You know of other yorkies that have killed?

Well if you can help her...god bless you. Maybe you should try to PM her in case she doesn't post a reply anymore.... This is so heartbreaking and I am speechless..:(

Yes, but many owners (and this is not intended to make the original poster feel bad) come to me before things escalate to that severity. Many tend to come to me when their dogs continually get into fights with one another, or simply show dog aggression to other dogs outside of the home or one has caused an injury to another.

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I disagree with you...not because it may be possible to retrain a killer, anything is possible... but who would want to take the chance...one who pees on my floor can do nothing but make a mess, carpets are replaceable... one who is that aggressive may kill my other pets...that is a too risky for me to chance...

For such a young girl you really sound so grown up and intelligent with your posts.. your caring.. you read a lot of posts and learn a lot.. I think you did a wonderful post megan...anne

I agree! If she had hurt another dog and not her own we wouldn't be having this discussion, she'd have been pts.

What a tragedy. I have to agree with Megan on this one. My father had a gs/collie mix. Looked like a long haired gs. He was great in the beginning (dad got him 2 months after mom died and they were joined at the hip) but then one day....he snapped. he killed anything he could get to. Squirrels, a small dog, and then my kitten in my kitchen on thanksgiving night. That was the end of it. Dad (with a broken heart) gave him up to be pts. He had tried to bite me and my kids several times as well. Even if he would have been 5 pounds, I would have still made the decision I made then. IMO it is not fair for human or animal to live in fear and I believe agression gone bad stems from fear. Its a tuff call, but having been there too I still stand firm on my decision at that time. Unfortunately, a situation like this leaves every living thing in the home with this animal, uneasy and fearful b/c u just never know.

Good luck and God Bless

I am with you, as heartbreaking as this all may sound..anne

I just wanted to offer my sincere sympathy. Please know my thoughts are with you during this difficult time. Who knows why some dogs (or people for that matter!) do and act how they do?! Sometimes you can explain it and other times it is just plain impossible to understand. I wish you the best and please know you have support or a shoulder to cry on if you need it.

This is such a sad story. It's hard for me to believe that she is beyond help. The OP would not be on here asking for help if she were ready to just give up on her and have her pts. I would start with a very through medical exam. She could very well have a medical condition that is causing her to act like this. Maybe a combination of training and a new home without other pets or children is the answer.

My heart goes out for you.

So Sorry you are going thru this, I just wanted to ask a few questions. Was she alone with the dog she killed or where there other yorkies present? Did you see her do it? Each time she did it was there other dogs present. If the other dogs were present when this happened it is what happens when one dog picks on another and pins it down then all the dogs join in and kill the underdog. Its the Pack effect. Most times if there are no other dogs to help small dogs (which depends on how small they are) are incapable of killing. Which is why I ask were there more dogs present? If not and she did it alone then she probably should be PTS . Is she aggresive around you or food?

It seems like other yorkies were present in at least one case, so hopefully something can be done to help.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/1847861-post3.html

wow I'm so sorry:( I would rehome her or hire a trainer.

Yes , I see then it is probably what I said about the pack attacking. I feel it is the whole Pack doing the killing , maybe the one female starts it but I think they all joined in. She needs to separate them when she is not going to be with them. Or Muzzle them if they are to be left alone together. The human Mommy needs to take some responsiblilty since this has happened several times and she knew about it. I think the female would be just fine by herself. but then she will still have the same prob with the same dogs she keeps , if a fight breaks out, they have learned to gang up on the underdog.

I agree that the pack mentality is what's happening. I have 12 yorkies and they get along fine 99% of the time but there are times when 2 of my girls get very aggressive with each other. What starts out as excitement can turn violent in a flash. My mentor told me once of leaving some of hers out to play. She went in for a few minutes and returned to find one ripped to shreds. Yorkies ARE dogs and terriers at that. Sometimes you just have to watch out and don't assume they're just sweeties all the time. :aimeeyork :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa

OMG! Yall have me paranoid now. I wanted to get my baby a companion to play with, but now I'm afraid she'll wanna attack or kill him one day! I'm rethinking getting a second one now.

I just want to know if this is some what common or a rare thing.

A yorkie killing (actually killing) is not very common. But its not especially uncommon for them to fight and attack.

Even Tucker, who is incredible laid back, etc., snapped at me one day. He's only done it that ONE time, but it taught me that even yorkies can't always be expected to be little angels.

I have heard they turn easily but I just cant ever picture lily being mean to anyone or anything. Do any of you have dogs whom you thought would never hurt a fly get snappy, I dont mean in a bad situation I mean get snappy with something the normally would be fine with? I dont mean to be confusing :confused:

I wonder why the original poster hasn't responded to any of the questions. I hope they are just a little unsure of all the reactions, and that this is not just a horrible hoax. If it is real, answering some of the questions may help you find the best solution. It is very hard to help, if we don't have all the facts. Not bashing, just trying to encourage poster to give a little more details; such as age of dog, was she alone, has she been to the vet Etc. This is a great place to get help, so just post again. Sherry

IMO this situation is mostly found in breeding situations or intact groups...I have never had a male and female fight, rarely had spayed bitches not get along...I have had them growl, snap or be short with each other, but never actually fighting. If you S/N your pets at 6 months or so, you should not have a problem. If you bring in a puppy when you have an adult, there is rarely any fighting...bringing in another adult can be dicy..but with all the dozens of Yorkies I have had of all agea, I have had few who fought.

It is common for bitches to fight when they are confused as to who is the alpha bitch...

The fighters I have had was due to a bitches "alpha confusion"...I learned to become the alpha bitch and that really brings fighting to a halt..but it did not stop a few bitches from deciding they did not like another for any number of silly reasons...I would tolerate a bitch singling out one she hated, (I had room to separate them, indoors and out )but never a bitch who was aggressive to all or even several...I have never had a Yorkie who showed any aggression towards humans..if they did, they would be S/N asap as I do not think they would be suitable for breeding...
If the owner asserts themself as the pack leader, the dogs rarely fight I have found.

I have to agree with most of this. If she's killed not one but two why would you put others in jepardy by allowing her to alone with them. I'm not sure about the putting to sleep part. Not because it's a Yorkie just because I really feel (And I know I'm going to take heat for saying this) but I really feel that the owner has played a part in this as well. There is an obvious known problem that was not addressed. You knew her to be aggressive for whatever reason yet you never took her out of the situation. In my oppinion before I put her to sleep I would rehome her with an older couple that do not have children or other pets. And,that is ONLY if she has not been aggressive with people. Most unaltered females and males will fight, especially if you have more then one alpha.

Elaine

Yorkie Rose....that seems be the case with my 2 girls.....alpha confusion. They're both sweethearts and get along great except once in a while their excitement gets out of control. I have no trouble shutting it down but it still happens from time to time. None of mine show any aggression towards humans and are generally very good to each other. With mine, it seems to happen when their hormones are raging so I keep a closer eye on them at those times. I think some bouts of aggression are to be expected when you have several dogs together, even our little furbutts.

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I come by it naturally!!! LOL
I call it "alpha confusion" when they forget I am the pack leader... A momentary lapse of memory! LOL

Remember, I had a breeding group, but the trainer said it works with one or more...
I was told, you as the human must be thought of a Pack Leader..one hard rule was, no sleeping with them. I noticed mine would sleep on my pillow, over my head...trainer said the alpha dog sleeps in the highest most position...Okay, I stopped sleeping with my pet Yorkies.. never allow them to enter or leave the house first..okay..no problem.

You have to have an assertive posture, firm voice, feed them the same time each day and no free feeding, they must depend on you for food and look to you for it.

Now, I have 3 or 4 pets at any given time and none fight, but I still try to enforce the rules to prevent problems. I admit to spoiling my pets and they are such sweethearts..but having a few who did not get along was very difficult in the past...and do not want it now.

If you can invision this scene...I used to walk around the kennel and give a lecture about once a week, then say..."you want a piece of me" and look them in the face...all those sweet little angels would sit wide eyed and try to give me kisses....but a few cocky ones took note I am sure. LOL

Pat.....great posts from you on here....thanks for sharing your wisdom. I have learned one thing....the male that sleeps with us and uses my head as his pillow is the pack leader. I will have to have a serious talk with him but I know he will not listen.lol

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I should take my own advise..believe me, I try, but Yorkies are so good at telling us to talk to the hand LOL...I have spoiled my girls rotten..!!!

Go back and read the original post...there were 3 killed altogether

"I'm the alpha bitch!"

LOL!! I want a shirt that says that!

If found where the OP posted this a couple of months ago:

I really think she has a pack problem. I have heard of this happening before. I re-read her original post and it does sound like she has lost 3 due to fighting, Boo Boo, Rambo and Kermie. She seriously need to break up this pack or remove the one that is causing the trouble. I wound not put up with it. She says they are never left unattended so is this happening in her presence? There are a few pieces missing to this puzzle.