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bellbuzz07 · 01-23-2008, 12:45 PM

okay does the seller have to give the purchaser a choice of the 3? or can the seller give the purchaser a choice? because the store owner did give me the option of getting a refund or getting a new puppy from his store... but i never heard the choice #3.... although i did finally get $488 from him to pay for her emergency visit... the warranty entitled him to pay for an emergency visit if it was for hereditary/congenital reasons and within 1 year of purchase. but $488 is not near the $1200 i payed for her. hmmmm... am i liable to more? the whole $1200?

katcarasella · 01-23-2008, 01:11 PM

I'm so sorry you're in this situation, I lost a 6 month old puppy to LS. I had to put over $3000.00 on my credit card to pay for her surgery's, but in the end she didn't make it. I'd of paid anything to keep her with us. If only I'd done more research on Breeders, I wouldn't have this hole in my heart.
I"ll never forget the 4 months we shared with her, They were the best

I wouldn't trade them for anything. My prayers are with you!
(R.I.P. Molly 04/15/03-10/10/03)

RebelBelle · 01-23-2008, 01:16 PM

Aww I'm sorry to hear that you are going through this. I hope you are able to find a way to get your baby the care she needs. Please know that you and your puppy are in my prayers.

maxs_momma · 01-23-2008, 01:19 PM

I am really sorry to hear that you and your baby are going through this but i have faith that it will all work out for you please keep us updated on your baby

mojo · 01-23-2008, 07:13 PM

Review this website - I think they offer financial aid options -

http://www.imom.org/

Good luck! I know it is so awful when your baby is sick!

And I commend you for not turning her back over to the pet store. They pretty much count on the fact that you won't and they don't really care what health issues these puppies have.

CC's · 01-23-2008, 07:23 PM

I am not from Calif. but from what I can tell the choice is yours whether or not to keep the ill pup. You would still be due up to 150% of the purchase price if vet bills are that high.

Here a link to the whole thing.
http://www.dogplay.com/Breeding/lemonlaw.html

You may also want to look in your yellow pages for some kind of consumer advocate to call for help. I think I would do this first thing tomorrow.

You only have 5 days to notify them of the diagnosis though, I think.
I would copy all your bills along with the surgery estimate. I would put in writing what you expect...150% - the 488 they gave you already.

Let them know you are serious and read the law.

I wish you luck and hope your baby gets treatment and well soon.

yorkiesmiles · 01-23-2008, 07:30 PM

if you end up having to deal with the vet clinic about payment, talk with the vet himself - hopefully he can intervene with any of office people & you don't have to.

Praying you find an answer for Bell very quickly.

Cookie2 · 01-23-2008, 07:36 PM

I know there might be no chance of this but could you personally talk with the pet store manager/owner? Show them the vet results of her tests. If she gets return there is a 99.9% that no one will get her surgery and she might die. You bought what you thought was a healthy pet. Your pet is now sick,they might be able to give you some money back. It doesn't hurt to go in person and show up with all your vet tests.
It's the same as having a child. No one expects to give birth to a sick child but it happens sometimes and most people can't afford treatment if they get diagnosed with something like this.
I totally understand how you don't have the heart to return her like you would a damaged radio etc.. That's exactly what petshops expect. Has your vet started her on a low protein diet and Marin or Denosyl? Both those meds help the liver work to flush out the toxins. Having a yorkie with L/S is very stressful. My yorkie has the liver shunt that can be controlled with diet . He turns 4 yrs old in March and doing well on the diet ( Hill's Science diet L/D can food)

I was going to suggest the Care Credit card but I just read that it was denied

I had to use it for a $1,300 surgery just to see if he had a shunt that could be repaired . I agree with some here that $2,400-$2,600 is a bit expensive. In florida it cost around $1,500

I wish I could help. The last option ,it's better than giving her back to the store. Would be to give her up to a Yorkie Rescue that will raise the money to get her surgery.At least she will get her surgery that she needs.
Again , I'm really so sorry to read this sad news.I know how much you must love her already in this short time you've had her.

Genie
Cookie
Lola
Angel

bellbuzz07 · 01-24-2008, 07:13 AM

okay so i have some news.... yesterday i made a visit to my vet and asked for a written statement, i pick it up today. also, i showed him the ca law, (puppy lemon law), and explained how i was entitled to 150% of bells cost for her vet bills... he agreed with me. he advised me to go to the pet store and explain to him what the law says. so, i left the vet and headed for the store. the owner is always there, and mind you he knows me, like i said he already gave me 488$. anyways, he gave me 1 min of explaining to him about the law and said. "i'm done talking to you, if you want anything take it to small claims." and that was it, he wanted NO further dicussion. but today, after i pick up the vet statement, im going over there one more time, because it's the law that i show him the vet statement, and im bringing a witness.... also, it is within 5 days, i just got the confirmed diagnosis 2 days ago.
thank you so much to CC's without you i would not of known anything about this law. luckily i learned in the appropriate time! but unfortunately it looks as if we'll be going to court, but i WILL take it there, that guy deserves it... and i did print the entire code section on this matter, and have thoroughly read it several times... and guys i have to say it looks like this guy is going down!... oh, but just in case, by boyfriend id calling attorneys today to seek some advice... geez sorry it's so long!----oh, yeah and bell is on all the right meds and L/D, she has been for about 5 months. she is actually symptom free as of now, and would like to keep it that way! again, thanks everyone.

TLC · 01-24-2008, 07:22 AM

So glad to hear the news, definately take that bastard down

So, is she schedule for her LS surgery yet?

maxs_momma · 01-24-2008, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellbuzz07

okay so i have some news.... yesterday i made a visit to my vet and asked for a written statement, i pick it up today. also, i showed him the ca law, (puppy lemon law), and explained how i was entitled to 150% of bells cost for her vet bills... he agreed with me. he advised me to go to the pet store and explain to him what the law says. so, i left the vet and headed for the store. the owner is always there, and mind you he knows me, like i said he already gave me 488$. anyways, he gave me 1 min of explaining to him about the law and said. "i'm done talking to you, if you want anything take it to small claims." and that was it, he wanted NO further dicussion. but today, after i pick up the vet statement, im going over there one more time, because it's the law that i show him the vet statement, and im bringing a witness.... also, it is within 5 days, i just got the confirmed diagnosis 2 days ago.
thank you so much to CC's without you i would not of known anything about this law. luckily i learned in the appropriate time! but unfortunately it looks as if we'll be going to court, but i WILL take it there, that guy deserves it... and i did print the entire code section on this matter, and have thoroughly read it several times... and guys i have to say it looks like this guy is going down!... oh, but just in case, by boyfriend id calling attorneys today to seek some advice... geez sorry it's so long!----oh, yeah and bell is on all the right meds and L/D, she has been for about 5 months. she is actually symptom free as of now, and would like to keep it that way! again, thanks everyone.

I am so glad that you are going through with nailing this guy he deserves to pay for this babies vet bills. He sounds like a real jerk in not wanting to even talk to you about it oh well guess you can always take him to court and burn his butt i bet then he will would have wished he would have talkexd to you about it hehe. I am so glad to here that little Bell is doing so well i we will keep her in our prayers that she continues to stay healthy

KathyinCali · 01-24-2008, 07:32 AM

Good for you! Taking a witness is great but if it were me, to really have paper proof you informed him of the law within the alloted time I would send an overnight Fedex letter, with the documents, requiring his signature. Also, if he has a fax machine, you can also send it to him by facsimile so you have the fax receipt.

Best of luck to you!

hooliacasa · 01-24-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanietoo

I know I'll get slammed for this and maybe I'm just in a bad mood BUT. So you spent ALL your money getting the test done for diagnosis but now you can't afford the treatment. Why bother? I'm sorry but people shouldn't get pets if they can't afford to take care of them. I can't imagine asking other people to give me a donation to take care of my obligations. Sorry if this offends anyone but it's just the way I feel.

WOW what a totally CRAPPY IMMATURE INSENSITIVE (and let me tell ya, I got better words to use, but I'm refraining) thing to say! Did your mother not teach you that if you have nothing nice to say KEEP YOUR %(*$#+@ mouth shut? She has a real problem and at least she loves this yorkie enough to take him/her to the vet in the first place - and she was looking for HELP and ADVICE not condenmation. You are one messed up person you know that? You're snotty and karma will come back and bite you in your butt (again I refrain from using the words I want to use).

daisy mae06 · 01-24-2008, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkiesmiles

if you end up having to deal with the vet clinic about payment, talk with the vet himself - hopefully he can intervene with any of office people & you don't have to.

Praying you find an answer for Bell very quickly.

This is Great advice...
I had a Golden that had to have two surgeries on his intestines.. (they were dying) my Vet ( not the clinic)
Said that she would do the Surgery again free of charge if it would make him better for good. But we all know that he didn't have enough intestine left to do surgery on... There are a lot of Compassionate vets out there.
I hope and pray you can find the help you need.

hha · 01-24-2008, 07:47 AM

Make sure you have a copy with you...I've seen some real son of a guns that will tear up a piece of paper like that right in front of you....

01-23-2008, 12:45 PM	#31
bellbuzz07 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: la mirada, ca Posts: 142	the code? okay does the seller have to give the purchaser a choice of the 3? or can the seller give the purchaser a choice? because the store owner did give me the option of getting a refund or getting a new puppy from his store... but i never heard the choice #3.... although i did finally get $488 from him to pay for her emergency visit... the warranty entitled him to pay for an emergency visit if it was for hereditary/congenital reasons and within 1 year of purchase. but $488 is not near the $1200 i payed for her. hmmmm... am i liable to more? the whole $1200? __________________ bella luna

01-23-2008, 01:16 PM	#33
RebelBelle Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Madison, MS Posts: 2,597	Aww I'm sorry to hear that you are going through this. I hope you are able to find a way to get your baby the care she needs. Please know that you and your puppy are in my prayers. __________________ Misty & Jamie

01-23-2008, 01:19 PM	#34
maxs_momma Living life with yorkies! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,722	I am really sorry to hear that you and your baby are going through this but i have faith that it will all work out for you please keep us updated on your baby __________________ Skeeta&Bella Max & Sam member's of the little gentlemens club R.I.P my little Chiquita Words can be like weapons so please be kind when you post

01-23-2008, 07:13 PM	#35
mojo Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Here, there Posts: 2,693	Review this website - I think they offer financial aid options - http://www.imom.org/ Good luck! I know it is so awful when your baby is sick! And I commend you for not turning her back over to the pet store. They pretty much count on the fact that you won't and they don't really care what health issues these puppies have. __________________ Bella (I miss you) Sachi Emmy

01-23-2008, 07:23 PM	#36
CC's YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 402	I am not from Calif. but from what I can tell the choice is yours whether or not to keep the ill pup. You would still be due up to 150% of the purchase price if vet bills are that high. Here a link to the whole thing. http://www.dogplay.com/Breeding/lemonlaw.html You may also want to look in your yellow pages for some kind of consumer advocate to call for help. I think I would do this first thing tomorrow. You only have 5 days to notify them of the diagnosis though, I think. I would copy all your bills along with the surgery estimate. I would put in writing what you expect...150% - the 488 they gave you already. Let them know you are serious and read the law. I wish you luck and hope your baby gets treatment and well soon. Last edited by CC's; 01-23-2008 at 07:25 PM.

01-23-2008, 01:11 PM	#32
katcarasella BANNED FOR STEALING YORKIETALK CONTENT! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago Area Posts: 1,175	I'm so sorry you're in this situation, I lost a 6 month old puppy to LS. I had to put over $3000.00 on my credit card to pay for her surgery's, but in the end she didn't make it. I'd of paid anything to keep her with us. If only I'd done more research on Breeders, I wouldn't have this hole in my heart. I"ll never forget the 4 months we shared with her, They were the best I wouldn't trade them for anything. My prayers are with you! (R.I.P. Molly 04/15/03-10/10/03)

01-23-2008, 07:30 PM	#37
yorkiesmiles Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,493	if you end up having to deal with the vet clinic about payment, talk with the vet himself - hopefully he can intervene with any of office people & you don't have to. Praying you find an answer for Bell very quickly. __________________ yorkiesmiles Loved by Bubba & Roxy *Holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come*

01-23-2008, 07:36 PM	#38
Cookie2 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,568	I know there might be no chance of this but could you personally talk with the pet store manager/owner? Show them the vet results of her tests. If she gets return there is a 99.9% that no one will get her surgery and she might die. You bought what you thought was a healthy pet. Your pet is now sick,they might be able to give you some money back. It doesn't hurt to go in person and show up with all your vet tests. It's the same as having a child. No one expects to give birth to a sick child but it happens sometimes and most people can't afford treatment if they get diagnosed with something like this. I totally understand how you don't have the heart to return her like you would a damaged radio etc.. That's exactly what petshops expect. Has your vet started her on a low protein diet and Marin or Denosyl? Both those meds help the liver work to flush out the toxins. Having a yorkie with L/S is very stressful. My yorkie has the liver shunt that can be controlled with diet . He turns 4 yrs old in March and doing well on the diet ( Hill's Science diet L/D can food) I was going to suggest the Care Credit card but I just read that it was denied I had to use it for a $1,300 surgery just to see if he had a shunt that could be repaired . I agree with some here that $2,400-$2,600 is a bit expensive. In florida it cost around $1,500 I wish I could help. The last option ,it's better than giving her back to the store. Would be to give her up to a Yorkie Rescue that will raise the money to get her surgery.At least she will get her surgery that she needs. Again , I'm really so sorry to read this sad news.I know how much you must love her already in this short time you've had her. Genie Cookie Lola Angel

01-24-2008, 07:13 AM	#39
bellbuzz07 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: la mirada, ca Posts: 142	update okay so i have some news.... yesterday i made a visit to my vet and asked for a written statement, i pick it up today. also, i showed him the ca law, (puppy lemon law), and explained how i was entitled to 150% of bells cost for her vet bills... he agreed with me. he advised me to go to the pet store and explain to him what the law says. so, i left the vet and headed for the store. the owner is always there, and mind you he knows me, like i said he already gave me 488$. anyways, he gave me 1 min of explaining to him about the law and said. "i'm done talking to you, if you want anything take it to small claims." and that was it, he wanted NO further dicussion. but today, after i pick up the vet statement, im going over there one more time, because it's the law that i show him the vet statement, and im bringing a witness.... also, it is within 5 days, i just got the confirmed diagnosis 2 days ago. thank you so much to CC's without you i would not of known anything about this law. luckily i learned in the appropriate time! but unfortunately it looks as if we'll be going to court, but i WILL take it there, that guy deserves it... and i did print the entire code section on this matter, and have thoroughly read it several times... and guys i have to say it looks like this guy is going down!... oh, but just in case, by boyfriend id calling attorneys today to seek some advice... geez sorry it's so long!----oh, yeah and bell is on all the right meds and L/D, she has been for about 5 months. she is actually symptom free as of now, and would like to keep it that way! again, thanks everyone. __________________ bella luna

01-24-2008, 07:22 AM	#40
TLC Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 7,247	So glad to hear the news, definately take that bastard down So, is she schedule for her LS surgery yet? __________________ Adopt Donate Foster www.yorkie911rescue.com

01-24-2008, 07:32 AM	#42
KathyinCali Love My Li'l Lucy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,700	Good for you! Taking a witness is great but if it were me, to really have paper proof you informed him of the law within the alloted time I would send an overnight Fedex letter, with the documents, requiring his signature. Also, if he has a fax machine, you can also send it to him by facsimile so you have the fax receipt. Best of luck to you! __________________ Kathy and Lil' Lucy and Jammies Rest in Peace my Sweet Buster

01-24-2008, 07:47 AM	#45
hha No Longer a Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seneca, SC Posts: 2,837	Make sure you have a copy with you...I've seen some real son of a guns that will tear up a piece of paper like that right in front of you....