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sheilajom · 05-13-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

I respectfully disagree. That simply has not been my experience with most of the cases I've dealt with.

You know of other yorkies that have killed?

LuvmyYorkies2 · 05-13-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

I respectfully disagree. That simply has not been my experience with most of the cases I've dealt with.

Well if you can help her...god bless you. Maybe you should try to PM her in case she doesn't post a reply anymore.... This is so heartbreaking and I am speechless..

yorkieK9trainer · 05-13-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sheilajom

You know of other yorkies that have killed?

Yes, but many owners (and this is not intended to make the original poster feel bad) come to me before things escalate to that severity. Many tend to come to me when their dogs continually get into fights with one another, or simply show dog aggression to other dogs outside of the home or one has caused an injury to another.

YorkieRose · 05-13-2008, 05:55 PM

I disagree with you...not because it may be possible to retrain a killer, anything is possible... but who would want to take the chance...one who pees on my floor can do nothing but make a mess, carpets are replaceable... one who is that aggressive may kill my other pets...that is a too risky for me to chance...

mypreciouspups · 05-13-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MeganS

Let me first say that I'm not in any way trying to start anything or put this owner down, because I know that this is really hard for her.

But here's what I feel like I have to say. If this had been any breed of dog that a lot of the people on here don't like (pit, GS, rottie), then no one would disagree with having this dog pts. Because its a yorkie, its nearly impossible to picture her being aggressive - or rather, no one wants to. But Lollie has killed 3 dogs - three! People on here...if anyone even mentions a big dog biting a small dog, people say that it should be put to sleep. Lollie has killed 3 dogs - who knows what she would do if she got ticked off around a small child or someone ELSE'S dog?

I'm really sorry. I'm not a mean person and I'm not trying to hurt Lollie's mom's feelings...but I don't believe that it is safe for ANYONE (including Lollie) for her to just be rehomed.

A thought just popped into my head. Have you had her vet checked? She may have some (treatable) problem. But if she doesn't and she's just this aggressive...then I'm just saying that maybe it would be best for all involved if she was pts peacefully in the arms of the family who loves her.

For such a young girl you really sound so grown up and intelligent with your posts.. your caring.. you read a lot of posts and learn a lot.. I think you did a wonderful post megan...anne

sheilajom · 05-13-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I disagree with you...not because it may be possible to retrain a killer, anything is possible... but who would want to take the chance...one who pees on my floor can do nothing but make a mess, carpets are replaceable... one who is that aggressive may kill my other pets...that is a too risky for me to chance...

I agree! If she had hurt another dog and not her own we wouldn't be having this discussion, she'd have been pts.

Duncansmom · 05-13-2008, 05:57 PM

What a tragedy. I have to agree with Megan on this one. My father had a gs/collie mix. Looked like a long haired gs. He was great in the beginning (dad got him 2 months after mom died and they were joined at the hip) but then one day....he snapped. he killed anything he could get to. Squirrels, a small dog, and then my kitten in my kitchen on thanksgiving night. That was the end of it. Dad (with a broken heart) gave him up to be pts. He had tried to bite me and my kids several times as well. Even if he would have been 5 pounds, I would have still made the decision I made then. IMO it is not fair for human or animal to live in fear and I believe agression gone bad stems from fear. Its a tuff call, but having been there too I still stand firm on my decision at that time. Unfortunately, a situation like this leaves every living thing in the home with this animal, uneasy and fearful b/c u just never know.

Good luck and God Bless

mypreciouspups · 05-13-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Most of you know I have lived with many Yorkies..raised many and cared for many belonging to others.
Most Yorkies who get in fights, bite, snap, grab a mouth full of hair or a leg and draw a bit of blood..then back off..one who kills is beyond help..you can never trust them.

I am with you, as heartbreaking as this all may sound..anne

Magneticgal · 05-13-2008, 06:07 PM

I just wanted to offer my sincere sympathy. Please know my thoughts are with you during this difficult time. Who knows why some dogs (or people for that matter!) do and act how they do?! Sometimes you can explain it and other times it is just plain impossible to understand. I wish you the best and please know you have support or a shoulder to cry on if you need it.

drawlins27 · 05-13-2008, 06:15 PM

This is such a sad story. It's hard for me to believe that she is beyond help. The OP would not be on here asking for help if she were ready to just give up on her and have her pts. I would start with a very through medical exam. She could very well have a medical condition that is causing her to act like this. Maybe a combination of training and a new home without other pets or children is the answer.

My heart goes out for you.

Breezeaway · 05-13-2008, 06:22 PM

So Sorry you are going thru this, I just wanted to ask a few questions. Was she alone with the dog she killed or where there other yorkies present? Did you see her do it? Each time she did it was there other dogs present. If the other dogs were present when this happened it is what happens when one dog picks on another and pins it down then all the dogs join in and kill the underdog. Its the Pack effect. Most times if there are no other dogs to help small dogs (which depends on how small they are) are incapable of killing. Which is why I ask were there more dogs present? If not and she did it alone then she probably should be PTS . Is she aggresive around you or food?

drawlins27 · 05-13-2008, 06:28 PM

It seems like other yorkies were present in at least one case, so hopefully something can be done to help.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/1847861-post3.html

mizzwanned · 05-13-2008, 06:34 PM

wow I'm so sorry

I would rehome her or hire a trainer.

Breezeaway · 05-13-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by drawlins27

It seems like other yorkies were present in at least one case, so hopefully something can be done to help.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/1847861-post3.html

Yes , I see then it is probably what I said about the pack attacking. I feel it is the whole Pack doing the killing , maybe the one female starts it but I think they all joined in. She needs to separate them when she is not going to be with them. Or Muzzle them if they are to be left alone together. The human Mommy needs to take some responsiblilty since this has happened several times and she knew about it. I think the female would be just fine by herself. but then she will still have the same prob with the same dogs she keeps , if a fight breaks out, they have learned to gang up on the underdog.

Woogie Man · 05-13-2008, 06:54 PM

I agree that the pack mentality is what's happening. I have 12 yorkies and they get along fine 99% of the time but there are times when 2 of my girls get very aggressive with each other. What starts out as excitement can turn violent in a flash. My mentor told me once of leaving some of hers out to play. She went in for a few minutes and returned to find one ripped to shreds. Yorkies ARE dogs and terriers at that. Sometimes you just have to watch out and don't assume they're just sweeties all the time.

05-13-2008, 05:55 PM	#64
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	killers I disagree with you...not because it may be possible to retrain a killer, anything is possible... but who would want to take the chance...one who pees on my floor can do nothing but make a mess, carpets are replaceable... one who is that aggressive may kill my other pets...that is a too risky for me to chance...

05-13-2008, 05:57 PM	#67
Duncansmom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 751	What a tragedy. I have to agree with Megan on this one. My father had a gs/collie mix. Looked like a long haired gs. He was great in the beginning (dad got him 2 months after mom died and they were joined at the hip) but then one day....he snapped. he killed anything he could get to. Squirrels, a small dog, and then my kitten in my kitchen on thanksgiving night. That was the end of it. Dad (with a broken heart) gave him up to be pts. He had tried to bite me and my kids several times as well. Even if he would have been 5 pounds, I would have still made the decision I made then. IMO it is not fair for human or animal to live in fear and I believe agression gone bad stems from fear. Its a tuff call, but having been there too I still stand firm on my decision at that time. Unfortunately, a situation like this leaves every living thing in the home with this animal, uneasy and fearful b/c u just never know. Good luck and God Bless __________________ Elizabeth Duncan Piper Mackie

05-13-2008, 06:07 PM	#69
Magneticgal Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canton,Ohio Posts: 514	I just wanted to offer my sincere sympathy. Please know my thoughts are with you during this difficult time. Who knows why some dogs (or people for that matter!) do and act how they do?! Sometimes you can explain it and other times it is just plain impossible to understand. I wish you the best and please know you have support or a shoulder to cry on if you need it. __________________ Kris , RIP Lexie , Bella Zoey

05-13-2008, 06:15 PM	#70
drawlins27 Mommy's Lil' Miracle Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mufreesboro, TN Posts: 1,028	This is such a sad story. It's hard for me to believe that she is beyond help. The OP would not be on here asking for help if she were ready to just give up on her and have her pts. I would start with a very through medical exam. She could very well have a medical condition that is causing her to act like this. Maybe a combination of training and a new home without other pets or children is the answer. My heart goes out for you. __________________ I LOVE my little Furbutts!

05-13-2008, 06:28 PM	#72
drawlins27 Mommy's Lil' Miracle Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mufreesboro, TN Posts: 1,028	It seems like other yorkies were present in at least one case, so hopefully something can be done to help. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/1847861-post3.html __________________ I LOVE my little Furbutts! Last edited by drawlins27; 05-13-2008 at 06:31 PM.

05-13-2008, 06:22 PM	#71
Breezeaway No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wildcat Country(KY) Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 26	So Sorry you are going thru this, I just wanted to ask a few questions. Was she alone with the dog she killed or where there other yorkies present? Did you see her do it? Each time she did it was there other dogs present. If the other dogs were present when this happened it is what happens when one dog picks on another and pins it down then all the dogs join in and kill the underdog. Its the Pack effect. Most times if there are no other dogs to help small dogs (which depends on how small they are) are incapable of killing. Which is why I ask were there more dogs present? If not and she did it alone then she probably should be PTS . Is she aggresive around you or food?

05-13-2008, 06:34 PM	#73
mizzwanned Donating YT 11K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: new york Posts: 14,007 Blog Entries: 2	wow I'm so sorry I would rehome her or hire a trainer. __________________ Primrose, Teddy..RIP, Livie..RIP, And can never forget my duo Sophie and London, Run in Peace <3

05-13-2008, 06:54 PM	#75
Woogie Man Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,564	I agree that the pack mentality is what's happening. I have 12 yorkies and they get along fine 99% of the time but there are times when 2 of my girls get very aggressive with each other. What starts out as excitement can turn violent in a flash. My mentor told me once of leaving some of hers out to play. She went in for a few minutes and returned to find one ripped to shreds. Yorkies ARE dogs and terriers at that. Sometimes you just have to watch out and don't assume they're just sweeties all the time.