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Old 06-13-2006, 06:00 PM   #1
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I got my baby Mia on Saturday, and I am having problems. She is about 9-10 weeks old. First of all she does not let me out of her sight. When she is upstairs, if I go downstairs, she starts barking at the top of her lungs right in front of the staircase because she doesn't know how to go down the stairs yet (its very cute actually). If she is on my bed, and I go into the bathroom, she starts barking and crying again because she can't jump down yet even though our bed is pretty close to the ground. She can see me (as I take my lenses off in the bathroom) from the bed, and she stops barking when I come sit on the bed. So its not like she needs to go potty or something When we put her in the crate at night, she doesn't stop barking and we don't have the luxury to let her bark because of our neighbors. After I spent two nights sleeping on the bathroom floor (because we wanted to keep her in the crate at night, and we did not want our neighbor at our door, so we put her crate in the bathroom and I did not feel right leaving her alone), I let her sleep on the bed last night. When she slept at the foot of my bed, she didn't even wake up for her once-every-three-hour potty session. She actually slept 8 hours straight!
She is such a meanie. I just can't stand it when she barks and cries because (1) she is a cute little baby, (2) I really can't stand the noise after 5 mins. Just when I think she has stopped, she starts again and it drives me insane. Plus the neighbor issue, as mentioned above.
While I can spend all my time with her for now, that won't be the case for the next 15+ years (may God let her live that long). I want her to be able to stay in her crate, all by herself, for at least 30 mins. I am considering booking a hotel room for a couple of days in order to let her bark her lungs out to train her, but is that the way to go?
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Old 06-13-2006, 06:38 PM   #2
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It might be something that they grow out of. When we first got my dog he would cry nonstop when he was in the crate. I remember one time we went somewhere and had him in the crate. It was summertime so the windows were open. When we got back my neighbor said the whole time alls he did was bark, and jokingly yelled at us to close the windows or take him with next time. He's fine now, he stopped doing it pretty quick.

Do you come to her attention as soon as she starts barking? If she knows that you will come then she's going to keep doing it. ALso, maybe when you have to leave her side give her a toy or a bone to chew on, something to take her mind off of it.
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I am in the same boat as you! My pup is 14 weeks and is so incredibly dependant it makes me nervous. I go back to work next week and I wonder how he's going to handle that! Luckily I can get him to sleep in his crate through the night. We sit on the couch for an hour before bedtime every night and have quiet time with the tv on a very low volume. I take his toys away 30 mins before bedtime and he usually passes out and I carry him into his crate repeating "It's bedtime for the baby." I've read that consistency is key. Also, try not to come running when she barks (I know it's very tough with neighbors). Did you ask her breeder what kind of nightly routine they had? I just kinda kept following the breeder's sleep schedule for him. Good luck!
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maybe try taking her for a nice long walk before you have to crate her. Maybe she will be worn out and just sleep while you are gone.
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I think a little romp outside would work. Also that is a yorkie personality. They want to be with their person 24/7. Bella is 1 yr old and completely house trained. I used a baby playpen when she was little and I was busy. And sometime they just like to cry.
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Some pups are just very verbal. My Coco did the same exact thing for like a month or two, then slowly stopped as she grew up. But I never really encouraged it either. I would just ignore it, but it was mostly at night that I ignored her crying. I gave her loads of attention during the day so she wasn't really crying that much then, but at night the crating was driving me bonkers. But she eventually got the picture. She just wants to be with you, she's not trying to annoy you. She wants to be where you are and I really wouldn't recommend leaving her by herself at the top of the stairs because she could fall.
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I think a little romp outside would work. Also that is a yorkie personality. They want to be with their person 24/7. Bella is 1 yr old and completely house trained. I used a baby playpen when she was little and I was busy. And sometime they just like to cry.
Good point. My babies always want to be with me (and that feeling is very mutual lol)
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Old 06-15-2006, 03:20 PM   #8
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Hi LolaBella,
You are really not having problems. Let me explain. Your pup has only been with you for one week. This is all new to her. She had to leave the comfort of her mommy and littermates and go into this strange new world. She will adapt. Right now, she needs to be with you, that is just what a puppy needs. She needs direction from you. You are her pack leader. The first few months are always the hardest, but before you know it you will forgot how it was (lack of sleep, up for potty runs 3 times a night, etc etc.) The more consistent you are and the earlier you get her used to whatever your schedule is, the sooner she'll adapt. It is so worth the work. My AprilLove recently turned 5 months old, and she was exactly the way you are describing now. I could not go into another room without her whining, and she LOVED to whine..the screcching kind. I solved the nighttime crate thing by putting her on the bed with me in her crate and she did great with the housebreaking. When I first put her in the crate, to get used to it during the day, she got so mad she grabbed the metal bars with her little teeth and she would yell so loud, that she lifted her whole body to a horizontal position off the ground! (Wish I had pics) I left the crate open wherever we were during the day, (playtime etc) and let her go into by herself when she wanted to nap, (with door open) sometimes a yummy treat would be in there to entice her. Defintely don't go pick her up everytime she whines, if you do you will teach her that that is acceptable behavior (rewarded by being picked up) Anyway, now at 5 months AprilLove has turned into a true little pal. She trusts me. She's comfortable with me and seems to have confidence that I will always come back, after being gone a while. (Which I always do) She doesn't even whine anymore when I leave her gated in the kitchen when I go off to work. She is like "oh, your leaving, I see you later. But when I am home, she is attached at the hip. Always where I am. I love it!
Sorry for the novel. But please have patience and you'll see that it gets better and more wonderful by the day. JMHO

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Hi LolaBella,
You are really not having problems. Let me explain. Your pup has only been with you for one week. This is all new to her. She had to leave the comfort of her mommy and littermates and go into this strange new world. She will adapt. Right now, she needs to be with you, that is just what a puppy needs. She needs direction from you. You are her pack leader. The first few months are always the hardest, but before you know it you will forgot how it was (lack of sleep, up for potty runs 3 times a night, etc etc.) The more consistent you are and the earlier you get her used to whatever your schedule is, the sooner she'll adapt. It is so worth the work. My AprilLove recently turned 5 months old, and she was exactly the way you are describing now. I could not go into another room without her whining, and she LOVED to whine..the screcching kind. I solved the nighttime crate thing by putting her on the bed with me in her crate and she did great with the housebreaking. When I first put her in the crate, to get used to it during the day, she got so mad she grabbed the metal bars with her little teeth and she would yell so loud, that she lifted her whole body to a horizontal position off the ground! (Wish I had pics) I left the crate open wherever we were during the day, (playtime etc) and let her go into by herself when she wanted to nap, (with door open) sometimes a yummy treat would be in there to entice her. Defintely don't go pick her up everytime she whines, if you do you will teach her that that is acceptable behavior (rewarded by being picked up) Anyway, now at 5 months AprilLove has turned into a true little pal. She trusts me. She's comfortable with me and seems to have confidence that I will always come back, after being gone a while. (Which I always do) She doesn't even whine anymore when I leave her gated in the kitchen when I go off to work. She is like "oh, your leaving, I see you later. But when I am home, she is attached at the hip. Always where I am. I love it!
Sorry for the novel. But please have patience and you'll see that it gets better and more wonderful by the day. JMHO

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Good post. I did this with my Yorkie Pixie, crate next to my bed on a end table from the living room. My small Peke would not accept the crate at all since his breeder had him in an x-pen 24/7, never took him out. I set up an x-pen and put wee pads all over the bottom. He started using one at the back off the pen and so I picked up the others. He could stay in there all the time without complaining and I hated that he had never been held or played with. So I had the reverse issue of yours. I had to work on handling him and teaching him to play. I now leave the pen door open, same principal as the crate. He's doing well but it was a slow process and consistancy with socializing him. He now must be greeted by all the enter the house first or won't stop barking and jumping. I'm thrilled to see him with some spirit. I hope to get him eased into switching to a crate as his den.
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My experience is almost the same as AprilLove's. My Yorkie is now 6 months. When he was young, I left him by himself in the crate in kitchen at night. He would cry and whine like crazy in the middle of the night. It distressed both of us so much (and likely my neighbors too). Then I took his crate and parked it next to my bed at night. No more barking and whining. That was also where he would be if I was away from home. It was a good way to housebreak him as a result. He learned that the peeing and pooping is for outside. After a few months of this routine, I got him an xpen, left his crate in the xpen with the crate door open. He doesn't bark or whine much nowadays (in fact, he rarely barks anymore.. it's awesome! LOL). He goes into the crate by himself if he wants to nap. He does whine for a couple mins (but nothing unmanageable) if he sees me around the house but he's stuck in the xpen. But if I ignore him and don't let him out of the xpen, he stops whining. When I'm able to pay some attention to him, I let him out of the xpen. When he's out, he's usually attached at the hip with me lol... so adorable

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Thank you very much for your comments. I gave up on putting her in the crate at night--at least for now. I really can't put her in the crate, next to my bed because the wall our bed rests against is our neighbor's bedroom wall (we live in a duplex). We can hear regular conversations, and it would be very very rude to let her bark next to my bed at night.
During the day she started to go into the crate by herself to nap briefly, so hopefully she will get used to it eventually. I have also decided to let her get used to the house and everyone in it for another week or so before I start to look for "solutions."
We also got a play pen for her (finally) and that seems to be working out fine. I still stay within the same room when she is in the play pen, but I walk out of the room briefly. When I come back into the room I don't even look in her direction even though by that point she has been whining and barking constantly. Then she stops. I let her out of the play pen at least five minutes after she stops making any noise.
I can't take her out for a walk because she can't walk outside yet (our vet's orders), but our cat started to get a kick out of running around with Mia (we watch them to make sure there is no pawing/biting). They tire each other out.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I am so happy to have found this forum early in Mia's life, because I learn new things from other members every day.
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