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12-16-2007, 07:35 AM | #1 |
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| Backyard Breeder?? Ok I may sound like a complete idiot.. But i know im going to be on the search for a male soon soo. What is a Backyard Breeder??? I know what a puppy mill is ( or so i think atleast).. My idea of a Backyard Breeder is someone who raises there puppies out side and don't really care for them?? am i close? and a Puppy Mill... Someone who has tons of Dogs locked up and just breed them and pretty much don't have nothing to do with them? Like i said i know this sounds like a stupid question but I really need to know... I mean i refuse to purchase a baby who lives in these conditions ... Altough i would wanna save a baby from it... |
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12-16-2007, 08:21 AM | #2 | |
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12-16-2007, 08:34 AM | #3 |
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12-16-2007, 08:56 AM | #4 |
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| Make sure there aren't many different kids of dogs and not too many dogs in general. Make sure you SEE the parents. Ask for a pedigree. It's best if the person shows their dogs, rather than just had puppies because they thought their dog was cute. My trainer breeds labs and she only breeds her girls AFTER they have been finished in the show ring (she calls it the beauty pagent) AND the obedience ring. Make sure the dogs live in the house and not in the garage or outbuilding. They need constant socialization with littermates and humans. Puppies should be with mom until 12 weeks old. Also, try petfinder.com and your shelters first. Sometimes it's hard to find Yorkies but it's worth checking first!
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12-16-2007, 06:15 PM | #6 | |
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12-16-2007, 06:22 PM | #7 |
No Longer a Member | The meaning varies. For some, a backyard breeder is anyone who breeds dogs that have not been championed. For others, it refers to someone who gets any pair of parent dogs and breeds them without any consideration for their background or the quality the breeding pair will produce. Certainly, there are those; however, there are many non-showing breeders who put more consideration and thought into their breeding stock and the puppies they strive to produce. |
12-16-2007, 06:24 PM | #8 | |
My Tiny Treasures Donating Member | I can tell you! I have a spoiled rotten example from one Years ago when I got my very 1st yorkie I bought Rogan. I went to their house to look at thier pups. The man brought them in from outside in a bucket. YES A BUCKET!!!) I ask to see the parents and was taken outside to this large fenced in area with like a barn. The dogs lived in the barn and there were all kinds just running around. He pointed at 2 of them and said there they are. (ahhh ya, ok?) So I couldn't leave this pup, I had to take him. He WAS adorable. He's now neutered. weighs 15 pounds, (well maybe a bit more he's been enjoying alot of treats lately) and after 2 different knee surgeries on both knees (double surgery TWICE) for LP, he seems to be doing fine. Oh and they didn't have AKC papers for the pups and they only charged $300 for males. We love Rogan to death and wouldn't trade him for anything - but THAT to me, is what a BYB is. Quote:
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12-16-2007, 06:36 PM | #9 |
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| Whether the puppies are raised inside or outside has nothing to do with being a backyard breeder. Backyard Breeders Every breed of dog recognized by the AKC has a written standard, a blueprint of what the dog should look like and act like. These standards were written so that all would know what a quality example of the breed is and strive to produce dogs that meet or exceed the standard in health, temperament and appearance. To be sure you are breeding dogs that meet these standards, your dogs must be judged by people who have a lifetime of experience among the breed. Do you know the standard of the Pure Breed Dog? Does your dog meet this standard according to an AKC Judge? If not, your dog is pet quality. A pet is to be loved, cherished, trained, cared for, spoiled and bragged about, but it is NEVER to be bred. No matter how cute or sweet the dog may be, if it is not up to the standard, you have no business breeding it. If you have a purebred dog this does not give you the right to breed it. Most purebred dogs are not breeding quality. If you breed your pet quality dog, you are a backyard breeder, whether you breed the dog in your backyard, garage, living room or an expensive hotel room, the term is still backyard breeder. If your pet quality dog has AKC papers, that's nice but it doesn't change anything. You still don't have the right to breed it. If your pet quality dog cost you $500 be glad you had the money to afford it. You still have no right to breed it. Do you think you can make your $500 back if you breed your pet dog or if your pet dog is a color or size that isn't in the standard but you just know everyone will want buy a pup if you breed her? Shame on you! Now you are a backyard breeder with the purpose of breeding pups for bucks. Ware you going to do when your beloved pet needs an emergency C section. Will you even be there with her to know if she is in trouble? Would you recognize trouble before it's too late? Do you think genetic testing is something they used in the OJ trial but has nothing to do with your dog breeding career? You are a backyard breeder. Backyard breeders sell pups that aren't up to the standard of the breed. They do this for many reasons. None are good enough reasons to contribute to the killing of dogs. Period. Backyard breeders will swear all of their pups went to a good home. They believe this but it's not true. Some may have been lucky enough to go to a good home but more than half of them will end up dead, in a shelter, alone, on a cold table with a needle sticking out of their leg. Some of those good homes will get tired of the dog and they will just give it away to anyone who is willing to take it. Some of your beloved dog's children will end up living alone in a backyard, barking all night, cold and neglected until the owner gets complaints and then that pups will be dead. Some will be starved and beaten. Some will be bred until they die from it. Some will end up in rescue and I will have to find space for it in my home and I will have to show it that not all humans are bad. I will train it, and feed it the proper food so it can heal. I will take the fleas off of it and I will get rid of the worms. I will give it the shots it should have had but no one remembered to give it. I will do these things because the backyard breeder didn't do it and wouldn't take the dog back when it was 2 years old and full of problems. I will spay or neuter that pup before I find it a new home so that I will never have to rescue one of it's pups and so I can be sure it will never end up in the hands of another backyard breeder looking to make profit from puppies. Backyard breeders are not responsible pet owners. They think they love the dogs but it's not really true because they don't really want to be bothered with doing all that it takes to breed ethically. They love feeling important when they say "I breed "Pure Breed dogs"". But breeding pet dogs isn't something to be proud of. If a shame on our society. It's the reason for the killing that goes on in shelters. Why do you want to be part of that? Do you want to be respected? Spay or neuter you pet dog. There's really no other way. The kind of homes you want for your pet pups don't want to buy from you. They are looking for responsible, respected breeders who are doing something for the breed as a whole. Most of those who will come running to buy your pups are the kind of people I wouldn't give a dog I didn't like to. They are the ones who will turn your puppy into a shelter when the novelty wears off. That's a fact. Want to stop the problem of killing 1 Million dogs a month all over America? Spay or neuter your pet dog now and tell everyone you know to do the same and leave the breeding to the people who are doing something to better the breed. http://www.nbran.org/breedornot.htm |
12-16-2007, 06:45 PM | #10 | |
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I'm sure they are raised both inside and outside. I'm also sure everyone has many different stories too! | |
12-16-2007, 07:22 PM | #11 |
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| Great post Ladymom!!!! |
12-16-2007, 07:51 PM | #12 |
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| Ladymom - that has got to be one of the best articles I have ever read. Thank you for posting it.
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12-16-2007, 08:14 PM | #13 | |
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12-17-2007, 12:16 AM | #14 |
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12-17-2007, 05:51 PM | #15 | |
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Thank you for clearing that up for me.. I would hate to get a puppy from someone like that... As far as breeding my lil girl i surely dout im going to do so... When i take her for her last set of shots im going to see about getting her fixed actually... But thank you for informing me there is more to the term "Backyard Breeder" then what i thought ... I mean i guess in a way the girl i did get my lil one from was a back yard breeder... But i was not getting her to breed her.. yes people have asked me if i would and i would tell them i don't know i dout it.. It scared me when my other dog got pregnate.. I was worried sick.. i would prob have a nervus breck down if my lil baby would be.. and i didn't get her to be a show dog except to be in my liveing room shows when i dress her and talk about her 24/7 to anyone and everyone i know... its sad to read that most of the "backyard breeders" don't care about where there dogs go... But againi would like to thank you for clearing this up for me like i said i am going to be on the look for a male soon.. but not for breeding or showing.. Just to have another lil furbaby to love and so Mi can have a little brother... | |
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