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Kelz · 03-23-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops

Cathi-no one has said to hate these darling little ones that are of mixed breeds. All dogs deserved to be loved but as a person who has been very involved in rescue and has been in the death chamber at the pound it is wrong IMHO to continue to breed what use to be known as mutts as millions of mutts are dying every year in the pounds. Even though I did Yorkie rescue 2 of my little ones are mutts and I love them to pieces but obviously their original owners did not and threw them away. Until this country stops euthanizing up to over 5 million pets a year this type of breeding has to stop. We are trying to remember the feelings of the millions of dogs being euthanized every year.

i could not agree more!

Kelz · 03-23-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiecrazy

I could not agree more!!

haha i didn't read all the post and copied yours word for word on accident!!!

scrapindee · 03-23-2008, 03:07 PM

She stated she is getting her Biewer in 9 months.

Sounds like she hasn't found a breeder that will sell to her knowing from the get-go she will not be breeding but mixing the Biewer into other lines.

We do not need any Biewer-poo or Biewertese. I think this forum told her that.

Emmsmom · 03-23-2008, 03:10 PM

I just think the OP's way of thinking is seriously flawed! I am also not quite sure what the OP wants to accomplish here on YT. She has already stepped on many toes and I honestly don't see her getting a lot of support here.
I think when anyone comes to a site like this they must first take into consideration the way others feel. We have quite a few Biewer breeders on YT that will obvioulsy strongly disagree with mixing this breed. As it is they are already striving to get them recognized by AKC. Then you have those that breed Yorkshire Terriers. Like the Biewer breeders most of the Yorkie breeders are striving to stay true to the breed. Both breeders want to keep to the written standard or as close as possibe.
So when the OP comes on and talks about throwing a monkey wrench in the whole deal tempers are going rise. So she shouldn't be shocked

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Don't get me wrong. I think all mixes deserve to be loved. We have quite a few members that own mixes that are simply adorable!

however, those members didn't come on YT wanting to mix AB with C to get D. Hope I didn't step on any toes but this is my opinion.

a2luckygirl · 03-23-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cathi

we should not be ganging up on anyone with a different view. I am start to feel that this is a repeat of what happen to me when I first got Sal. We need to remember that there are many of us that do have mix breed yorkies and visit this board often. I am sorry that people forget that we are human and have feels.

I don't remember about Sal, but I am sorry! you are not the only one who's feelings have been hurt! Kind of like slamming your flesh and blood, isn't it? that is what is so sad about the "doggie discrimination"

most all known breeds today-were not created by God- they were created by MAN!

lucysyoyopoos · 03-23-2008, 05:38 PM

i found my biewer yorkshire terrier on puppyfind, and drove 12 hours to get him. his parents were from germany.. he is small and perfect for
my girls.. she does both.. mixes and purebreeds cannot disclose that info sorry

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops

Out of curiosity, who did you get your Biewer from? Does your breeder also mix the breeds?

lucysyoyopoos · 03-23-2008, 05:52 PM

rescue shelters and euthanizing unwanted dogs is a tragedy..
but, even breeders of only purebreed dogs should stop breeding if they want to use that argument.... go to the pound right now and save a dog...
the fact is, there are a lot of pure breed dogs that get abandoned also. not just the mutts or mixes... big dogs, especially are vuilnerable to this..
most people these days want small dogs.. companion dogs.. but, there
are just a lot of people who have dogs that should not have dogs at all..
so sad.. choosing the right homes is the most important thing..
a puppy that costs 1000 or 2000 deserves a fenced in area and a doggy door and a companion canine..
those who cannot afford an expensive dog should go the pound and get one .
those who can afford the price should be willing to put out morer money to provide them with a dog friendly home..
selling puppies in pairs is the best feeling.
i feel like they will be happier to grow up with a littermate..

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Originally Posted by jrsygal37

[B][/B Designer dogs? Oh you mean mixed breeds or mutts as they used to be called and who end up in rescue or shelters? I have one of your so called designer dogs. I've never been hot on the word "mutt" so I prefer to call her a mixed up pup. What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Oh yes, I think I figured that out by the "Aren't these the designer dogs everyone wants?" The almighty buck. And we wonder how Puppymills started.

If you truly love your dogs then you'll keep them as your pets and you won't let greed take over by breeding for mixes. There are too many mixes as well as badly bred pure breds that end up in rescue or shelters and that's the lucky ones.

Elaine

lucysyoyopoos · 03-23-2008, 05:56 PM

thank you for your words of wisdom.. i totally agree
i guess i am a hybrid breeder.. because i have a good plan.
just my opinion again..

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Originally Posted by a2luckygirl

Mutt: a pup of a litter from which the breed of the mother is unknow- and father not know for sure at all!

Hybrid- a informed, planned breeding between 2 know breeds to achive a desired result!!
this is the basic things - I have read on this
society has done hybrid breeding forever- the term hybrid/ designer has somehow got to be an issue

Both are good if done the right way! Both are bad if not!
I am not on either side- just hope all breeders- have healthy pups!

Chrissy0277 · 03-23-2008, 06:01 PM

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those who cannot afford an expensive dog should go the pound and get one .
those who can afford the price should be willing to put out morer money to provide them with a dog friendly home..
selling puppies in pairs is the best feeling.
i feel like they will be happier to grow up with a littermate..

Even those who can afford these dogs should not have them.. Kinda like yourself. You dont deserve those dogs, you dont love them all you see is big dollar signs over those "designer dogs"
Have fun breeding your dogs.. Maybe you will get lucky and not kill them to make your almighty buck.

Kelz · 03-23-2008, 06:03 PM

it's a shame that people are already going to ruin the biewer breed. I know so many breeders striving for excellence in their lines.. why someone would want to screw that up is beyond me.. Just my opinion.

jrsygal37 · 03-23-2008, 06:06 PM

You quoted me and you made yourself out to be the next Mother Theresa because you want to sell your dog in pairs. With all do respect "you have got to be smoking something." A reputable breeder is breeding for the better of the breed. Again, I'll ask what are you breeding for? Let me answer. Because in your own words "people want the designer dog and you have a waiting list." It's all about money and how much you can make while the market for these dogs is hot.

You mention unwanted dogs but do you realize that with a mix breed there is NO ASSURANCE as to what this pup will look like as an adult. At least with a pure bred you have a pretty fair chance that the pup you bought will look like you think it will based on what an adult Yorkie, or Golden or whatever breed you are buying. Then you have your mixed breed who was walking down the street with their owner and you have someone see it and ask what breed it is and that person is told "Oh it's a mix of Maltese and Yorkie - they call them Morkies" Now that person goes home and decides "hey that's what I want." They go and they buy that pup that they think will look JUST like the one they fell in love with. That pup grows up to look totally different then the one they saw and like it or not SOME people WILL turn that dog in because it was not what they expected AND THAT MAKES PEOPLE LIKE YOU IRRIESPONSIBLE BREEDERS.

lucysyoyopoos · 03-23-2008, 06:15 PM

how is temperament judged ?????
isnt it environmental?? having to do with how they are raised??
socializing, loving, grooming..

no matter what they look like , they will be cute.. i have a female yorkipoo 5 months old that is all black with a few white spots silky straight hair, and her brother looks like a grizzly bear. there is quite a difference..

my 50/50 yorkipoo looks like a little black sheep
her puppies are 75% yorkie and are much cuter

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Originally Posted by melhe

Don't know what to say. The result might be too unpredictable. You have some chance to get desired " designer" dog. Also same changes to get undesired looking. not only looking, but also unpredictable temproment.

I feel it might not be a good idea.

jrsygal37 · 03-23-2008, 06:16 PM

Let me entertain your plan for a minute. You a breeder want to breed designer dogs. I'm told there is a math eqastion to get the right look out of the two. Going with this assumption, as a new breeder what makes you experienced enough to do this and do it correctly? And, what happens if you cannot get that look that those want? What will happen to those puppies? I really think that this whole conversation is going no where and I'm not even going to post any further about it - I hope administration closes this thread. IT'S RIDICULOUS. A NEW BREEDER LOOKING TO BREED DESIGNER DOGS. MONEY MONEY MONEY.

lucysyoyopoos · 03-23-2008, 06:18 PM

all breeders should stop breeding and go get all the dogs out of the pound...

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Originally Posted by Kelz

i could not agree more!

lucysyoyopoos · 03-23-2008, 06:20 PM

harsh words from a breeder.. not very nice
its not about the money honey
i do love my dogs, and i hope you love yours

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Originally Posted by Chrissy0277

Even those who can afford these dogs should not have them.. Kinda like yourself. You dont deserve those dogs, you dont love them all you see is big dollar signs over those "designer dogs"
Have fun breeding your dogs.. Maybe you will get lucky and not kill them to make your almighty buck.

03-23-2008, 03:07 PM	#93
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	She stated she is getting her Biewer in 9 months. Sounds like she hasn't found a breeder that will sell to her knowing from the get-go she will not be breeding but mixing the Biewer into other lines. We do not need any Biewer-poo or Biewertese. I think this forum told her that. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

03-23-2008, 03:10 PM	#94
Emmsmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 989	I just think the OP's way of thinking is seriously flawed! I am also not quite sure what the OP wants to accomplish here on YT. She has already stepped on many toes and I honestly don't see her getting a lot of support here. I think when anyone comes to a site like this they must first take into consideration the way others feel. We have quite a few Biewer breeders on YT that will obvioulsy strongly disagree with mixing this breed. As it is they are already striving to get them recognized by AKC. Then you have those that breed Yorkshire Terriers. Like the Biewer breeders most of the Yorkie breeders are striving to stay true to the breed. Both breeders want to keep to the written standard or as close as possibe. So when the OP comes on and talks about throwing a monkey wrench in the whole deal tempers are going rise. So she shouldn't be shocked . Don't get me wrong. I think all mixes deserve to be loved. We have quite a few members that own mixes that are simply adorable! however, those members didn't come on YT wanting to mix AB with C to get D. Hope I didn't step on any toes but this is my opinion. __________________ MICHELLE DIESEL "The Weasel" and little brother TUCKER

03-23-2008, 06:03 PM	#100
Kelz YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Yukon, ok Posts: 2,885	it's a shame that people are already going to ruin the biewer breed. I know so many breeders striving for excellence in their lines.. why someone would want to screw that up is beyond me.. Just my opinion. __________________ Kelly- momma to Parker, Star,Zoe, & Kegan.. RIP Silly Lily OK Yorkie Rescue - http://okyorkierescue.org

03-23-2008, 06:06 PM	#101
jrsygal37 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,370	You quoted me and you made yourself out to be the next Mother Theresa because you want to sell your dog in pairs. With all do respect "you have got to be smoking something." A reputable breeder is breeding for the better of the breed. Again, I'll ask what are you breeding for? Let me answer. Because in your own words "people want the designer dog and you have a waiting list." It's all about money and how much you can make while the market for these dogs is hot. You mention unwanted dogs but do you realize that with a mix breed there is NO ASSURANCE as to what this pup will look like as an adult. At least with a pure bred you have a pretty fair chance that the pup you bought will look like you think it will based on what an adult Yorkie, or Golden or whatever breed you are buying. Then you have your mixed breed who was walking down the street with their owner and you have someone see it and ask what breed it is and that person is told "Oh it's a mix of Maltese and Yorkie - they call them Morkies" Now that person goes home and decides "hey that's what I want." They go and they buy that pup that they think will look JUST like the one they fell in love with. That pup grows up to look totally different then the one they saw and like it or not SOME people WILL turn that dog in because it was not what they expected AND THAT MAKES PEOPLE LIKE YOU IRRIESPONSIBLE BREEDERS.

03-23-2008, 06:16 PM	#103
jrsygal37 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,370	Let me entertain your plan for a minute. You a breeder want to breed designer dogs. I'm told there is a math eqastion to get the right look out of the two. Going with this assumption, as a new breeder what makes you experienced enough to do this and do it correctly? And, what happens if you cannot get that look that those want? What will happen to those puppies? I really think that this whole conversation is going no where and I'm not even going to post any further about it - I hope administration closes this thread. IT'S RIDICULOUS. A NEW BREEDER LOOKING TO BREED DESIGNER DOGS. MONEY MONEY MONEY.