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isevilla · 10-27-2006, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

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I'm sure it most likely will, where are you going for your classe(s) if you don't mind me asking?

I was considering to take her to a petsmart that is nearby. I go there quite often and have talked to other dog owners and they have talked very highly about one particular trainer there.

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Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

"A lot of people in your situation would waste their money going to say PetSmart or PetCo and they're not in the business of dog training to work w/ difficult dogs or specific behavior issues of this calibre. It'd mostly be about avoidance if they even attempted to.

I'm available everyday, except Fridays and Sundays at the number provided. If I'm in a lesson at the time, I'll be sure to return your message! Just remind me you met me on YT!

I didnt think it could hurt to try as any help is better than none and there fee is pretty reasonable as well.

How much do you charge for your trainer and or phone consultations?

Is.

isevilla · 10-27-2006, 06:22 AM

Well now the situation has gotten a bit worse and I am really sad about what happened this time...

I went to the store last night and left sox (puppy) and my 1 1/2 yr old son with my husband. I came home to hear my husband say that I almost didnt have a puppy tonight. I was like what the heck happened now? He said that sox had been running around like a mad girl around the living room while lucas my baby was in the center sitting down. Sox came up to lucas and lunged at him and either scratched him or bit him and knocked him onto his back and then continued to run around the living room. When my husband asked lucas if he was ok lucas rolled over onto his side and his eye was bleeding like crazy. I asked my husband what did he do the dog and he said he just told her no and took her to her crate while he took care of lucas.

When i looked at lucas' eye it looks as if she grazed him with either her nails or teeth because it looks like a long scratch going across his eye lid where the fold is. He looks ok but now is afraid of the dog.

I am going to try to get the two the puppy and lucas together in a little while and make sure that lucas isnt afraid of her now since he stayed on his dad's lap the whole time I was gone and didnt want to be on the floor or walk around last night.

I honestly think that sox was just playing and just got to rough with lucas. Hopefully it doesnt happen again esp on my husbands watch or I will come home to not having a puppy again.

Is.

isevilla · 10-27-2006, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

Gotcha !!

When I read your post I felt the frustration and I think our dogs feel it too when we get that way - I just wanted to emphasise that you do have a young puppy - I remember mine at that age - the teeth HURT... but try to relax and enjoy her - they grow up fast.

the other thing people have said about the training is just use consistency - like if you feed her - put her right on her 'place' to go - you just have to keep doing the same things and praise them ALOT - they get it eventually...

IF you want to take something away from her and you think she'll bite - try to read the links I posted earlier - some of the same problems were talked about there -

one more thing - you aren't leaving her leash on while she's in the crate right ?? they can strangle on anything hanging or around their necks -

I have been quite frustrated with her as she does good for a few days then starts to act up but I have been trying to keep my composure as much as possible. I am working with her everyday and I also have a baby who is 1 1/2 yrs old and I am home all day with both. Then my older kids ages 7 and 12 come home late afternoon so its been rough on me but I am managing. Im trying really hard to keep working with her.

I feel that I am doing everything pretty consistantly and im confident that one day she will surprise me and it will all be worth all the trouble.

I will definately keep reading about training and try to keep positive as much as possible.

No I dont leave the leash on her at all when im not using it for walking her around in the house etc.

Is.

JeanieK · 10-27-2006, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by isevilla

Well now the situation has gotten a bit worse and I am really sad about what happened this time...

I went to the store last night and left sox (puppy) and my 1 1/2 yr old son with my husband. I came home to hear my husband say that I almost didnt have a puppy tonight. I was like what the heck happened now? He said that sox had been running around like a mad girl around the living room while lucas my baby was in the center sitting down. Sox came up to lucas and lunged at him and either scratched him or bit him and knocked him onto his back and then continued to run around the living room. When my husband asked lucas if he was ok lucas rolled over onto his side and his eye was bleeding like crazy. I asked my husband what did he do the dog and he said he just told her no and took her to her crate while he took care of lucas.

When i looked at lucas' eye it looks as if she grazed him with either her nails or teeth because it looks like a long scratch going across his eye lid where the fold is. He looks ok but now is afraid of the dog.

I am going to try to get the two the puppy and lucas together in a little while and make sure that lucas isnt afraid of her now since he stayed on his dad's lap the whole time I was gone and didnt want to be on the floor or walk around last night.

I honestly think that sox was just playing and just got to rough with lucas. Hopefully it doesnt happen again esp on my husbands watch or I will come home to not having a puppy again.

Is.

I'd say that was more than just rough play, when considering the previous incidents.

I think any obedience training is better than none at all. It seems like she needs to know who is in charge, and it isn't her.

Think of how a mother dog would handle the situation. Pinching her on the back of the neck was probably good if it was done instantly.

Time outs for biting are useless, by the time you get them to where you are putting them for time out, they will have forgotten what they did. The reaction has to be quick.

I believe I would actually snap at her like her mother would do.

Visit Cesar Milans website
http://www.dogchannel.com/experts/ce...aspx?WT.srch=1
JMO

Brookef18 · 10-27-2006, 05:50 PM

When chewy first came home, after dinner every night he would run around the living room like a WILD MAN! He would just go nuts running and we thought it was cute... then he started running and would run up nip and contune running!!!! It wasn't funny any more. I started putting the leash on him and making him sit with me and he calmed right down. It seemed like he couldn't calm himself down at night like that and when I made him sit with me that was the end of the CRAZY behavoir... (I would walk him before he got nuts to help hm calm down but it didn't seem to help!
Maybe your puppy was just on a running jag and too exited to calm hmself when he hurt the baby... Hope this helps!

yorkieK9trainer · 10-27-2006, 10:33 PM

"The PetSmart's where you live must really suck then. The trainer at the one near us is awesome. I've never been to her, but talk have talked with her several times. She's been training for a loooong time and has even taken some dogs to title in agility. A friend with a pretty aggressive Pit worked with her and had amazing results.
You must have had a bad experience there or something?"
No, I'm just a seasoned trainer and I know what the policies are for PetSmart's trainers and I know for a fact that while each have a different background before working for PetSmart they are limited to a large extent on just how much of their past is allowed to influence their practices while teaching at PetSmart. It's a corporate policy, not theirs. Now it is possible that the store manager of the PetSmart that you're talking about having good experience w/ this trainer at is just being lax, possible. But the general concensis is, and they should be honest and tell you this, is that they DO NOT have the experience to work w/ certain behavior disorders appropriately. A LOT of their techniques are about avoidance and never really teaching the dogs to stop the habit all together under any circumstance. But I'm glad you like this trainer! Many people who have come to me AFTER going to PetSmart or PetCo for their training liked their trainer as an individual and as a trainer too, just not for the results they were looking for.

I think it's great that PetSmart exists w/ the training program they have. Their prices are reasonable and like I said, not everyone wants to use just a leash and collar nowadays to train their dogs. It's GREAT to have diversity.

As far as what "I" charge for a phone consultation? NOTHING! Call me ANYTIME!!! Here's the number again: 847-223-2822, Oh, and Evaluations are free too (where you actually bring the dog in and meet me and I show you a couple of things and we discuss what options are probably best for your situation)
Private lessons (1 hour) are $50 and classes are $150 for an 8 week course and there's boarding and training as well, but that depends on the size of the dog in order to determine the boarding rate.

Monday · 10-27-2006, 11:00 PM

This is just a suggestion, but it worked for me ... whenever Monday barked (usually when people were coming in or were leaving) ... I put about 5-10 pennies in an empty soda can (sealed the top with tape) and shook it ONCE (downward movement) -- the noise got her attention -- and then I'd say NO BARKING! and then go "shhhh shhh ... now all I have to do is say "Shhh Shhh" and the barking stops ...

try that .... hope it helps ...

about the nipping, I have no experience with that, but I sure wouldn't leave the baby on the floor with Sox running about! (Maybe the "penny shake" would help with that as well????) It does kinda stop them in their tracks.
Good Luck...
Debbie

dcelmo · 10-28-2006, 06:03 AM

My yorkie is a year old and is very sweet most of the time. He will all of a sudden become agressive if he thinks someone is getting food and he is not. Even the smell of me cooking will start him on his agression. He has attacked my new Cockapoo on several occasions and usually for no reason. I have had him since he was 8 weeks old and he has never been agressive with people just other dogs. And not all the time. I would like to know what triggers him, so I could be alert to those things? Sometimes it can be over a toy, but most of the time it is a chewie of some kind. I have thrown them all away and don't give them to either dog.
I sympathize with you, I know how frustrating it can be. Don't leave your baby and dog unattended ever. I don't leave my dogs together without supervision. Good luck, I will watch for updates.

10-27-2006, 06:22 AM	#17
isevilla Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 52	puppy bit or scratch my baby and made him bleed Well now the situation has gotten a bit worse and I am really sad about what happened this time... I went to the store last night and left sox (puppy) and my 1 1/2 yr old son with my husband. I came home to hear my husband say that I almost didnt have a puppy tonight. I was like what the heck happened now? He said that sox had been running around like a mad girl around the living room while lucas my baby was in the center sitting down. Sox came up to lucas and lunged at him and either scratched him or bit him and knocked him onto his back and then continued to run around the living room. When my husband asked lucas if he was ok lucas rolled over onto his side and his eye was bleeding like crazy. I asked my husband what did he do the dog and he said he just told her no and took her to her crate while he took care of lucas. When i looked at lucas' eye it looks as if she grazed him with either her nails or teeth because it looks like a long scratch going across his eye lid where the fold is. He looks ok but now is afraid of the dog. I am going to try to get the two the puppy and lucas together in a little while and make sure that lucas isnt afraid of her now since he stayed on his dad's lap the whole time I was gone and didnt want to be on the floor or walk around last night. I honestly think that sox was just playing and just got to rough with lucas. Hopefully it doesnt happen again esp on my husbands watch or I will come home to not having a puppy again. Is.

10-27-2006, 05:50 PM	#20
Brookef18 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cape Cod Ma Posts: 1,855	When chewy first came home, after dinner every night he would run around the living room like a WILD MAN! He would just go nuts running and we thought it was cute... then he started running and would run up nip and contune running!!!! It wasn't funny any more. I started putting the leash on him and making him sit with me and he calmed right down. It seemed like he couldn't calm himself down at night like that and when I made him sit with me that was the end of the CRAZY behavoir... (I would walk him before he got nuts to help hm calm down but it didn't seem to help! Maybe your puppy was just on a running jag and too exited to calm hmself when he hurt the baby... Hope this helps! __________________ Brooke (Chewy's and Sadie's Mom) visit us on dogster dogster.com/dogs/700047

10-27-2006, 10:33 PM	#21
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	"The PetSmart's where you live must really suck then. The trainer at the one near us is awesome. I've never been to her, but talk have talked with her several times. She's been training for a loooong time and has even taken some dogs to title in agility. A friend with a pretty aggressive Pit worked with her and had amazing results. You must have had a bad experience there or something?" No, I'm just a seasoned trainer and I know what the policies are for PetSmart's trainers and I know for a fact that while each have a different background before working for PetSmart they are limited to a large extent on just how much of their past is allowed to influence their practices while teaching at PetSmart. It's a corporate policy, not theirs. Now it is possible that the store manager of the PetSmart that you're talking about having good experience w/ this trainer at is just being lax, possible. But the general concensis is, and they should be honest and tell you this, is that they DO NOT have the experience to work w/ certain behavior disorders appropriately. A LOT of their techniques are about avoidance and never really teaching the dogs to stop the habit all together under any circumstance. But I'm glad you like this trainer! Many people who have come to me AFTER going to PetSmart or PetCo for their training liked their trainer as an individual and as a trainer too, just not for the results they were looking for. I think it's great that PetSmart exists w/ the training program they have. Their prices are reasonable and like I said, not everyone wants to use just a leash and collar nowadays to train their dogs. It's GREAT to have diversity. As far as what "I" charge for a phone consultation? NOTHING! Call me ANYTIME!!! Here's the number again: 847-223-2822, Oh, and Evaluations are free too (where you actually bring the dog in and meet me and I show you a couple of things and we discuss what options are probably best for your situation) Private lessons (1 hour) are $50 and classes are $150 for an 8 week course and there's boarding and training as well, but that depends on the size of the dog in order to determine the boarding rate. __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

10-27-2006, 11:00 PM	#22
Monday AND Friday also! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,371	PENNY Shake! This is just a suggestion, but it worked for me ... whenever Monday barked (usually when people were coming in or were leaving) ... I put about 5-10 pennies in an empty soda can (sealed the top with tape) and shook it ONCE (downward movement) -- the noise got her attention -- and then I'd say NO BARKING! and then go "shhhh shhh ... now all I have to do is say "Shhh Shhh" and the barking stops ... try that .... hope it helps ... about the nipping, I have no experience with that, but I sure wouldn't leave the baby on the floor with Sox running about! (Maybe the "penny shake" would help with that as well????) It does kinda stop them in their tracks. Good Luck... Debbie __________________ Like dogs, we should sniff butts, not kiss them. Dogs have more friends because they wag their tails, not their tongues. http://music.clevver.com/video/25815...ersion-300.php

10-28-2006, 06:03 AM	#23
dcelmo Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Victorville, CA Posts: 181	My yorkie is a year old and is very sweet most of the time. He will all of a sudden become agressive if he thinks someone is getting food and he is not. Even the smell of me cooking will start him on his agression. He has attacked my new Cockapoo on several occasions and usually for no reason. I have had him since he was 8 weeks old and he has never been agressive with people just other dogs. And not all the time. I would like to know what triggers him, so I could be alert to those things? Sometimes it can be over a toy, but most of the time it is a chewie of some kind. I have thrown them all away and don't give them to either dog. I sympathize with you, I know how frustrating it can be. Don't leave your baby and dog unattended ever. I don't leave my dogs together without supervision. Good luck, I will watch for updates.