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[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

CHAPTER 3 REGISTRATION

SECTION 6. No litter of purebred dogs and/or no
single purebred dog which shall be determined by The
American Kennel Club to be acceptable in all other
respects for registration, shall be barred from registration
because of the failure, by the legal owner of all or part of
said litter, or said single dog to obtain some one or more
of the signatures needed to complete the applicant’s chain
of title to the litter or dog sought to be registered, unless
that person who, when requested, refuses to sign the
application form shall furnish a reason therefor satisfacto-
ry to The American Kennel Club, such as the fact that at
the time of service an agreement in writing was made
between the owner of the sire and the owner or lessee of
the dam to the effect that no application for registration
should be made and/or that the produce of such union
should not be registered. In all cases where such an
agreement in writing has been made, any person dispos-
ing of any of the produce of such union must secure from
the new owner a statement in writing that he received
such produce upon the understanding that it shall not be
registered. For the purpose of registering or refusing to
register purebred dogs The American Kennel Club will
recognize only such conditional sale or conditional stud
agreements affecting the registration of purebred dogs as
are in writing and are shown to have been brought to the
attention of the applicant for registration. The American
Kennel Club cannot recognize alleged conditional sale,
conditional stud or other agreements not in writing which
affect the registration of purebred dogs, until after the
existence, construction and/or effect of the same shall
have been determined by an action at law.
The owner or owners of a stud dog purebred and eli-
gible for registration who in print or otherwise asserts
or assert it to be purebred and eligible for registration
and on the strength of such assertion secures or per-
mits its use at stud, must pay the cost of its registra-
tion. The owner or owners of a brood bitch purebred
and eligible for registration who in print or otherwise
asserts or assert it to be purebred and eligible for reg-
istration and on the strength of such assertion leases it
or sells its produce or secures the use of a stud by
promising a puppy or puppies as payment of the stud
fee in lieu of cash, must pay the cost of its registration.
That person or those persons refusing without cause
to sign the application form or forms necessary for the
registration of a litter of purebred dogs or of a single
purebred dog and that person or those persons refusing
without cause to pay the necessary fees due from him,
her or them to be paid in order to complete the chain of
title to a purebred litter or a purebred single dog sought
to be registered, when requested by The American
Kennel Club, may be suspended from the privileges of
The American Kennel Club or fined as the Board of
Directors of The American Kennel Club may elect.
The registration of a single purebred dog out of a lit-
ter eligible for registration may be secured by its legal
owner as a one-dog litter registration and the balance
of the litter may be refused registration where the
breeder or the owner or lessee of the dam at the date
of whelping wrongfully has refused to register the litter
and that person or those persons so wrongfully refus-
ing shall be suspended from the privileges of The
American Kennel Club or fined as the Board of
Directors of The American Kennel Club may elect.

what did you not understand here...it plainly reads NO ONE can register a litter without the others signature...UNLESS you signed contact.

Unless there was a court case and/or a contract there is no way that she could have registered these pups without your signing the litter registration papers.

[YorkieRose]

So what you are saying is..I have no "pull" with AKC? LOL

I have known far too many of these situations and it is good for a novice or foggy brains to see it in print...
I do know of several breeders who refused to sign papers when they suppected the pups were not from their stud etc....one was okay with AKC because the litter was a Maltese mix (bitch owner has a Maltese male) and she was told the litter would not be accepted, plus she was within her rights to keep the stud fee since the service was provided and the bitch owner was at fault for accidently breeding...

BUT when another breeder discovered she had been lied to about where the pups were being placed she refused to sign...they had a signed contract and AKC told stud owner to sign or be suspended..she signed.

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

If everyone just did what they wanted with the breed (which many do..which is why so many dogs are out of standard) there wouldn't be a Yorkshire Terrier anymore...you'd have so many sizes, colors, hair types, body types, etc. that no one would even know what to look for anymore. There has to be group set standards and ethics and that's what the YTCA does. Not only do they set the standard, they set ethical guidelines for breeders - many of these ethics such as not allowing for "teacups" or letting pups go before 12 weeks is for the health and safety of the dogs

I agree.

[lisatodd]

i cannot get passed the part where this breeder (op) did not know what ytca is. how could a yorkie breeder not know?????

[lisatodd]

i also wanted to ask this of the op.....who's puppies are these? yours or elvis yorkies? what is your association with elvis?

[lisatodd]

one other question....
you have ytca on your website and you didn't know what it is?

this was copied from your site

Do Teacup Yorkshire Terriers Exist?
This is where the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and many show breeders have been very deceptive in an attempt to confuse the general public.

If one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as a dog breed the answer is NO, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO NOT EXIST.

The answer is YES, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO EXIST if one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as an extra small Yorkshire Terrier where teacup or extra small are meant as adjectives describing the noun Yorkshire Terrier. Just as AKC Yorkshire Terriers, Female Yorkshire Terriers, Champion Yorkshire Terriers, Chocolate Yorkshire Terriers, Blue and Gold Yorkshire Terriers, and Etc. exist.

This is a section of an article on the YTCA website:

[BamaFan121s]

I believe that sometimes she has Elvis Yorkshires list her pups for sale on their site...?

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

one other question....
you have ytca on your website and you didn't know what it is?
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Hmm...interesting...

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

one other question....
you have ytca on your website and you didn't know what it is?

this was copied from your site

Do Teacup Yorkshire Terriers Exist?
This is where the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and many show breeders have been very deceptive in an attempt to confuse the general public.

If one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as a dog breed the answer is NO, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO NOT EXIST.

The answer is YES, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO EXIST if one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as an extra small Yorkshire Terrier where teacup or extra small are meant as adjectives describing the noun Yorkshire Terrier. Just as AKC Yorkshire Terriers, Female Yorkshire Terriers, Champion Yorkshire Terriers, Chocolate Yorkshire Terriers, Blue and Gold Yorkshire Terriers, and Etc. exist.

This is a section of an article on the YTCA website:

Amazing and I'll say it again Teacups come with saucers, not with tails.

Reputable breeders do not sell their tinies or if they do, they don't raise the price because they are small....but, place them in an approved home that is familiar with the care of these wee ones.....why would we sell heartache......

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Hmm...interesting...

The bus is rolling along again

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by nlappegard

i did report them but when your above all politics take over and your name makes the diffence on what happens did you know if your champion male accidently bred a female the person would have the right to register the litter without you signiture according to AKC rules and regulations Chapter 3 section 6 and you wouldn't even recieve a stud fee. Or the right for them to give you a puppy back. This is what happened to me and I have had several people offer to finish my other male who has 6pts already but if this is the way things are i have no interest in this world of politics you could hire someone ring side to show your dog and if they are the right person your dog will win this is just the way it has been for me any ways. I don't live my life that way i would rather be home with all my babies and enjoy all the joy and happiness they have to give they are so much fun. they have unconditional love there is never a day that goes by that they haven't made me smile. I really appreciate all they have given me with out my babies i would be lost they give total fofilment in my life and a reason to live in this mixed up world we all live in

You might attempt to enter the UKC ring.....it's my understanding that there is no politics and much easier to Champion a dog there

[feminvstr]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

So what you are saying is..I have no "pull" with AKC? LOL

I have known far too many of these situations and it is good for a novice or foggy brains to see it in print...
I do know of several breeders who refused to sign papers when they suppected the pups were not from their stud etc....one was okay with AKC because the litter was a Maltese mix (bitch owner has a Maltese male) and she was told the litter would not be accepted, plus she was within her rights to keep the stud fee since the service was provided and the bitch owner was at fault for accidently breeding...

BUT when another breeder discovered she had been lied to about where the pups were being placed she refused to sign...they had a signed contract and AKC told stud owner to sign or be suspended..she signed.

LOL guess not Rose...I was looking for the words like "politics, influence" but gosh I couldnt find them anywhere...

the OP asking the who, what, when and where about the YTCA, alas, was just a ploy, she obviously knew, I bet it was a test for all of us to see if we are paying attention

[bjh]

Originally Posted by nlappegard

What Is Ytca Exactly? Are They A Part Of Akc? How Many People Does It Consist Of? Do They Take Votes From The Public On Matters Discussing The Changes They Make? Or It Is Just These People That Decide Out Of The Whole United States As To What A Yorkie Should Be And What Rules Should Be Follows?

It sort of reminds me of how our government is ran. A small group of people that really care make important decisions and give direction on how the Yorkshire Terrier should be. Everyone does not alway agree on everything but they try to work together for the betterment of the breed. There are also local breed clubs and kennel clubs that all work together. And just like in politics there might be a few bad apples but over all they do a great thing. We all have one thing in common....we love our Yorkies.

[tiggerr36792]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

LOL guess not Rose...I was looking for the words like "politics, influence" but gosh I couldnt find them anywhere...

the OP asking the who, what, when and where about the YTCA, alas, was just a ploy, she obviously knew, I bet it was a test for all of us to see if we are paying attention

Hahahaha thats hilarious!!

[cj125]

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Teacup Yorkies or Teacup Yorkshire Terriers Do They Exist?

This is a question that keeps coming up because of a lot of deceptive information distributed by the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and many Show Breeders.
Do Teacup Yorkies Exist?

The answer to this question is technically NO. The reason being that Yorkie is a slang term for Yorkshire Terrier and AKC only recognizes the Yorkshire Terrier. There is no Yorkie Breed. Now if you accept that Yorkie can be used interchangeably with Yorkshire Terrier then you need to read further.
Do Teacup Yorkshire Terriers Exist?

This is where the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and many show breeders have been very deceptive in an attempt to confuse the general public.
If one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as a dog breed the answer is NO, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO NOT EXIST.
The answer is YES, TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIERS DO EXIST if one is referring to a Teacup Yorkshire Terrier as an extra small Yorkshire Terrier where teacup or extra small are meant as adjectives describing the noun Yorkshire Terrier. Just as AKC Yorkshire Terriers, Female Yorkshire Terriers, Champion Yorkshire Terriers, Chocolate Yorkshire Terriers, Blue and Gold Yorkshire Terriers, and Etc. exist.
This is a section of an article on the YTCA website:

"An Important Message About "Teacup" Yorkies"

"If you are interested in purchasing a tiny Yorkie, sometimes called a Teacup, Micro Mini, Teenie, or any other name that means "extra small", there are several things you should consider. The YTCA's Code of Ethics precludes the use of the words "teacup", "tiny specialists", doll faced, or similar terminology by its members, and for good reason."
Three things are interesting from this section:
1. They broke their own code of ethics in the first sentence by using "tiny Yorkie".
2. They are only concerned about adjectives that mean extra small but yet they threw in the word doll face, which has nothing to do with size. I will go into detail about YTCA's code of Ethics in the article, The How and Why's of the Deceptive Practices of YTCA and many Show Breeders.
3. They are acknowledging that the people using the terms Teacup, Micro Mini, Teenie, and etc. are using the terms as adjectives modifying the noun Yorkie and are not tying to imply a new Yorkshire Terrier Breed as many show breeders profess.
Personally, I don't know of a single breeder that ever thought that a Teacup Yorkie was another breed of Yorkshire Terriers and I know that whenever I'm talking to someone and I sense that they think that a Teacup Yorkie is a different breed than the Yorkshire Terrier I try to educate them on the facts.
For the publics sake, the ethical and professional way to handle any misunderstandings about the term Teacup Yorkshire Terrier could have been as simple as stating:
TEACUP YORKSHIRE TERRIER, MINIATURE YORKSHIRE TERRIER, AND ETC. REFERS TO A SMALLER THAN USUAL YORKSHIRE TERRIER AND IS NOT A NEW YORKSHIRE TERRIER BREED.

Courtesy of Elvis Yorkshire Terrier

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