Teacup

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by Mybabyboymax

. People come on here and say they have a teacup and right away members are telling them that theres no such thing and thats just used to charge more money...but its the same people who use the word tiny and charge more money. I must be missing something(like always ) anyone care to elaborate?

You're not missing anything and have pretty much just posted the truth. Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, hmm?

[Mybabyboymax]

Originally Posted by MindieRose

Well, I agree with that to a point. I have been talking to a lot of breeders anymore, trying to become as educated as possible before we breed. I have a good year or more before we do. I have bred Shih tzus though. Talking with some breeders, when asking about pricing they have said "oh this ones gonna be small, so he/she costs more..." Not "well this one has been small, and has required more care, so he/she costs more". With SOME of them, its all about what the size is going to be (of course they dont really know for sure), more than what has been put into them. And honestly, I dont really mind. I mean, if something is in high demand, dont the prices go up? Why is a Coach bag so much more than a bag from Macys?
Honestly I go back and forth on the issue myself, so this isnt my set in stone opinion. I just try to see both sides of it. Typically, not all the time, people want a smaller yorkie, smaller chi, smaller toy dog. Going by supply and demand, its a given they would be higher priced. Is it ethical? I guess thats going to be an indivually based opinion. I guess its easier to swallow if you say that they required so much care every so many hours, but honestly, the unethical breeders, you know dont care for their dogs the way they should, and thats not the reason they charge more for little ones. And what about if you have a litter of very small pups that dont require a lot of extra time, they just thrive perfectly well on their own? I am sure they would still cost more. But once again, I am not saying anything bad about, because I understand it. Its only irritating to me when people put a bunch of excuses around why the dog is so much, rather than just saying its because they are in high demand. I mean, if someone had a litter of pups that were really big, looked like they were going to be about 12 lbs full grown, I dont think they would ask as much for them, even if they had feeding issues at birth and they had to put a lot of extra time into them, because they know a lot of people wont pay a high $$ amount for a larger than standard yorkie.

Thanks for your insight, and honest post
I can see where people would be charging more for smaller dog, IMO I just wish they were priced the same. I feel when you price your smaller ones for more than his litter mate its like all they want is more money and I have heard 101 times how good breeders dont breed for money. I guess I see it as hypocritical in some ways.

[Mybabyboymax]

Originally Posted by jencar98

You're not missing anything and have pretty much just posted the truth. Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, hmm?

yea, Im starting to think I am not missing anything. I just thought maybe someone would tell me something I didnt know but not yet lol

[Gazou]

In the same litter , a bitch can have pups that will be 2 , 3 , 4 , up to 7 pounds as adults .

[nygee]

I AGREE... Its all the same...
Doesn't "TEACUP" mean they fit inside of a TEACUP!!!
Well, Thats what MIAMI TEACUPS, advertises...
He ( this breeder) had one of his own pups (full grown) fit inside a teacup!!!
She is so adorable, and thats his strategy to convince you to purchase from him...
So, he got us with his strategy....
Gizmo, we bought from him weighs 11 lbs., Now he's a "TEAPOT"



I Love My Furbabies Nygee, Gizmo & Gypsy!!!

[crb]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I think this is a good indication that you are what I would call an ethical breeder. I think the breeders that I admire all feel this way.

Thanks for the compliment. Although I don't breed anymore, my only female that I would breed is 5 now and retired and I'm not looking for another one. There is just so much work into breeding.

[crb]

Originally Posted by Mybabyboymax

I agree

Thanks!!

[yorkiecrazy]

Originally Posted by crb

I agree, "tiny" and "teacup" are pretty much the same thing, especially if you're using the word to charge more. When I was breeding, all my pups, with the exception of one have been under 4lbs. full grown and I knew they would be little, but I didn't charge more for them, even though I knew I could probably get more. I sold all pups for the same price, regardless of sex or size.

We need more breeder out there like you!!!

[crb]

Originally Posted by yorkiecrazy

We need more breeder out there like you!!!

Thanks for the compliment!!

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by crb

Thanks for the compliment. Although I don't breed anymore, my only female that I would breed is 5 now and retired and I'm not looking for another one. There is just so much work into breeding.

Sorry to hear that, those two in your avatar picture are precious!


I guess I just hate to see breeders catering to people who want pets as fashion accessories and status symbols. I cringe every time someone posts a thread about wanting a tea-cup to fit in her purse. These are living breathing creatures that have intelligence and sensitivities. Breeders who purposely breed and market these puppies are extremely unethical. Yorkies under 4 pounds have been shown to have many more health risks and dental problems. Doesn't anyone, besides me, worry about breeders who are in this for the money doing such things as limiting the mother's food, and or puppy's food to artificially produce tinier puppies?

Breeding is a lot of hard work, but I think it's similar to the ministry; you need to have a calling to do it.

[Shaena]

I just wanted to say that when I was looking for my dog, I wanted it to fit inside my purse. Not as a fashion accessory, but because that would mean I can take him everywhere. I wanted a constant companion, and now I have him!

Also, I wanted to thank the starter of the this thread. I agree with everything you say. I also wanted to add that I think the word "teacup" is a deceptive word to use because I have heard many non-yorkie enthusiasts (pretty much people who don't know much about small breed dogs) use the term because they actually thought it was a type of dog! I have even heard someone use the terms "miniature yorkie" and "toy yorkie"! I think breeders who use the term "teacup" are simply perpetuating the idea that there is more than one type of yorkshire terrier.

[txrosegirl]

thanks to the OP for posting this...i have also wondered why breeders charged more for the "smaller" puppies and until i realized the care that goes into making sure the littlest ones survive, i thought it was a supply & demand issue ... but ITA with the poster who said unethical breeders do not put the extra care into the smaller ones and for them it is just $$ signs in their eyes

so i guess what i am saying is i can see both sides!

although i do not think i have personally EVER seen a website where the breeder charged the same price for all sizes of puppies - smallest to largest (taking gender out of the equation)

[Sookie]

Aside from the fact that some breeders use the word teacup to sell their puppy for more money, why is it not ok to use the word "teacup" as a descriptive term? Personally, I'm not bothered by it and I think that some people get too defensive. I would correct a few people at first who would ask "Is she a teacup?" but I don't really care anymore. I just say "She's 3 1/2 pounds". Call her what you want.

[Mybabyboymax]

Originally Posted by Sookie

Aside from the fact that some breeders use the word teacup to sell their puppy for more money, why is it not ok to use the word "teacup" as a descriptive term? Personally, I'm not bothered by it and I think that some people get too defensive. I would correct a few people at first who would ask "Is she a teacup?" but I don't really care anymore. I just say "She's 3 1/2 pounds". Call her what you want.

I agree, its just a word used to describe a size, just like tiny, big, teapot...

[birdmanjr115]

Originally Posted by MindieRose

Well, I agree with that to a point. I have been talking to a lot of breeders anymore, trying to become as educated as possible before we breed. I have a good year or more before we do. I have bred Shih tzus though. Talking with some breeders, when asking about pricing they have said "oh this ones gonna be small, so he/she costs more..." Not "well this one has been small, and has required more care, so he/she costs more". With SOME of them, its all about what the size is going to be (of course they dont really know for sure), more than what has been put into them. And honestly, I dont really mind. I mean, if something is in high demand, dont the prices go up? Why is a Coach bag so much more than a bag from Macys?
Honestly I go back and forth on the issue myself, so this isnt my set in stone opinion. I just try to see both sides of it. Typically, not all the time, people want a smaller yorkie, smaller chi, smaller toy dog. Going by supply and demand, its a given they would be higher priced. Is it ethical? I guess thats going to be an indivually based opinion. I guess its easier to swallow if you say that they required so much care every so many hours, but honestly, the unethical breeders, you know dont care for their dogs the way they should, and thats not the reason they charge more for little ones. And what about if you have a litter of very small pups that dont require a lot of extra time, they just thrive perfectly well on their own? I am sure they would still cost more. But once again, I am not saying anything bad about, because I understand it. Its only irritating to me when people put a bunch of excuses around why the dog is so much, rather than just saying its because they are in high demand. I mean, if someone had a litter of pups that were really big, looked like they were going to be about 12 lbs full grown, I dont think they would ask as much for them, even if they had feeding issues at birth and they had to put a lot of extra time into them, because they know a lot of people wont pay a high $$ amount for a larger than standard yorkie.

TOTALLY AGREE YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE!