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[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by blondie57

The Breed Standard is

Weight
Must not exceed seven pounds.

Um...I believe that was part of what she posted...
The breed standard stipulates that Yorkies must not be over 7 pounds

[Baron]

Originally Posted by blondie57

Boy I am just really confused. You state that breeding the structure down is NOT building a pure desirable foundation, nor breeding for the betterment of a breed!

Then you state that Yorkies were10-12 lbs. and By 1900, fanciers on both sides of the Atlantic had decided that the small size was preferable and made a concerted effort to breed a smaller Yorkie with even longer coat.

I am sorry but you can't have it both ways.

And when you use quotes make sure who ever you quote knows what they are talking about. The breed standard stipulates that Yorkies must not be over 7 pounds and, on average, adult Yorkies fall between a petite 5–7 pounds.

The Breed Standard is

Weight
Must not exceed seven pounds.

Just what exactly is it that you are searching for? Is it approval to breed tinies and sell them for outrageous prices? You will not get that from any decent breeder that wants to adhere to the standard of these precious dogs. No one can tell you what to do or what not to do, but don't look for approval for disregarding the standard of the Yorkshire Terrier. You don't have to be a member of the YTCA to want to keep the dog as close to the standard as possible.

[shelbysmom]

Originally Posted by tiggerr36792

Again I'm not asking ABOUT YOU

How do you explain this?????

If Show breeders don't breed for tinies how can this reputable show breeder guarantee under 3 lbs for 3500.00????????
http://rondelkennels.com/nursery.html

So are you saying this breeder is not reputable????

I think it's important to understand that ANYONE can show, and they may even have Champions. But not everyone that shows is a member of YTCA or necessarily ethical. ( Members agree to the code of ethics.)

The YTCA has been around for many years and they have a geniune concern for the breed. As pet owners I think it's probably smart to understand and believe what they have to say.

While it may be possible to breed tiny healthy Yorkies, why is necessary? There just aren't THAT many people around that should actually own such a tiny creature that requires extra care and caution. As adorable as they are, they are not for everyone.

[PrestigeousYT]

I have a little one right now, 5 months and 24 ounces.
I had thought he would be of size, his sire is one of my CH and his dam is pointed. But he is staying little. 5 1/2 inch square. I keep sprinkling Miracle Grow on him LOL but its not working.
He is beautiful and just makes me so sad to see him not grow.
I have had a lot of people wanting him but he is not available for any amount of money.
He will stay with us because I would hate to hand him off to someone and take a chance on his life and to possibly set someone up for heartbreak. They are indeed special needs when they are little ones. No denying they are adorable but not when they bottom out so easily, if he were to get sick I know his chances to pull thru are very poor.
I don't think people who buy the little ones realize that and I doubt that this discussion takes place between breeder and new owner with how terribly awful/possibly fatal it is when the pup needs to be put under that it will likely kill them. I do think they tell them about hypoglycemia but not the whole story of how bad the small size affects everything in the pups future. The whole idea to breed for this small is unfair to the pup and the new owners.
Thats my take on it and I have experienced the little ones and I wouldn't wish that on any puppy or any new owner.
This is the Special Little Guy in our life.

Deana
Prestigeous

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by shelbysmom

I think it's important to understand that ANYONE can show, and they may even have Champions. But not everyone that shows is a member of YTCA or necessarily ethical. ( Members agree to the code of ethics.)

The YTCA has been around for many years and they have a geniune concern for the breed. As pet owners I think it's probably smart to understand and believe what they have to say.

While it may be possible to breed tiny healthy Yorkies, why is necessary? There just aren't THAT many people around that should actually own such a tiny creature that requires extra care and caution. As adorable as they are, they are not for everyone.

I'm going to interject here and I don't know how relevant it is. I'm a breeder/exhibitor.....but, before that I wanted a Yorkie and a Tiny....I based everything on weight. I knew nothing about the standard, just wanted a tiny. As time evolved and I decided I wanted to show, I emersed myself in the breed, soaking up everything...learned that if I wanted to start my own line it would have to be done the way YTCA intended (because this organization didn't get there by snapping their fingers, those that established it have been there and done that and are the foundation of the breed). I learned alot about tinies and how some breeders breed them for the sole purpose of satisfying the market and monetary gains. Why else do we see websites with larger prices on the tinies.

[Yorkiesforever]

I just read this whole thread and it is very interesting. To say the least.

[feminvstr]

Originally Posted by blondie57

Boy I am just really confused. You state that breeding the structure down is NOT building a pure desirable foundation, nor breeding for the betterment of a breed!

Then you state that Yorkies were10-12 lbs. and By 1900, fanciers on both sides of the Atlantic had decided that the small size was preferable and made a concerted effort to breed a smaller Yorkie with even longer coat.

I am sorry but you can't have it both ways.

And when you use quotes make sure who ever you quote knows what they are talking about. The breed standard stipulates that Yorkies must not be over 7 pounds and, on average, adult Yorkies fall between a petite 5–7 pounds.

The Breed Standard is

Weight
Must not exceed seven pounds.

STEP into 2008 and follow the most current guildlines. You continue posting simply to justify breeding tinies and their price tag....there is no absolution for breeding and risking 3lb females for PROF$T!

Post all your whyfors, twist the history of the yorkshire terrier to your marketing benifit, all the way to the bank!

[tiggerr36792]

Originally Posted by shelbysmom

I think it's important to understand that ANYONE can show, and they may even have Champions. But not everyone that shows is a member of YTCA or necessarily ethical. ( Members agree to the code of ethics.)

The YTCA has been around for many years and they have a geniune concern for the breed. As pet owners I think it's probably smart to understand and believe what they have to say.

While it may be possible to breed tiny healthy Yorkies, why is necessary? There just aren't THAT many people around that should actually own such a tiny creature that requires extra care and caution. As adorable as they are, they are not for everyone.

I never said it is was necessary!

[feminvstr]

Originally Posted by Baron

Just what exactly is it that you are searching for? Is it approval to breed tinies and sell them for outrageous prices? You will not get that from any decent breeder that wants to adhere to the standard of these precious dogs. No one can tell you what to do or what not to do, but don't look for approval for disregarding the standard of the Yorkshire Terrier. You don't have to be a member of the YTCA to want to keep the dog as close to the standard as possible.

they actually know better...I think once again its a test to see if we are all paying attention

direct quote from their site

A 5-7 lb yorkie is the average size of the yorkshire terrier breed, and these are still small dogs. Becuse we specialize in the puppies that are going to be under 5 lbs we won't have as many puppies on this page. But because we are always trying to improve our yorkies and one needs dogs that are of breeding size

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by tiggerr36792

I never said it is was necessary!

I dont' think that comment was directed at you.

[tiggerr36792]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I dont' think that comment was directed at you.

Thx!!! It was a quote in post 123 which was mine so I felt it was, thx for clearing it up.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by tiggerr36792

Thx!!! It was a quote in post 123 which was mine so I felt it was, thx for clearing it up.

Nope...not you...it was meant for someone else.

[mistyinca]

I just can't fathom paying $3000-$5000 for a non-show-quality yorkie. I recently had the opportunity to get a top-quality, line-bred, show-quality yorkie on a show contract for $3500. I have also heard of contract, co-ownership show yorkies for as low as $2500. There is no reason, whatsoever to pay this much unless it comes from a show breeder and has been determined to be show quality (which can't even be realized until close to 5 months of age!)

My Chloe is a pet yorkie, and I paid $900 for her. And I wouldn't pay more than $1200 for a pet quality yorkie.

[blondie57]

Here is a direct quote from her site

"You simply have a very small dog, with the exception of the "standard".."

How is a small yorkie an exception to the standard?

[Nikki+2]

Well I am not a breeder but I have been drooling over your website. Your dogs are gorgeous!