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Old 06-02-2007, 06:25 PM   #31
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I heard the leash thing is a good idea too! I think it does help to train both owner and dog.. I know sometimes when GiGi has accidents it is because i am so lax with her. My husky goes out three times a day... And she needs to go out more. She is crate trained but it is so hard to put her in there but that is what she needs every once in awhile to really enforce that she has to go outside. When she starts to get lazy and doesnt go on peepad. I will keep her crated for a few days(not the whole few days!!) just while I am away and that has worked wonders for her.
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I thought my little Conner would never be potty trained. We would let him out of his crate to spend time with us at night, and as soon as we turned our backs on him, he would go into another room to pee. My husband certainly thought he would never be potty trained. He never went in his crate, but he would have his favorite spots on the hardwood floors. I would put a belly band on him when he went on the floor. I would keep it on him until the next time I took him outside to go potty. He did not like the belly band. When I put it on him, he would go to his bed, and stay there for a while. Finally, he got the idea that he did not get the belly band on when he did his business outside (we also have a code word to tell him to go - we tell him to "get busy").

Maybe you could get some panties for your baby and keep them on her until it is time to go potty.
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I can spot a few things going wrong just from your post alone...

First, If your house is "smelling like s**t" that is a big problem right there. You need to erase the poop and pee when it happens, or it is a marker telling your dog that that is the place to potty. Get yourself some neutralizer. Petsmart sells one called "Nature's miracle". Follow the directions and immediately clean up the mistake.

Second, if you take her outside, are you standing with her and watching to see if she goes? If no, put her on a leash. STand out there and say "go pee pee" and you wait until it happens. If yes, then make her do it a second time.

Third, you say she comes right in and pees right in front of you. If the second thing I pointed out doesn't take care of it. You startle her while she's peeing. Your purpose is NOT--I repeat--NOT to stop that instance of peeing from hitting your floor (too late for that at that moment) but it is to tell her that what she is doing right there is WRONG. So clap at her or rattle a can or shout "NO!" when she pees right in front of you; IMMEDIATELY take her outside, put her on the grass (on the leash) and tell her go pee pee. Don't let her come back in until she does it. Then praise. At this point, if she pees outside, forget the bad that happened in the house. Praise praise praise that she peed outside--even if some pee happened in the house. And clean up and neutralize the pee that happened.

Fourth. Never let her be out of your sight. Put her in the crate when you can't be watching her--with CLEAN bedding all the time. Don't let her get comfortable if peeing in her crate is a problem. Keep it clean so she begins to prefer it clean. Dogs by nature do not like to sleep or eat where the potty.

Finally, start scheduling potty breaks. If every two hours isn't keeping potty off the floor, go every hour. It will get better eventually, but you have to be consistent, and you have to be on it.
These are all excellent suggestions. Be very consistent in using them for housebreaking. Yorkies are VERY difficult to housebreak and since she's only 6 months old, I think your expectations are a bit high at this point. Keep doing the above suggestions and be consistent with it and she'll catch on eventually. All yorkies are different and they can be housebroken at different times but the key is consistency.

I trained Max to go outside. He is 3 years old and he still has accidents in the house. I trained Abbie using pee pads first. She caught on really quickly. Then eventually she started going outside. She is completely housebroken but she wasn't consistent until she was about 9 months old (she's 2 years old right now.)
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I knew she was going to be hard to train, I'd heard that a zillion times. I just didn't expect her to be this hard I guess. I donno. I love her and am willing to wait it out and keep trying but I have way more patience than my fiance does. He said we'll have to get through the wedding at the end of the month and see how much money we have and see about putting her in a potty training class or something. I donno. I'm not ready to get rid of her yet, she makes me so happy other than this. She is the perfect dog other than housebreaking. I'm just so frustrated.
Hmmmm.... I'm married the 4th time and know a thing or two about relationships... and taking the risk of getting slammed... but maybe the problems between you and your fiance with your Yorkie now could show you how it's going to be when you have skin kids... Also, how about diapers? It would solve the problem of the smell and the stains....

BTW... Mitzi is 10 y.o. and NOT housebroken! We don't have a lot of "accidents" in the house b/c I am well trained and keep her on a strict schedule. I also developed a kind of "sixth sense"... Good luck and please don't blame yourself!
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I can spot a few things going wrong just from your post alone...

First, If your house is "smelling like s**t" that is a big problem right there. You need to erase the poop and pee when it happens, or it is a marker telling your dog that that is the place to potty. Get yourself some neutralizer. Petsmart sells one called "Nature's miracle". Follow the directions and immediately clean up the mistake.

Second, if you take her outside, are you standing with her and watching to see if she goes? If no, put her on a leash. STand out there and say "go pee pee" and you wait until it happens. If yes, then make her do it a second time.

Third, you say she comes right in and pees right in front of you. If the second thing I pointed out doesn't take care of it. You startle her while she's peeing. Your purpose is NOT--I repeat--NOT to stop that instance of peeing from hitting your floor (too late for that at that moment) but it is to tell her that what she is doing right there is WRONG. So clap at her or rattle a can or shout "NO!" when she pees right in front of you; IMMEDIATELY take her outside, put her on the grass (on the leash) and tell her go pee pee. Don't let her come back in until she does it. Then praise. At this point, if she pees outside, forget the bad that happened in the house. Praise praise praise that she peed outside--even if some pee happened in the house. And clean up and neutralize the pee that happened.

Fourth. Never let her be out of your sight. Put her in the crate when you can't be watching her--with CLEAN bedding all the time. Don't let her get comfortable if peeing in her crate is a problem. Keep it clean so she begins to prefer it clean. Dogs by nature do not like to sleep or eat where the potty.

Finally, start scheduling potty breaks. If every two hours isn't keeping potty off the floor, go every hour. It will get better eventually, but you have to be consistent, and you have to be on it.

Great advice. Ginger goes potty on command outside and it's a lifesaver.

As for keeping the crate clean, here's what we did.

Gather up all your old used towels (or buy cheap ones at dollar general), so that you have several (enough to change everytime she pees in the crate for a day) and use as bedding. They are absorbent, go into the wash and clean up nicely, etc.

Also, use a neutralizer to scrub out the crate each time, and I bleached my towels when I washed them to make sure the smell was gone.

Make certain her crate is the right size, enough room to sit up, turn around and lay down, and that's it...for potty training they need little crates.

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We have a skin baby! We're good parents. Skin babies to him I guess are different. To him it's his own flesh and blood, Sasha to him is an overly expensive dog that he doesn't have patience for.

I definitely think I'm going to be ordering some panties. Besides, they're cute. She'll probably hate them, just like she hates any other clothes or bows, but maybe that will help her learn better.
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Grayson is about 80% trained and almost a year old I get frustrated but we keep working.

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This is a little off topic but I was a little taken aback with the choice of words used in the original thread. I understand it was written with frustration but the point of the thread would have been just as clear without them.

Just my opinion.
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I agree, she is the wrong breed for you!!!! Most people love their yorkies so much they can handle a mistake, this breed is the most difficult to house train, and most people who own them, do not have a fit if the baby makes some mistakes, you need to be dogless!!!! You are too young to be comitted to the training it takes to get your yorkie to please you.
I feel so bad for your poor yorkie! She must be a nervous wrek, and doesn't know what to do to please you, you have not been consistant, try this, try that, i think you need to be trained on how to train your yorkie, than learn to train your dog! Better yet, please get a great home for her with calm older people who have the paitence to work with her. They can not hold their bladders till 6 mos. old, and they have to work at holding their bladders, you are expecting a lot from a tiny yorkie baby! You do not love her enough to teach her. She will be much better off with a more mature adult!
OK...this was totally out of line--and wrong too. They are not "the most difficult to housetrain." Neither is it true that they can't hold their bladders until 6 months. My Chloe has been housebroken since she was 5 months old (using the methods I described in my last post in this thread).

She is venting here and frustrated, that doesn't mean she's being bad to her dog. So lighten up!
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My dad told me when we 1st got Teddy 2.5 years ago that a dog will NOT pee where he/she sleeps...Well I thought yeah right dad U never had my dogs...YORKIES!!!!!!!! Well he is 100% RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!! LISTEN TO MY DAD!!!!!!! See they have to get older before they can learn to control their holding patterns!!! Really. Teddy, Tiffanie are 2.5 years old now and don't pees/poops in their crates ever!!!!! Sir. Galahad is 13 months old and he never pees/poops in his crate either....I suggest U crate her @ night (I do all 3 of mine, have since day 1) and crate her when U leave, sure she will yelp, cry, moan and go on, but she'll live. I don't mean put her in a dog carrier, I mean crate her. Dog carriers are VERY VERY Dangerous for YORKIES to be crated in!!!!!!! My Sisters Benji Yorkie, was in one while she ran to the store, got back and his nose was stuck in the metal door, it had swollen that fast, where he was fightin' it to get out. They had to cut the metal with plyers from his nose. My puppies (Tiffanie's 1st litter) learned to not to go potty in their crate, sure U'll get up or come home to messes but hey that's part of it, they will get the hang of it. And I have to say U must have patience with her...YELLING, SCREAMING, HOLLERING won't help it will only set her nerves on edge and she'll go more, FEAR isn't good for ANY dog to feel about their owner!!!!!!!!! Please understand it isn't her fault she's still learning and just a baby!!!!!! Guess what my Tiffanie now is 2.5 and she has accidents, she is carrying babies and I think they must lay on her bladder, then once she pees guess what again.....My 2 boys.... age 2.5 and 13 months (ALL 3 Potty Trained!!!!!!!!!) come right over top of her pee and do their MARKING!!!!!! Oh yeah so do I YELL @ her NO I just clean it up and tell them bad and take them out. Then old Lee here put them in diffrent rooms, put Tiffanie in the living room and Teddy, Sir. Galahd in the kitchen....GUESS WHAT!!!!!!!! NO peeing from ANY OF THEM...... Amazing what a little change can do. So now I take them out every 2 hours with Sir. Galahad. Take her out once an hour, sure it's hard but that's what we Yorkie lovers must do to help our babies learn, if she comes in and pees, crate her for a few minutes, now @ 13 months Sir. Galahad can hold his about 2 hours, I take the older ones out normally (When Tiffanie isn't with puppies) @ 8 am, (Sir. Galahd @ 10 am), all 3 @ noon, then all 3 @ 3 pm (They all nap uncrated from 1 to 3, and Sir. Galahad holds his then don't ask me why but he does) (Sir. Galahd 4:30 to 5 pm) All 3 @ 7 pm and then all 3 around 9 to 10 pm then it's night time around 11 pm and NONE of them pee or poop in their crates from 11 pm to 8 or even 9 am (If no one is up then they will wait until one of us are up then here they go whining to go out and yes I let them out before I get me even dressed). Well I wish U the best just take U're time and give her a chance...She'll grow into it and I will tell U that from experience with our last litter...BOYS are 100% easier to puppy pad train then GIRLS our girls went anywhere and everywhere, boys right on the pad!!!!!! Maybe it's just our girls but well see with this litter. And our puppies are started both puppy pad and outside trained before they leave our house, it's up to the new mommies and daddies to keep up the work!!!!!! That's sometimes the trouble not the puppy, the owners!!! Trust me, Look @ mine since Tiffanie is gonna have babies, our Yorkies always change!!!!!!!! Hugs, Lee
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I think what she needs is a strict schedule. I'm not really good at this potty training stuff. I was lucky enough to find a puppy that was already housebroken that's why I hesistate to get another one all the time because of potty training issues and 'rumors' about yorkies being difficult to train, etc. etc.
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aww sorry to read about your frustration..and everyone has been thru it...and whatever you decide to do i wish you the best of luck...

my rule when it comes to housebreaking is ...consistency...hope that helps!
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Sorry about my post earlier. I know you just want to vet. I was only giving my oppinion by saying that I would never say I want to get rid of my baby just b/c they are not potty trained. But if your b/f does not have the patience it takes to care for a yorkie that makes things a lot harder for you. I know you love your yorkie and it's completely ok to vent just like ''Doodlebug'' said in a previous post. I hope you will be able to potty train her soon, just so she doesn't create more problems between you and your b/f as that would make things worse. Wishing you the best of luck and may God give your partener the patience he needs.
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I think its a little frustating for EVERYONE when our dogs arent housebroken after working with them so hard and no one ENJOYS cleaning up accidents lol...I know there are times that I think all is well and I turn around to find an accident...luckily we have a carpet cleaner but still it is frustrating. Of course our love for our babies outweighs the frustration as does your love for Sasha Im sure...I know at one point or another I probably felt like I couldnt do it and should give up but now its just routine...my babies are 99.9% housebroken now...just wait it out it does get better!! Previous posters gave very valuable information though on methods that are really good...

I think posters have to remember to read the WHOLE thread before posting sometimes. I read many times "wait until your husband and you have skin kids" and I kept thinking..cant they read her signature or the fact that she posted that they DO have a skin kid lol...

Anyone who says they havent gotten frustrated before with housebreaking is a saint lol...and just because you are venting does not mean this is the wrong breed for you....thats your call...

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Mistyinca gave some GREAT advice - as have many others. So, I'm not going to add anything else. But I did want to say good luck, take some deep breaths, and have faith that she WILL get there.

My Wylie, god forbid, took almost TWO years to completely get it - and it was incredibly frustrating. I think his breeder left him in unclean conditions, so he learned very, very young that potty was okay everywhere, even laying in it. Marcel came from a superb breeder - and the difference in training has been night and day.

So, even though your baby may be more like Wylie - just know that she will eventually get it; but also try and make peace with the sucky fact that it is going to take a TON of work...but it's worth it, my friend!
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