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07-14-2005, 11:20 AM | #1 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida
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| Puppy Mill Busters Unite! I think we all agree Puppy Mills are evil and need to be stopped. I like the idea of T's and bumper stickers to educate people. I still see a problem, an economic one. Supply and Demand Average Joe wants a purebred puppy. Where do you find one? 1. The pet store is easy. You can see and play with them, they steal your heart, you give them your money and take your puppy and the papers stating it's a purebred, maybe get a guarantee. Easy. Most people like convenience. This fuels the puppymill, not good. 2. You search the internet and find sites. You can look at cute pictures of available pups, choose the one you want, make calls, send payment and hope you get a good puppy. It is risky. You might still be supporting a puppymill. 3. You search the internet for breeders in your area, or attend a dog show, or call vets to search for potential breeders. You make lots of phone calls and ask lots of questions. It takes a lot of time, it's not easy. After a lot of work you end up with your puppy and papers. It's great but is very time consuming. My point is that when someone wants something they usually don't want to wait long. Think about it. February 13th men are lined up buying cards and flowers. If someone wants to buy a purebred puppy for a gift, they might just go to the pet store. I guess if it were easier to buy a good purebred puppy from a responsible breeder then we could put puppymills out of business. Any thoughts of how to get rid of puppymills? Let's brainstorm!
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07-14-2005, 11:26 AM | #2 |
My Precious Pup Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York City
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| I hate to say this, because I want it stopped just like everyone else, but puppymills are like the drug industry, they will never be stopped. There's too much money in it for it to go away. Something will always slip through the cracks, an inspector can always be bribed. We can only do what we can do to make small changes and calmly educate those around us about the problem, but unfortunately, puppymills are here to stay. |
07-14-2005, 11:28 AM | #3 |
Maximus "Lily's Love Slave" Join Date: May 2005 Location: san ramon, ca
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| EDUCATION!!!! I am really embarassed to say this but I was unaware of puppymills until I started doing my research on yorkies...I have never owned a dog or pet other then fish..once I heard about them I took it upon myself to research before buying a puppy..for many pets are impulse buys and research isn't done...but if "PUPPYMILLS" was something that everyone knew about..I think the impulse buys would lessen!!
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07-14-2005, 11:29 AM | #4 |
Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member | This is my thoughts on this because you're right - and it's something I've thought about too.... When I was looking for Cheri...I looked at the Houston online classifieds (the newspaper) ....It's full of breeders selling puppies - most of them are hobby breeders... but I did notice ongoing ads from the same breeders over and over - there are many people, with many breeds selling thru the paper. I agree it's not as easy as walking into a pet store - but when you consider what those poor puppies go thru to GET to that store - and the mom they're leaving behind in hell...it's worth a little inconvenience I think ...but this is a REALLY good question and I can't wait to see more posts about it. |
07-14-2005, 11:44 AM | #5 |
Puppy Luv Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada
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| Yes education is a great way to help. I have many people that ask me about my dogs, first question is almost always " How much did you pay for them?" The next question is usually "Which pet store did you buy from?" I do a speel about pet stores, puppymills, reputable breeders.... Sometimes I get quite the looks but I feel I am helping to educate some of them. What Sunshine22 said about people wanting everything right away is so true and hard to fight. People want things now, think later. I think this is one reason there are so many pets in shelters... I too found this waiting hard when I decided I wanted a yorkie it was extremely difficult to wait the weeks and even months (still waiting) to bring home both my puppies. I saw many ads and the odd pet store with yorkies for sale but I am thankful to those that helped educate me as well as my own research to make an informed decision not to buy from them. We need to tell others its worth the wait to know you did the best to get a healthy puppy and did not support the abuse of dogs in puppymills. |
07-14-2005, 12:06 PM | #6 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maplewood, Minnesota
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| I was one of the ones that didn't know My very first dog as a adult was a chi chi and I didn't know any better and I bought her from Petland petstore. When I decided that I wanted another chi chi I did my research and learned more about the breed and looked more towards breeders. I didn't know about puppymills either. I have been lucky with my 1st chi chi and she has been healthy the 6 years I had her. But when I am asked where did I get my furbabbies I make sure I go thru the whole story so that others can learn from my mistake of buying from a pet store instead of a breeder you can trust. don't get me wrong I love my lil chi chi and you would have to rip her out of my cold dead hands to take her from me. I just wished I had someone to talk to me about pet stores at the time I was looking to buy. If everyone could educate just one person and then that person educates another and so on it's a little start but at least its a start.
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07-14-2005, 12:07 PM | #7 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Windsor, ON
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| Sadly, I agree that it is like the street drug industry, and as much as we want it to stop, it's not going to any time soon. While educating people will help some, there will always be those people who just say... "well, it's not going to stop, and those puppies do need a home anyway" and will purchase from a pet store. Which is true... I feel so bad for those babies, because they do deserve just as much love as a baby from reputable breeder does. It's like we are punishing them dogs, for what those millers are doing. It's so not fair to them....
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07-14-2005, 01:00 PM | #8 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida
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| new exclusive registry I was thinking about how people like exclusive brand names that stand for quality. I'm not trying to be snobby but just thinking of a way to exclude sick dogs from puppy mills. In the past AKC meant "exclusive" purebred. I think if pet stores sell AKC puppy mill puppies, that doesn't convey quality. What if there was a new exclusive high quality registry for purebreds that had high standards which would exclude puppy mills from joining. If congenital defects were found, they wouldn't be elegible for registry. People would desire this registry to others. I'm not experienced with registries, it's just a thought. Also there could be a website that lists only Responsible Breeders.
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07-14-2005, 05:17 PM | #9 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida
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| Look at this story of Hope. It breaks my heart. i found the link from Stewie's Mom post about Petland. http://www.prisonersofgreed.org/Hope.html
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07-14-2005, 05:48 PM | #10 |
Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD
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| Puppy Mills will never be eradicated because of the amount of money they make AND the "instant gratification" mind-set so many of us seem to have. A pet shop/puppy miller would not make the sales and money they do if 1) we did not have to get what we want as soon as we think about it-impulse buying and 2) if they didn't offer credit plans that allow you to buy now-pay later... Those are probably 2 of the simplest reasons they will be here long after the responsible breeders and owners are gone. Puppy mills were nearlly non-existent 20 years ago. Now, they are rampant.. We can tippy-toe around this subject and worry about hurting someone's feelings or being threatened with legal action being taken. Hurt feelings will heal; the forsaken little puppy souls will be dead forever.. |
11-16-2005, 02:26 PM | #11 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: California
Posts: 43
| Um, what about pure bred rescues? And also, it is estimated that 30-70% of dogs in shelters are pure breeds. If you have some patience you can find a pure breed. |
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