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Old 04-11-2007, 10:49 AM   #16
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Don't be discouraged.
I work full time and also I work Saturday all day as well.
But I come home for lunch every day including Saturday to spend time with her.
If the weather is good, I take her out for a little walk during lunch time as well.
I don't crate her but she is confined in a small section of the room so she will be safe.
But I may lose my current full time job so my future is up in the air right now.
If I get a job where I can't come home for lunch, then I definitely take her to daycare for sure.
It isn't healthy for her to be alone too long and I won't do it.
People have different opinion but as long as you love your baby and then do what you think is the best for your baby.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:29 PM   #17
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This is why there is Yorkie rescue.
I agree very much with sunyluvsma This is why there is a yorkie rescue. I am a vlounteer and foster mom for a yorkie rescue and this is the main reason why yorkies are surrendered. They just don't get trained if you crate them for more than two hours and this a fact. Yes yorkies like cave/den like areas but they aren't confined to that area they like to be able to go in and out as they please. We have so many yorkies in rescue that are crated for 14 hours a day and we do not agree with that at all just imagine drinking a gallon of water and being told to hold for eight hours could you do it?
My suggestion to you is secure a small area for the puppy enough room to play, potty, and rest. The number one reason dogs are put in rescue is houstraining and hyper active dogs which can be a result of crate training.
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I have crate trained mine,for not just the reason of potty training, but also for the chewing. We just recently remodeled my bathroom and had them confined in the kitchen and bathroom area one day. I put newspaper down in a corner for them to potty on (they chew up pee pads). We came home and found pieces of wood everywhere. They chewed up my brand new molding on my shower. Then another day they chewed up my cord for my DSL.... without that cord I couldn't come online to YT.....
Anyways my point is, I think at first it is a little easier to crate train them. My husband and I both work 8-5. Either one of us do come home at lunch and let them out and then let them run around for an hour. Then they get put back in there til around 3:30 when my daughter gets home from school. Next year it will be an hour earlier.
I don't think,by me working, that I'm not a good momma to my babies. They get tons of lovins and play time when they are out of their crates.
Also for the last 3 weeks, we have let them stay in the kitchen during the day. Since they are older they doing alot better not chewing and peeing all over god's creation.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:39 PM   #19
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Why is a yorkie rescue needed? I have no intention of getting rid of my yorkie. I am trying to get opinions to find out what is best. You really think i should take him to the yourkie rescue b/c I crate him 8 hours 2-3 days a week? Once he is completely potty trained I don't think I will even need to crate him. I also worry that b/c he's a puppy if i leave him out he will get into things like power cords and hurt himself. He gets played with for two hours everyday before i got to work and then played with from 5-11 at night. We did come up with a solution He is NOT crated during the night, I come home 2-3 days a week during lunch, and we switched to a plastic crate which helps with smell. I think his life could be a lot worse.
I agree, Sweetie, just because you work full time isn't a reason to get rid of your pup. That's ridiculous. Finding a solution for the smell seems to be where you are now. Most of us have had to crate during the training period more than we've wanted. I've been lucky because since I've had Yorkies I've been primarily at home.

Good luck, you'll find you're solution; coming here for advice is the best idea!! Don't get discouraged.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:16 PM   #20
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No one is saying that since work full time that your give your yorkie away. What we trying to say is that if you keep your yorkie in a crate for 8 hours he/she will never become fully trained. Our only suggestion is to not keep your yorkie in crate for long periods of time they are to small and energetic to be confined in a crate for so many hours. We are suggesting that you block a small area in your home wear he/she can play and where you can put a potty pads and water and food with enough space. We are not saying that you are bad pet owner just that you should change your decision in keeping you puppy in crate for so many ours it will be better for your and the pup. You don't want your pup to hate being in the crate. And they will learn to dislike the crate if they are confide for so many hours in it. So just take this in there are better ways in training your pup and I promise it will be better for you and for your pup.
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:44 AM   #21
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I don't mean to sound rude, but those of you that are suggesting that the puppy would be better off in a rescue have mentioned "How would you like it if they locked you up after drinking a gallon of milk". I think that suggests that you are comparing the puppy to an adult human. Even if that were the case, we sleep for six hours, and I don't know about other people but I don't wake up to go to the restroom. I also don't let my 4 year old walk around at night when we are sleeping because he is full of energy so why would I let the puppy walk around at night. Most of the books that I've read suggest that crate training is essential for housebreaking. Holly is allowed to come out of her crate twice during the night to relieve herself plus she sleeps the whole time. She doesn't cry (never did in fact), she doesn't wiggle around in her crate, and as far as our baby camera shows, she only picks up her little head when one of us moves or gets up off the bed.

Zoe123, I think you are doing great. Let me ask you something? When the puppy sleeps with you at night, does she sleep the whole time? Or does she run around with a lot of energy?
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:30 AM   #22
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Most of us work a full time job...but doesn't mean we should give our furbabies away...that is ridiculous...and in my opinion crate training is best when it comes to housebreaking!
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Harvey Is 13 Months Old And Since He Was 8 Weeks Old He Has Slept In His Crate, In The Kitchen, Half Of The Crate Is His Comfy Bed And The Other Half Is A Wee Wee Pad Folded In Half. At First He Did Sometimes Use The Pad - But For About 6 Months He Has Not Used It At All. I Leave It In Just In Case He Needs To Use It.

He Goes To Bed At Around Midnight And I Get Up At 7.30 Am. He Is Taken Out Before And After Bed. He Goes Back In His Crate At 8.15 Until My Husband Gets Up From Working Nights Usually 10.30 Ish. Then He Plays And Sleeps All Day - We Dont Have Pads In House Any More, He Goes Outside, By Himself If Doors Are Opened In Nice Weather Or We Take Him Out Every 2-3 Hours In Colder Weather.

This Works Great For Us.
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:14 AM   #24
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To eliminate bad smells, just clean out the crate and floor with alcohol. I put alcohol in spray bottles and keep under all my sinks to clean sinks, counters an such with. Works to kill germs and bacteria, which cause bad smells.
I also wouldn't keep the puppy in a crate all day. That could lead to some serious kindey and bladder problems.
I would attach an expen to a wire crate, cover the crate with a blanket to make it den like, put a wee-wee pad at one end and attach a water bottle to the pen. Give a couple of chew toys too, and see if you can't find someone to come over to let the puppy outside at noon. Leaving a puppy in any pen for 8 and 9 hours a day without someone to look in on it every so often is so wrong.
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I don't mean to sound rude, but those of you that are suggesting that the puppy would be better off in a rescue have mentioned "How would you like it if they locked you up after drinking a gallon of milk". I think that suggests that you are comparing the puppy to an adult human. Even if that were the case, we sleep for six hours, and I don't know about other people but I don't wake up to go to the restroom. I also don't let my 4 year old walk around at night when we are sleeping because he is full of energy so why would I let the puppy walk around at night. Most of the books that I've read suggest that crate training is essential for housebreaking. Holly is allowed to come out of her crate twice during the night to relieve herself plus she sleeps the whole time. She doesn't cry (never did in fact), she doesn't wiggle around in her crate, and as far as our baby camera shows, she only picks up her little head when one of us moves or gets up off the bed.

Zoe123, I think you are doing great. Let me ask you something? When the puppy sleeps with you at night, does she sleep the whole time? Or does she run around with a lot of energy?
He's been sleeping through the whole night for awhlie now. It was only the first week that I had to get up at 2 am to let him out. He does not run around the bed with a lot of energy. He curls up and is out for the entire night until the alarm goes off.
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I agree very much with sunyluvsma This is why there is a yorkie rescue. I am a vlounteer and foster mom for a yorkie rescue and this is the main reason why yorkies are surrendered. They just don't get trained if you crate them for more than two hours and this a fact. Yes yorkies like cave/den like areas but they aren't confined to that area they like to be able to go in and out as they please. We have so many yorkies in rescue that are crated for 14 hours a day and we do not agree with that at all just imagine drinking a gallon of water and being told to hold for eight hours could you do it?
My suggestion to you is secure a small area for the puppy enough room to play, potty, and rest. The number one reason dogs are put in rescue is houstraining and hyper active dogs which can be a result of crate training.

I think your fact is just an opinion and not a fact. My yorkie is almost 100% potty trained(he's only 4.5 months). If he does have an accident it's by the door. I have also obienced trained him. Sit, Stay, come, down. IN my opinion most dogs are taken to the pount b/c the owner doesn't understand how much time and patience is needed in housebreaking a new pet. I know a lot of people who crate their dogs all day and they are all house broken. I never crated my doberman, but I received him already trained. When my yorkie is a little older I do not plan on crating him.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I am going to try expanding his area to my large walk in closest which also has large windows. I am a little worried he may decide to chew on the woodwork thought since he is young and teething.
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Hi! What about getting your puppy an Xpen and then putting the smaller crate *inside* the Xpen.. w/a really comfy blankey or bed that way he knows that the small crate is his sleep area and will learn to potty elsewhere. I really like the Nature's Miracles Puppy Pads.. they actually smell like grass to train the dog to eventually pee outside as well. They're super thick and absorbant and I haven't noticed them smelling. I'd just change it as soon as you get home.

I think I have a picture of my set up when I used my Xpen a lot. It doesn't show the entire pen, but I set the food/water up on one side.. a basket of toys on the other and a puppy bed. I didn't use the crate because Bentley was already crate trained, but I think for you putting it in would be a great idea!

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Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I am going to try expanding his area to my large walk in closest which also has large windows. I am a little worried he may decide to chew on the woodwork thought since he is young and teething.
Mine have chewed massively on woodwork, even when I'd turn my back for a second. They don't do it unless I have them confined to one room, so I'd be careful to try to put a barrier between the puppy and the woodwork. I speak from costly experience, lol. When I rented they tore up the baseboards in the kitchen and it cost a ton to replace them.
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