the pups which pisses mom and aunts off. No offense but the guys are only good for making babies they do nothing when it comes to raising babies. I am totally serious about this but I am trying to make light. There is no big happy family when it comes to animals. Keep the males around to show perspective buyers but keep them away from mom until the kids are weaned. Your original post was quite atrocious and it wasn't until you came back and explained that it was your assumption that Lolley killed them. Not many people follow my advice because I work with monkeys but they could cure most of the worlds ills if people would only listened. Good luck, I hope Lolley makes a fine aunt. Melissa and Rambeau (I never met a monkey didn't like, then again, I never met a monkey :D) |
Wow>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never knew a yorkie could kill another dog , I am still in doubt myself.... I can not understand why the person that started did thinks her lollie killed the other 2 that died suddenlly... wouldn't she hear them fighting at least? To kill a dog is not easy, would it be a battle????? i think she is looking at the wrong "killer" poison would be my first guess, but anyways: DID YOU GET A OUTOPSY done??????? it could tell you something.... i hear about a dog that died suddenlly of some intestinal complication i can not spell but something like this"intussusception" or closed to that, suden and silent... i do not know the person who lost the dog, but from who i heard i can assure it happened and it was a young yorkie healthy apparently.... I think more investigating could have being done.... anyways i really want to find out: Anyone else ever saw or know of a "killer yorkie" I want to know. |
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I have a female that is a little bigger and older than Ritz and Shellie. She has become a big bully and I absolutely have to keep her seperated at all times from my small dogs. I am almost positive she picked and killed my tiny shih tzu female when I was away having my baby. She attacked and would have killed my ritzy had I not caught her and she would kill every chicken I owned if I let her run with them. I have noticed that the majority of her attacks come when she was in heat in her younger years. I have since gotten her spayed but, it hasnt helped. I jsut cannot trust her . I would hate to re-home her not because I am selfish but I dont want her to hurt anyone or anything in her new home. We have learned how to deal with her and although it is not hte perfect situation I think it is the best solution we can come up with. SHe loves to be with my daughters Older male Shih Tzu so that is who she is with when the other dogs ar getting their attention |
I think the problem here is we were told one thing and now that there is negative response we are told another. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all could call in a dog trainer and do you think it will happen here? In lots of cases like this (not saying this person would or would not) but since being honest can't get them a re-home, they sell the dog and never tell the new owner what has happened to the dogs in their home. I sure hope that doesn't happen here. I think she said she is keeping the female :confused: I'm out of here and going on a 12 step program to keep me out of this thread:) |
It seems to me after having read all the posts by her that she has a lot of dogs 14 I think she said, and was keeping this one to breed with. She is having pups at 8 yo! I'm no breeder, but that seems too old to me. I bet after she gets the dog spayed after this last litter she will rehome her, because it seems to me she only kept her for breeding in the first place, otherwise why would she put her health above the health of the other dogs? I hope no one buys those pups from her. She doesn't need to stay in business. If she is not more responsible than this with the adults, I don't trust her with the pups! |
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