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I agree, bitches who produce pups with demodex should be spayed...I thought I thinking was too harsh to post that..but have read a bit today. Demodex is quite different then the average bout of worms or a run of coccidia in a kennel...bitches are constantly under the stress of breeding and nursing...thus making demodex an ongoing problem for many breeders.

Do you know a puppy with demodex should not receive any vaccinations until the problem is well under control?....they do not need the additional viral components circulating in the system...you are trying to "reinstate" the immnue system function, not add to the collective damage.
It takes about 2 full years for the immune system to mature in a toy dog, add poor conditions to the pot and you have compromised dogs for a long time..so the demodex can reoccur..

Also no heartworm meds and flea meds...also fleas shampoos...not all pups will have liver problems from dips, but many Yorkies have dicey livers to start with..you do not want to overload the liver with unnecessary toxins...that is why I do not rountinely worm my pups..a stool check is done first.

Yea, I posted in a public forum for opinions on what to do, not to be criticized on a decision I made. I brought again from the breeder because I was pleased with my first pup (she did not show any signs of demodex until two days before Chewy arrived)

With the breeder not responding to any of my emails or phone calls how was I going to get a refund from her? Obviously she is not a trust worthy person & is only into breeding for the $$$ not the well being of the breed The pup is here there's nothing that can be done about that (I would never give him away ).

I don't see how I was wrong by buying from the same breeder if I was pleased with my first pup (why go somewhere else if your happy)

feminvstr
I don't like how you came in this post with your sarcastic comments when all I wanted was advice (whether you were doing it intentionally or not I took it that way)

Chewy was abused anybody who neglects their dogs the way this one has been neglected is abuse. When I was told he had a skin infection, i asked if it was demodex the response was "No" it's just a minor skin infection he's on meds & it will clear up i a few days. (he wasn't even on the right medicine) Why would I have her send him if I knew it was demodex ??? What sense does that make? Yes I knew about a skin infection but I was lead to believe it was minor & not serious at all

The vet even said this pup was abused & you can tell from him actions (he wasn't loved or taken care of at all). I have two other dog (1 from the same breeder and a Maltese from another breeder) when my dogs came of course they were very reserved & stood off but not like this dog. He was near death (his stole sample had so many parasites in it the vet said he'll probably drop a pound by the time he's cleaned out). With 5 days on meds (the right meds) he's cheered up & is coming around (the vet said he looked so much better than Saturday when I first took him)

Like I said before I came here for advice not to be criticized on about my actions & what I thought I did right. For you to constantly go back & forth assuming you knew things about the situation, it really made me angry (here I am going through all of this with my pup & i came here for advice & to vent only to be judged on what I should or could have done differently (I'm not trying to hear that right now) In no way would have I brought again from this breeder if Gia had shown signs of demodex earlier, but it's done & over with. i would never send Chewy back to that place because obviously he wasn't taken care of at all

Karma, I made NO assumptions, I read all you have posted, no sarcasm intended..your inconsistancies are apparent....

Your bought Gia and you were thrilled with the breeder
Glowing letter to the breeder posted on her website
You had Gia for months before you discovered the demodex
You bought Chewy knowing he had skin problems and was being treated
You were warned by your vet not to have him shipped
His flight was delayed 4.5 hours spending almost 10 hours in a crate
Two days after he arrives he is jumping, playing and wants your attention.

None of the above supports the title of your thread! While I am sorry you have these minor health issues theyre all treatable, none are life threatening.

I sincerely hope you and your pups life a long happy life.

Karmaistrue, I think you need to take a deep breath. You asked for advice and Feminvstr gave it to you. I don't see anything sarcastic or "smart a**" as you put it about the advice she gave you. Feminvstr is a knowledgeable person. Listen and you will learn. Breathe.

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Now ladies, let's play nice. :D :D

But all joking aside, no one was being sarcastic, rude or attacking you. Take it easy.

I don't think that anyone made any sarcastic comments to you - just pointed out the facts and gave their honest opinions. You came here for advice, several people gave you very good advice, but when they did, you got very pissy. So did you really want advice, or just sympathy??? If you just wanted sympathy, that's fine, but don't say you were looking for advice if you're going to attack every piece of advice you're given.

That said, I'm sorry that you're having to go through this. I hope that both your pups have a speedy and painless recovery! I'm glad they're in a good home now.

On a side note.. I just had to chuckle at all the :thumbup:'s that started on page 4 of this thread. LOL

When your going through something. You don't want to hear what you should have or could have done differently.

And if you do look back at your posts from page one you were not being friendly with your posts & their are other members who pointed it out besides myself


Yes, I knew Chewy had a skin infection but I was told it was not bad at all, but for him to get here & have so many other issues was not expected at all. Chewy was filthy when he got here (not dirty..... filthy) he smelled so bad on the way home I had to pull over because I had to vomit (I'm 7.5 months pregnant & never had a day of morning sickness). He had black things stuck to his skin (I'm not sure what they were ). I was not expecting him to get here looking like he just finished being bathed but you could see just by looking at him this pup was not cared for at all. The vet advised me to wait to get Chewy but the pup was paid for & ready to ship by the time I did talk to the breeder & when she assured me that he was skin was okay (minus the skin infection) & he didn't have demodex I decided to get him (when we spoke I had no reason not to trust her yet ).

All together i paid 1248.00 for Chewy (Chewy's cost 950 shipping 178 and the breeders fee of 120 for the crate, health certificate & gas)

Yes his aliments can be treated with meds but I'm going to end up spending more than what I paid for him.


I came here for advice on what to do to try to get Chewy to open up & not be so frighten of me.

I didn't want anyone sympathy just advice on what i should do to try to get him to open up & trust me.

Yet other issues where pointed out .....I should not have gotten two dogs from the same breeder ect. ect . ect

I've been reading back over your posts and let me first say how sorry I am you are going through this with your furbabies. But I feel I need to add to what I've quoted you on saying above. In the dictionary, advice is defined as: "Opinion about what could or should be done about a situation or problem; counsel." (compliments of dictionary.com) So by saying you didn't want to hear what you "should have or could have" done, were you not really wanting advice? Peoples opinion's vary, some feel more strongly than others on their advice in certain situations. My opinion is I don't feel anyone was out of line, just giving "their" advice (what could or should be done) based on what you were asking. Take what was replied and either use it or ignore it. We are all VERY passionate about the yorkie breed and sometimes, people may come across more intense than others...try not to take it as a personal attack:)

Best of luck to you and your furbabies!

I got this personal message from LC598

Hi ya!!

I've been reading the thread you started about your pup Chewy (cute name, mine looks like Chewbacca) and I'm so sorry you're going through all of this. I haven't posted on your thread. I think some people are being rather judgmental and they shouldn't be at a time like this.

Sorry I can't advise or help with your current situation regarding the skin problems I may be able to help a little with the trust problems.

I adopted a very shy abandoned Yorkie. The best thing we found was time and patience. Calm voices and treats. If Chewy doesn't come to you immediately don't get frustrated or show you are upset, your stress can be passed on to him. Positive reinforcement is the best solution. When he comes to you praise him like hell. Hopefully this helps.

If you ever need a friendly chat, I'll be here for you. I believe you when you say you trusted the breeder.

I hope I've helped a little. Feel free to post this on the thread if you wish.

Take care and give you little pups a big cuddle from me and I hope they are both better real soon.

Lubna

I wanted to see it other people had ever dealt with or known someone who had a pup that was abused.

The other factors of why I brought a dog from the same breeder had nothing to do with what I was asking when I knew he had a skin infection.

I felt that I was attacked for my actions of buying from the same breeder knowing that this pup had an infection.

I just wanted advice on what to do to get Chewy to open up to. His health issues had nothing to do with what I originally posted (I just put the whole story together so people would be able to understand why he was acting do frightened of me) People may mean well, but there is also a way you say things to people & certain members who posted comments where not so friendly & warm (in my opinion & obviously in some other members opinions too)

But Magnolia thanks for the good luck, positive reinforcement seems to be the key & hopefully he will come around more as time passes.

What do you all say that we end this thread here?

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