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DesertChildAZ · 06-22-2007, 09:25 AM

By the way, I'm told Cash will be 5 pounds fully grown (he's currently about 3.75 pounds) and Tahoe is 10 pounds. So, Cash is just a bit more than 1/3 Tahoe's size. I had the same concerns when I first got Cash as you do. Like I said, give it some time...the behaviorist should be able to help. Don't let it stress you out too much. Remember, these little guys can detect our every emotion.

vainchick5 · 06-22-2007, 09:52 AM

I think everyone has given you great advice here but just to add. I would most definitely watch them play for 15 minutes at a time and if sugar gets aggressive you need to show her who the pack leader is, YOU! If she gets aggressive you immediately place her (without hurting her) on her back and give her a firm NO. This will teach her that YOU are the pack leader and she is not to reprimand or become aggressive as it is not her place in the pack. There's no magic formula or wand to wave around, so this takes time and it may not work for the first few times but eventually there will be an understanding.

lcbear · 06-22-2007, 01:00 PM

I was wondering if it was just rough play also. I have a 3 yr 14 lb yorkie female, a 9 month 7 lb boy and a 4 month 4 lb female. When the two older ones (the 14 lb and 7lb) first started playing with the little one, my hubby and I were very afraid the little one would be hurt. There was a lot of growling but never any aggression. They play extremely hard, in fact we separate the baby but most of the time she starts the playing and ends the playing. It is funny to see the little one "take on" the other two and "win". She takes their toys and they don't seem to mind. Every once in a while the oldest will put the two pups in line but she never hurts them. I guess we are lucky that so far everyone gets along great. If one is out of the crate, that one will bug us to let the other two out. It is great to see the three play. But like I said, they sometimes play very rough and hard and noisy but that is just they way they play.

I know this is not much help but maybe it is just the older one putting the younger one in check. I would monitor them at all times though just to be sure. I still do watch them at all times.

Judy in Waco · 06-22-2007, 04:38 PM

Isn't it amazing how miracles work? While we were working on finding a behaviorist/trainer for this situation, we were contacted by a friend who had heard about our struggle with Sugar and Gizmo. She really likes Sugar and asked if she could take her. We were shocked at first. We hadn't even considered rehoming her, but we thought about it a lot. She has a great rapport with Sugar, wants an inside dog and isn't interested in getting any others, she grew up with dogs and has a lot of experience with them. She is well aware of the situation. Sugar needs that. She was fine with us until we brought Gizmo into the equation, now Sugar's miserable. After consulting once again with Sugar's rescue foster mom, we have rehomed her. I am sad, but I feel a sense of peace about the whole thing. I have always believed in a higher power..a kind and loving God, and this has just reaffirmed that faith. We will keep in close contact with Sugar's new mommy, and we truly believe this is the best situation for Sugar and our yorkie puppy Gizmo. Now Gizmo is much safer and more secure with us, and Sugar is in a much less stressful situation.

Miracles are amazing! Thank you all for your support during this difficult time.

sweetr72 · 06-22-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Judy in Waco

Isn't it amazing how miracles work? While we were working on finding a behaviorist/trainer for this situation, we were contacted by a friend who had heard about our struggle with Sugar and Gizmo. She really likes Sugar and asked if she could take her. We were shocked at first. We hadn't even considered rehoming her, but we thought about it a lot. She has a great rapport with Sugar, wants an inside dog and isn't interested in getting any others, she grew up with dogs and has a lot of experience with them. She is well aware of the situation. Sugar needs that. She was fine with us until we brought Gizmo into the equation, now Sugar's miserable. After consulting once again with Sugar's rescue foster mom, we have rehomed her. I am sad, but I feel a sense of peace about the whole thing. I have always believed in a higher power..a kind and loving God, and this has just reaffirmed that faith. We will keep in close contact with Sugar's new mommy, and we truly believe this is the best situation for Sugar and our yorkie puppy Gizmo. Now Gizmo is much safer and more secure with us, and Sugar is in a much less stressful situation.

Miracles are amazing! Thank you all for your support during this difficult time.

I think thats the greatest thing that could have happened...sounds like the perfect arrangement..and you can still see Sugar too and know she is being well cared for..Im happy for you and Sugar and Gizmo..

Dawn

Judy in Waco · 06-22-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetr72

I think thats the greatest thing that could have happened...sounds like the perfect arrangement..and you can still see Sugar too and know she is being well cared for..Im happy for you and Sugar and Gizmo..

Dawn

Thank you. It was an incredibly hard decision, but we think we made the right one.

Ozzie'sperson · 06-22-2007, 05:56 PM

Glad it worked out!

We had to slowly introduce a stray kitten we took in last year to Ozzie. Wasn't so concerned about Oz, as we were about the kitten, Toby, attacking HIM. The cat likes to push him around and, for the most part, Ozzie tolerates it. He's a good sport and pretty good-natured guy. For the most part, they get along.

I know Ozzie likes so sniff him incessantly which makes the cat crazy, and he will occasionally bat at him. We try to keep after Oz so he doesn't pester him asmuch but I guess Toby found his own way to handle it. Last night, Ozzie was laying on the floor by me and Toby politely came up, sniffed oz and then BIT HIM IN THE FACE. I had to hit him to make him let go!

Sometimes it's just like human siblings ...

Judy in Waco · 06-23-2007, 07:32 PM

Oh wow! I am trying very hard NOT to laugh, but how can you not laugh? I hope Ozzie wasn't hurt too badly!

Thanks again for everyone's support!

DesertChildAZ · 06-25-2007, 07:33 AM

Maybe I'm misreading this, but isn't Sugar your original dog that you owned before you got the pup? Wouldn't it make more sense to adopt the pup out to your friend and not the adult dog who is more familiar with your home? So, you're going to rehome Sugar, who has been in countless homes already instead of rehoming the younger dog that hasn't been in countless homes?

I disagree with this move.

Judy in Waco · 06-25-2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DesertChildAZ

Maybe I'm misreading this, but isn't Sugar your original dog that you owned before you got the pup? Wouldn't it make more sense to adopt the pup out to your friend and not the adult dog who is more familiar with your home? So, you're going to rehome Sugar, who has been in countless homes already instead of rehoming the younger dog that hasn't been in countless homes?

I disagree with this move.

Thank you for your honesty, I respect that. Yes, that was part of the discussion. It was a tough decision all the way around.

Judy in Waco · 06-25-2007, 08:30 AM

I thought I put this in the earlier post, but somehow I left it out. One other important piece of information here is that our friend wanted to adopt Sugar and not the puppy. We also didn't ask her. We hadn't even considered it. We knew that Sugar adored her and that we would be available to help if needed. We also consulted with the rescue group where we found Sugar before making any decisions.

We are in the process of signing up for obedience training classes to learn how to be better dog owners. We believe the puppy will learn along with us, but that Sugar needs someone with more knowledge and experience than we have and she needs it now...before it's too late to help her.

I completely understand your position though and respect it. You obviously care about animals very much and are much more knowlegeable than we are. Thank you for the information you gave us.

Donna Jean · 06-25-2007, 09:16 AM

I would not take any chance's their is a major weight issue, and your puppy could be killed and not so lucky the next time. When you are not supervising both of them I would keep the puppy in an exercise pen, with his food and water potty papers, and a little crate he can get inside if he feels threatened by your other dog. Let them get aquainted through the saftey of the exercise pen. Whenever you leave or can not supervise them, the puppy goes in the pen. That was very aggressive behaveior and very scary for the puppy i am sure.

I raise yorkshire terriers, and I always let the puppies get to know the adults through the protection of the exercise pen. Their are a few adults that i trust them with and I put them in with the puppies along with their mothers and they learn how to be around adults that are not their mom, who they know will not hurt them.

Get the book Cesar's Way by Cesar Millon, it is a great book and has insight on these situations, and comes in handy when you need some good advise.

I hope it all works out. Be sure to always protect your puppy, he can not hold his own against his house mate!

Judy in Waco · 06-25-2007, 09:22 AM

We were doing that...puppy has a playpen and we only let them be together for short, supervised periods of time. Sugar's behavior really seemed to come out of the blue.

If you read the rest of the thread you will see that the situation has been resolved, but I appreciate your input.

I also posted a pic of Sugar and an update in the nonyorkie brothers and sisters section. She is doing very well in her new home and we are very glad about that.

ImCKN · 06-25-2007, 06:53 PM

We are glad everything worked out!!

Donna Jean · 06-26-2007, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judy in Waco

We were doing that...puppy has a playpen and we only let them be together for short, supervised periods of time. Sugar's behavior really seemed to come out of the blue.

If you read the rest of the thread you will see that the situation has been resolved, but I appreciate your input.

I also posted a pic of Sugar and an update in the nonyorkie brothers and sisters section. She is doing very well in her new home and we are very glad about that.

I am so happy that everything is working out o.k. and your problems have been resolved.

06-22-2007, 09:25 AM	#16
DesertChildAZ YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 349	By the way, I'm told Cash will be 5 pounds fully grown (he's currently about 3.75 pounds) and Tahoe is 10 pounds. So, Cash is just a bit more than 1/3 Tahoe's size. I had the same concerns when I first got Cash as you do. Like I said, give it some time...the behaviorist should be able to help. Don't let it stress you out too much. Remember, these little guys can detect our every emotion. __________________ Don't feed your yorkies "Greenies". Their lives depend on it.

06-22-2007, 09:52 AM	#17
vainchick5 YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,588	I think everyone has given you great advice here but just to add. I would most definitely watch them play for 15 minutes at a time and if sugar gets aggressive you need to show her who the pack leader is, YOU! If she gets aggressive you immediately place her (without hurting her) on her back and give her a firm NO. This will teach her that YOU are the pack leader and she is not to reprimand or become aggressive as it is not her place in the pack. There's no magic formula or wand to wave around, so this takes time and it may not work for the first few times but eventually there will be an understanding. __________________ Mommy to Coco and Rocco

06-22-2007, 04:38 PM	#19
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	Miracles are amazing! Isn't it amazing how miracles work? While we were working on finding a behaviorist/trainer for this situation, we were contacted by a friend who had heard about our struggle with Sugar and Gizmo. She really likes Sugar and asked if she could take her. We were shocked at first. We hadn't even considered rehoming her, but we thought about it a lot. She has a great rapport with Sugar, wants an inside dog and isn't interested in getting any others, she grew up with dogs and has a lot of experience with them. She is well aware of the situation. Sugar needs that. She was fine with us until we brought Gizmo into the equation, now Sugar's miserable. After consulting once again with Sugar's rescue foster mom, we have rehomed her. I am sad, but I feel a sense of peace about the whole thing. I have always believed in a higher power..a kind and loving God, and this has just reaffirmed that faith. We will keep in close contact with Sugar's new mommy, and we truly believe this is the best situation for Sugar and our yorkie puppy Gizmo. Now Gizmo is much safer and more secure with us, and Sugar is in a much less stressful situation. Miracles are amazing! Thank you all for your support during this difficult time. __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

06-22-2007, 05:56 PM	#22
Ozzie'sperson Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Metro St. Louis Posts: 2,809 Blog Entries: 1	Glad it worked out! We had to slowly introduce a stray kitten we took in last year to Ozzie. Wasn't so concerned about Oz, as we were about the kitten, Toby, attacking HIM. The cat likes to push him around and, for the most part, Ozzie tolerates it. He's a good sport and pretty good-natured guy. For the most part, they get along. I know Ozzie likes so sniff him incessantly which makes the cat crazy, and he will occasionally bat at him. We try to keep after Oz so he doesn't pester him asmuch but I guess Toby found his own way to handle it. Last night, Ozzie was laying on the floor by me and Toby politely came up, sniffed oz and then BIT HIM IN THE FACE. I had to hit him to make him let go! Sometimes it's just like human siblings ... __________________ Nicole RIP my sweet boy, Ozzie 1997-2011 http://thisdmnhouse.blogspot.com/

06-23-2007, 07:32 PM	#23
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	Oh wow! I am trying very hard NOT to laugh, but how can you not laugh? I hope Ozzie wasn't hurt too badly! Thanks again for everyone's support! __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

06-22-2007, 01:00 PM	#18
lcbear Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Georgetown, CA Posts: 54	I was wondering if it was just rough play also. I have a 3 yr 14 lb yorkie female, a 9 month 7 lb boy and a 4 month 4 lb female. When the two older ones (the 14 lb and 7lb) first started playing with the little one, my hubby and I were very afraid the little one would be hurt. There was a lot of growling but never any aggression. They play extremely hard, in fact we separate the baby but most of the time she starts the playing and ends the playing. It is funny to see the little one "take on" the other two and "win". She takes their toys and they don't seem to mind. Every once in a while the oldest will put the two pups in line but she never hurts them. I guess we are lucky that so far everyone gets along great. If one is out of the crate, that one will bug us to let the other two out. It is great to see the three play. But like I said, they sometimes play very rough and hard and noisy but that is just they way they play. I know this is not much help but maybe it is just the older one putting the younger one in check. I would monitor them at all times though just to be sure. I still do watch them at all times.

06-25-2007, 07:33 AM	#24
DesertChildAZ YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 349	Maybe I'm misreading this, but isn't Sugar your original dog that you owned before you got the pup? Wouldn't it make more sense to adopt the pup out to your friend and not the adult dog who is more familiar with your home? So, you're going to rehome Sugar, who has been in countless homes already instead of rehoming the younger dog that hasn't been in countless homes? I disagree with this move. __________________ Don't feed your yorkies "Greenies". Their lives depend on it. Last edited by DesertChildAZ; 06-25-2007 at 07:35 AM.

06-25-2007, 08:30 AM	#26
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	I thought I put this in the earlier post, but somehow I left it out. One other important piece of information here is that our friend wanted to adopt Sugar and not the puppy. We also didn't ask her. We hadn't even considered it. We knew that Sugar adored her and that we would be available to help if needed. We also consulted with the rescue group where we found Sugar before making any decisions. We are in the process of signing up for obedience training classes to learn how to be better dog owners. We believe the puppy will learn along with us, but that Sugar needs someone with more knowledge and experience than we have and she needs it now...before it's too late to help her. I completely understand your position though and respect it. You obviously care about animals very much and are much more knowlegeable than we are. Thank you for the information you gave us. __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

06-25-2007, 09:16 AM	#27
Donna Jean YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 616	I would not take any chance's their is a major weight issue, and your puppy could be killed and not so lucky the next time. When you are not supervising both of them I would keep the puppy in an exercise pen, with his food and water potty papers, and a little crate he can get inside if he feels threatened by your other dog. Let them get aquainted through the saftey of the exercise pen. Whenever you leave or can not supervise them, the puppy goes in the pen. That was very aggressive behaveior and very scary for the puppy i am sure. I raise yorkshire terriers, and I always let the puppies get to know the adults through the protection of the exercise pen. Their are a few adults that i trust them with and I put them in with the puppies along with their mothers and they learn how to be around adults that are not their mom, who they know will not hurt them. Get the book Cesar's Way by Cesar Millon, it is a great book and has insight on these situations, and comes in handy when you need some good advise. I hope it all works out. Be sure to always protect your puppy, he can not hold his own against his house mate!

06-25-2007, 09:22 AM	#28
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	We were doing that...puppy has a playpen and we only let them be together for short, supervised periods of time. Sugar's behavior really seemed to come out of the blue. If you read the rest of the thread you will see that the situation has been resolved, but I appreciate your input. I also posted a pic of Sugar and an update in the nonyorkie brothers and sisters section. She is doing very well in her new home and we are very glad about that. __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

06-25-2007, 06:53 PM	#29
ImCKN Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 825	We are glad everything worked out!! __________________ Charlene (Harley, Davie, Sonny, and Lexie's Mom) PLUS 8 beautiful puppies December 15, 2010 :