Need to say something.

[Misti1]

Might I also add that in my research on the history of the yorkshire terrier I found that they were the dog of choice for the POOR and lower classes, as the land barrons did not want that class to have a dog that could be used for poaching game on their lands.

[linsvs]

The important thing is Callie is yours and she is beautiful !!!!

[jfalz73]

Originally Posted by Misti1

This is the second thread I have seen regarding yorkies and one's personal finance......I don't see the need for anyone to justify or explain their economic circumstances to anyone on the internet...whether it relates to supporting a dog or oneself.

good post! Enough of this!

[ARCHIE]

Originally Posted by Woogie Man

We have 12 Yorkies. I breed some of them but love them all. They have totally taken over our lives and we wouldn't have it any other way. I never would have gotten so many if I didn't truly love them. If you ever want a kissee bath, just come on over . As a breeder though, I have to be mindful of the breed standard, no matter my personal feelings. I really wish there was more than one category for Yorkies according to size, much like the Poodle. There have always been both large and small Yorkies since the beginning, also both flop and prick eared ones. To me, it's senseless to write a breed standard that excludes so many dogs. It's almost like wishing them out of existence. It's also one of the things that leads to bad breeding practices: breeding mis-matched dogs to try to conform to the standard. This contributes to the uncertainty of just what any given pup will turn out like. If there was a standard that included the larger Yorkies, there would be more people breeding better matched dogs instead of trying to 'bring them down in size'. Our dogs range from 3 to 13 pounds. We love them all and 'standard purists' don't know what they're missing out on by being dismissive of the bigger ones. They're all Yorkie, just as much as the smaller ones and NOTHING WILL EVER LOVE YOU LIKE A YORKIE!! When folks come over to see our pups, they always fall in love with Archie, and he's our biggest at 13 pounds but he is gorgeous and one of the most personable dogs you'll ever meet, no matter the breed. They ask,"oh, what breed is he?" and we say 'Yorkie". Then we have to show them some old pictures and drawings of the earliest Yorkies and explain that Archie is a throwback to that type of dog. They're always facinated by this because they all think a Yorkie is only the type you see on magazine covers and such. It's a shame that we can't breed him because of people's expectations of a Yorkie. People are really missing out on a wonderful dog by strict standards breeding them out of existence. The world will not be a better place when they are gone. To me, it's a sad state of affairs.

Thank you for such a wonderful post. Coming from a breeder it means
alot to me. I have a larger Yorkie and he's the best thing that has happened to me in a long time. I think he's beautiful in every way he's just
bigger than the standard and I believe he get's knocked for it as do the
other above standard Yorkies. I also think there should be more than one
catagory in judging this breed afterall they started out bigger and it was
MAN who changed that to their liking.
Buddy would have produced beautiful pups. He has a pure silky coat,
his teeth are perfect, his ears erect and placed perfectly and his back
is straight as a line. He's mine and I'm very proud of him. Yorkies, no
matter size or color are a wonderful breed. Rich or poor we are all
blessed to have these beautiful dogs in our lives.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Woogie Man

We have 12 Yorkies. I breed some of them but love them all. They have totally taken over our lives and we wouldn't have it any other way. I never would have gotten so many if I didn't truly love them. If you ever want a kissee bath, just come on over . As a breeder though, I have to be mindful of the breed standard, no matter my personal feelings. I really wish there was more than one category for Yorkies according to size, much like the Poodle. There have always been both large and small Yorkies since the beginning, also both flop and prick eared ones. To me, it's senseless to write a breed standard that excludes so many dogs. It's almost like wishing them out of existence. It's also one of the things that leads to bad breeding practices: breeding mis-matched dogs to try to conform to the standard. This contributes to the uncertainty of just what any given pup will turn out like. If there was a standard that included the larger Yorkies, there would be more people breeding better matched dogs instead of trying to 'bring them down in size'. Our dogs range from 3 to 13 pounds. We love them all and 'standard purists' don't know what they're missing out on by being dismissive of the bigger ones. They're all Yorkie, just as much as the smaller ones and NOTHING WILL EVER LOVE YOU LIKE A YORKIE!! When folks come over to see our pups, they always fall in love with Archie, and he's our biggest at 13 pounds but he is gorgeous and one of the most personable dogs you'll ever meet, no matter the breed. They ask,"oh, what breed is he?" and we say 'Yorkie". Then we have to show them some old pictures and drawings of the earliest Yorkies and explain that Archie is a throwback to that type of dog. They're always facinated by this because they all think a Yorkie is only the type you see on magazine covers and such. It's a shame that we can't breed him because of people's expectations of a Yorkie. People are really missing out on a wonderful dog by strict standards breeding them out of existence. The world will not be a better place when they are gone. To me, it's a sad state of affairs.

I agree the larger yorkies are sweet also and a great size for people with children. I think there is a place for yorkies of all sizes

[Jeri Cunningham]

I have 5 Yorkies and Krissy with her floppy ears and weighting over 14 lbs is the sweetest of them all. She has had 10 puppies in two litters and all are very sweet. The puppies have brought so much joy to their owners and I have people on a list that want one of her puppies if she has more. There are actually people that want a bigger yorkie and not the tiny black and tan ones.

Love is not in the size or color or a dog or a person it is what is inside that counts.

I have both types and love them all equally. Well maybe I'm a little partical to my over 16 LB Teddy as he is a momma's boy.

[celstu1]

Originally Posted by patty58

Since most of us think of our yorkies as our babies and love them with all our hearts, just like our children...does that mean that people should "breed" for perfection. There is no such thing as perfection.

I disagree! I KNOW my babies are PERFECT!!!

[linsvs]

Mine is perfect also !!! every inch and every ounce!!!!

[NuggetsMom]

I know how you feel...and I'm not trying to say anything bad about anyone but i read on a different thread someone only sells to "rich grownups" well I'm sure we all hope to be rich someday...so I'm not the richest person Nugget has never been neglected...we found a low cost spay/neuter clinic (which was recommended by the SPCA) we also have been purchasing his flea and heartworm medication there) not to mention these "rich grownups" have enough so I'm sure they go on vacation then what happens to their pups? In a kennel for 2 weeks? I'm not sure of the point I'm making but I agree more money does not mean more love or better care!

[katelin]

Here is my problem:

The OP and others clearly love, love, love their Yorkie babies regardless of size, shape, coat, color, etc. They wouldn't trade them and some think there should even be a whole new class for these "non-standard" dogs.

Then how can anyone condemn the breeder who produced these off standard puppies? Apparently they have given something wonderful to the puppy owners. Why is that wrong? Why is it "wrong" to purchase and own a Yorkie that isn't within the breed standard?

The "standard" of today is an arbitrary list of qualities that does not resemble the original Yorkie at all. So who is able to criticize either the breeder or the owner of these "non-standard" dogs that we love so much.

I personally think the AKC Yorkie breed standards are too restrictive. If they were attainable on a regular basis, we'd see many more Yorkies winning Best in Show. Sadly, that is not the case.

The dog in my heart is an 8 lb. Yorkie that I simply love. She is beautiful and I wouldn't trade her for any other dog. She sets the standard for me.

Yorkie hugs to all.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by katelin

Here is my problem:

The OP and others clearly love, love, love their Yorkie babies regardless of size, shape, coat, color, etc. They wouldn't trade them and some think there should even be a whole new class for these "non-standard" dogs.

Then how can anyone condemn the breeder who produced these off standard puppies? Apparently they have given something wonderful to the puppy owners. Why is that wrong? Why is it "wrong" to purchase and own a Yorkie that isn't within the breed standard?


The "standard" of today is an arbitrary list of qualities that does not resemble the original Yorkie at all. So who is able to criticize either the breeder or the owner of these "non-standard" dogs that we love so much.

I personally think the AKC Yorkie breed standards are too restrictive. If they were attainable on a regular basis, we'd see many more Yorkies winning Best in Show. Sadly, that is not the case.

The dog in my heart is an 8 lb. Yorkie that I simply love. She is beautiful and I wouldn't trade her for any other dog. She sets the standard for me.

Yorkie hugs to all.

I don't think anyone condemns the breeder who produces off standard puppies; I condemn the breeder who breeds non-standard yorkies. Even the best breeders dogs aren't perfect in every way; but the result will be like some of the dogs mentioned, beautiful silky coat, great teeth, great structure, just a little bigger than standard.

When you ask why it is wrong to purchase a puppy that is not within breed standard, I have not read one post on YorkieTalk about people criticizing others because their dog isn't within standard. I have read posts where people recommend not breeding someone's dog because it's not within standard, but this is an entirely different matter. Most members of Yorkietalk seem unconditionally loving towards purebred yorkies and mixes of all sizes and shapes. However, if there is not some type of guideline on what makes a yorkie a yorkie than yorkies will not look and act like yorkies in the future, and I think this would be rather sad.

[Woogie Man]

Great post, Katelin. Funny thing is, even a lot of champion Yorkies don't meet the standard as far as color goes once they fully mature. Many exhibitors try to finish their dog out before he/she matures and the coat gets lighter. Some also use color enhancers. Very few Yorkies maintain the dark steel blue coat that is required by the breed standard so what's the point of a standard that even many champions don't attain (or maintain)? I'm no purist but this doesn't make much sense to me.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I don't think anyone condemns the breeder who produces off standard puppies; I condemn the breeder who breeds non-standard yorkies. Even the best breeders dogs aren't perfect in every way; but the result will be like some of the dogs mentioned, beautiful silky coat, great teeth, great structure, just a little bigger than standard.

When you ask why it is wrong to purchase a puppy that is not within breed standard, I have not read one post on YorkieTalk about people criticizing others because their dog isn't within standard. I have read posts where people recommend not breeding someone's dog because it's not within standard, but this is an entirely different matter. Most members of Yorkietalk seem unconditionally loving towards purebred yorkies and mixes of all sizes and shapes. However, if there is not some type of guideline on what makes a yorkie a yorkie than yorkies will not look and act like yorkies in the future, and I think this would be rather sad.

[Hannah3183]

Since I've gotten my yorkie, I can't stop smiling. She means the world to me, and my time with her is invaluable. I agree with you whole heartedly. It doesn't matter if your dog is "up to standards or show quality." The only thing that matters is the love you have for each other. I believe that all pets, no matter what they are, greatly enrich our lives.

[loveyorks]

Originally Posted by Hannah3183

Since I've gotten my yorkie, I can't stop smiling. She means the world to me, and my time with her is invaluable. I agree with you whole heartedly. It doesn't matter if your dog is "up to standards or show quality." The only thing that matters is the love you have for each other. I believe that all pets, no matter what they are, greatly enrich our lives.

I could'nt agree more, after all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Chewy, my oldest is 12 lbs, floppy ears, totally blond and I would not trade him in for anything in the world, he is after all ''Chewy the King'', there's nothing compared to coming home, tired and cranky after a long day's work and having this wonderful bundle of fur wriggling like crazy with nothing but loving on his mind...