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other than that I'm going to stay out of this thread...there have already been plenty of debates on chocolates and it's pretty clear where the YTCA and AKC stand on them |
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That is not why YTCA banned chocolate yorkies. They banned them because they, as well as all the other designer colors, are incorrect. They did not ban them from being registered as AKC. Showing is for exhibiting your breeding stock and these designer colors are faults and shound not be bred or included in showing for that reason. they never said anything about rare breeds. |
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Parti and chocolate are not "Designer colors", they are Yorkshire terriers who carry recessive genes for those colors, just like Blue and tan yorkies carry a dominate gene for gray. Don't be fooled, many of those blue and tan dogs also carry "hidden" recessive genes for chocolate and parti too (as we've seen) ... but I guess that's A-OK, just as long as you don't know it or don't see it? Seems strange though, that the off colored Black and tan, Black and gold and Blue and gold Yorkies were allowed to show and win, prior to the disqualification rule but now they are no longer allowed to show. Of course since no age limit was voted on, as to when a pups coat had to turn blue by, I have a feeling that some black coated dogs will still show - just stating that their dog is slow to turn blue. I guess time will tell on that one. |
[QUOTE=Pinehaven;1548556] Parti and chocolate are not "Designer colors", they are Yorkshire terriers who carry recessive genes for those colors, just like Blue and tan yorkies carry a dominate gene for gray. Don't be fooled, many of those blue and tan dogs also carry "hidden" recessive genes for chocolate and parti too (as we've seen) ... but I guess that's A-OK, just as long as you don't know it or don't see it?{Quote} I think the breeder will call it that but you are so right that word is really confusing "designer". I'm sure no expert in registration but isn't that why it is important these faults be registered so we know where they are in a line:confused: |
This argument goes on and on. The people that breed the "off colors" will never understand the yorkshire terrier standard simply because they have no desire to. That would mean that what they are doing is wrong, there I said it... I have seen some of us called chocolate haters which is ridiculous, I have never hated any little dog, I doubt anyone here has. What I DO hate is for breeders to muddy up the perception of it so that people think they are getting something fabulous when in fact they are getting just what they are called, an off color. |
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I've done studying on some of the new parti bloodlines and I just can't find any common links at this point because there many are generations of traditional colored carriers. It's not just the pups' mom and dad who are carriers but one of each of their grand parents, one of each of their great grand parents .... and on and on. |
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Something To Think About pg. 213 from "the complete yorkshire terrier' by gordon and bennett quote: The people who wove the description of the Yorkshire Terrier into a breed standard were very adept at animal husbandry. For nearly on hundred years their knowledge, which gained them advancement in the days of carriage trade, has stood to the advantage of the Yorkie maintaining the breed's distinguishing points. The new scientific understanding of color pigmentation of hair can bu used to ensure us better Yorkies. It must be realized that we can no longer think only in terms of Mendelian genetics, where we have simple dominant and recessive effects governing the development of a trait. We are dealing multiple genes affecting the hairs coloration, each pair of genes (alleles) contribute to the desired trait. Each has a recessive and dominant form, but it is the number of gene pairs and their independent behavior from the other contributing genes during the process of recombination at fretilization that makes for the attainment of the Yorkies' desired prime important points of coat color and texture. end quote excuse mistakes I was typing fast to get this in one post |
This is why getting the correct coat in texture, color, and quantity is such a challenge for breeders. I can honestly say that as a breeder I will never get bored with Yorkies! |
I call them designer colors because of the people that are purposefully breeding to get these faulty colors. I forgot that the labradoodle and the puggle, etc are called by some people designer dogs. I just call them mixes or mutts. |
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I really dont need anyone to tell me what a mutt is. And , yes, there might be alot of people surprised when and if they can do a test to see what is in the background of a dog, especially the byb crowd. But I doubt very much if the died in the wool reputable, experienced breeders/exhibitors will have much to worry about. |
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