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05-12-2008, 08:23 PM | #1 |
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| Teacup let me start off by saying I am really hoping that this thread can stay positive and I was not going to start it because I was afraid it would turn into drama but I have been here a little over a year and I still dont understand something. The word teacup is not to be used to describe your puppy because there is no such thing as a teacup yorkie...but "tiny" is ok. Im sorry but I dont get it. they are both words used to describe the size of their dog. I understand that bad breeders use "teacup" to charge more money but breeders use "tiny" to charge more money as well. I have never seen a litter of pups being sold on here where the "tinies" were priced at the same amount as the bigger ones. People come on here and say they have a teacup and right away members are telling them that theres no such thing and thats just used to charge more money...but its the same people who use the word tiny and charge more money. I must be missing something(like always ) anyone care to elaborate?
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05-12-2008, 08:30 PM | #2 |
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| I actually very much agree with you about this. I've always thought "tiny" was just as bad as "teacup", especially when they charge more for them. I was looking at a YT breeder's website just now and saw that and thought the exact same thing.
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05-12-2008, 08:32 PM | #3 |
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| I wouldn't buy from a breeder that advertised for "tinies" or "teacups". |
05-12-2008, 08:34 PM | #4 |
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| I agree. I understand charging less for dogs not in the standard but under 4 pounds isnt in standard either....... |
05-12-2008, 08:36 PM | #5 |
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| I dont only mean breeders that advertise tinies. I know that sometimes breeders get a few smaller babies (which I would think could happen if the moms 5 pounds and dads is 3 pounds) so if in a litter of five, 3 are bigger and 2 are smaller those 2 get sold for more...isnt that the same thing as breeders that charge more for "teacups"?
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05-12-2008, 08:42 PM | #6 |
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| I agree, "tiny" and "teacup" are pretty much the same thing, especially if you're using the word to charge more. When I was breeding, all my pups, with the exception of one have been under 4lbs. full grown and I knew they would be little, but I didn't charge more for them, even though I knew I could probably get more. I sold all pups for the same price, regardless of sex or size. |
05-12-2008, 09:07 PM | #7 |
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| CRB....just wanted to say that is a great signature you have. I couldn't agree more. |
05-12-2008, 09:11 PM | #8 |
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05-12-2008, 09:41 PM | #9 | |
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05-12-2008, 09:43 PM | #10 |
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| Actually it is - the standard only says UNDER 7 lbs, it never says anything about over 4.
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05-12-2008, 09:47 PM | #11 |
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| I agree
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05-12-2008, 09:53 PM | #12 |
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| I am not a breeder but I have 2 furbutts that are about 3 lbs full grown. I can say that the breeders usually charge more for the smaller pups because they take so much more time and energy to get them to the point where they can go home to a new family. They have to be watched 24/7 and fed up to 5 times a day up until they are 4-5 months old. They are more prone to injury so they sometimes have to be taken away from their littermates. When I got my 2, they still had night feedings that I had to get up for. So, I understood that the breeder had to spend extra time and attention with my pup and that was what I was paying for.
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05-12-2008, 10:15 PM | #13 |
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| I have heard that a much smaller puppy, considered to be a teacup is actually the ones who have more serious health problems. Their typically the runts as well. AND I too have heard that there is no such thing as teacup. This is true in any toy breed . Not just a Yorkie. |
05-13-2008, 04:29 AM | #14 | |
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Well, I agree with that to a point. I have been talking to a lot of breeders anymore, trying to become as educated as possible before we breed. I have a good year or more before we do. I have bred Shih tzus though. Talking with some breeders, when asking about pricing they have said "oh this ones gonna be small, so he/she costs more..." Not "well this one has been small, and has required more care, so he/she costs more". With SOME of them, its all about what the size is going to be (of course they dont really know for sure), more than what has been put into them. And honestly, I dont really mind. I mean, if something is in high demand, dont the prices go up? Why is a Coach bag so much more than a bag from Macys? Honestly I go back and forth on the issue myself, so this isnt my set in stone opinion. I just try to see both sides of it. Typically, not all the time, people want a smaller yorkie, smaller chi, smaller toy dog. Going by supply and demand, its a given they would be higher priced. Is it ethical? I guess thats going to be an indivually based opinion. I guess its easier to swallow if you say that they required so much care every so many hours, but honestly, the unethical breeders, you know dont care for their dogs the way they should, and thats not the reason they charge more for little ones. And what about if you have a litter of very small pups that dont require a lot of extra time, they just thrive perfectly well on their own? I am sure they would still cost more. But once again, I am not saying anything bad about, because I understand it. Its only irritating to me when people put a bunch of excuses around why the dog is so much, rather than just saying its because they are in high demand. I mean, if someone had a litter of pups that were really big, looked like they were going to be about 12 lbs full grown, I dont think they would ask as much for them, even if they had feeding issues at birth and they had to put a lot of extra time into them, because they know a lot of people wont pay a high $$ amount for a larger than standard yorkie.
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