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Old 05-15-2006, 05:04 AM   #1
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Confused I am in a panick . . . .I need help with houstraining

Annika can be home anytime now and I have no clue on how to housebreak her with Tiger already having a regular routine.

I have a full time job and Tiger is used to crate training and has done wonderfully since I started doing this when he was over 3 months old. Now at 7 months, he stays in a crate for 7 hours, then I come home for a late lunch to relieve him. He is then fed and we go for our short walk and then he goes back into his crate again for another 3 hours until I come home in the evening. I walk him again so he can do his thing and the rest of the night he wears a belly band as he gets free roam of the house.

Now with Annika, how do I housebreak her without disrupting or changing Tiger's routine which is working so well for me right now. Any great ideas
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Try to introduce the same routine ,if it works I'd try it .
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If he's doing so well with housetraining why the bellyband? Just curious.
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Try to introduce the same routine ,if it works I'd try it .
I would if I know for sure she is good at holding her pee at 4 hours . . but she is only 12 weeks so I doubt it. And I certainly cannot go home more than once in a day . . . I might get fired !

I will check with her breeder on potty training issues.
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If he's doing so well with housetraining why the bellyband? Just curious.
Tiger is very good when he is confined to the laundry room as he has the pad right there whenever he needs it. But when he roams free in the rest of the house, he does not know to go back to the laundry room and there is an easy gate that won't keep open . . . so I know he will pee everywhere else.

In fact, he had a small accident in my living room this morning as the gate was ajar and I did not realize he got out . . . he always runs around and is soo playful so he pee'd a little bit. Good thing I caught him in the act so I cleaned it up immediately. He has also started marking so I notice him lifting his leg too many times in the house so I know without the band there'll be pee everywhere.

He has not been trained to give signals when he needs to go which I really need to address but somehow could not find the time and I guess I am way too dependent on the bands
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I have a pee pad in the 2 ends of the house. I was thinking of not having one in the front part but I took it up and she pooped where is use to be so I keep one there too.
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I have a pee pad in the 2 ends of the house. I was thinking of not having one in the front part but I took it up and she pooped where is use to be so I keep one there too.
I think I will try that on Tiger . . .
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A 12 week old puppy will need to pee at least every 30 mins. Do you have doggie daycare by you? Or a dog walker? Or even a retired neighbor who can help out?
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A 12 week old puppy will need to pee at least every 30 mins. Do you have doggie daycare by you? Or a dog walker? Or even a retired neighbor who can help out?
Nope.

I am thinking of just letting her run around in the laundry room and there's a pee pad available for when she needs to go but I fear Tiger will be barking at her constantly and non stop . . . and it would not be fair for him to be in a crate while Annika has free run of the laundry room What do you think?
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I may just be really weird. But, if I had to leave a little dog (any dog) in a crate for 10 hours a day - I wouldn't have a dog.

I work - and my dog is confined to a large kitchen/laundry room area when I'm gone. He has everything he needs - toys, water, food, a bed (forget the potty pad - he tears these up in 10 minutes).... and at 9 months, he almost never goes to the bathroom when I'm gone anymore. (And, if he did - it would be on vinyl and not the end of the world.) I take him out ever two hours when I home - evenings, weekends, days off, etc. And he also wears a belly band at times when he has free run of the house. He sleeps with me and rarely has ever had an accident during the night.

I think crate training is fine. A lot of people have use this very successfully when their dogs were pups. And, I think a dog being confined to a crate occasionally is okay (an hour or two for a special reason). And, with the door open, many dogs like to spend time in their crate and sleep in it.

But - 10 hours a day - I couldn't do this. It seems so "unhealthy" to me. Imagine a person or a child having to live this way!! I would even think this would affect bone structure and development.

I even feel sorry for my birds that are in a cage so much of the time - but at least they have a large cage and can fly around and play all day.

Is this just me?????

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You may need to rethink having Tiger in the crate,with the puppy running round.If you have them both in the kitchen,gated off,with their things there,including a pee pad for the puppy,then maybe Tiger could have his crate to retreat to if he needs his space.Will you have another crate for the puppy or will she have a basket? It all depends on whether they get on well right away or not.
Do you have a yard? Toilet training must be so hard without one! Where does Tiger go/did he go other than out on walks?
On the plus side,Tiger can show the pup what to do! Good Luck!
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I may just be really weird. But, if I had to leave a little dog (any dog) in a crate for 10 hours a day - I wouldn't have a dog.

I work - and my dog is confined to a large kitchen/laundry room area when I'm gone. He has everything he needs - toys, water, food, a bed (forget the potty pad - he tears these up in 10 minutes).... and at 9 months, he almost never goes to the bathroom when I'm gone anymore. (And, if he did - it would be on vinyl and not the end of the world.) I take him out ever two hours when I home - evenings, weekends, days off, etc. And he also wears a belly band at times when he has free run of the house. He sleeps with me and rarely has ever had an accident during the night.

I think crate training is fine. A lot of people have use this very successfully when their dogs were pups. And, I think a dog being confined to a crate occasionally is okay (an hour or two for a special reason). And, with the door open, many dogs like to spend time in their crate and sleep in it.

But - 10 hours a day - I couldn't do this. It seems so "unhealthy" to me. Imagine a person or a child having to live this way!! I would even think this would affect bone structure and development.

I even feel sorry for my birds that are in a cage so much of the time - but at least they have a large cage and can fly around and play all day.

Is this just me?????

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Carol Jean ~ I do believe this is "just you". I have read a many posts on here about crate training and the fact that many people have to leave their animals in a crate for many hours a day. I see nothing wrong with needing to be able to do this when you are working with your Yorkie to eventually allow them to be in your home, free roaming while you are at work.

My Bailey is in a larger size crate that has plenty of room for his food, water, toys, blanketsand he can move around quite well.

Morgan is in an x-pen away from Bailey so they cannot see eachother while I am working on the potty training thing with her. Eventually they will be crated together once Morgan is able to hold her bladder longer.

Also, I do not believe in reading Des post that she was looking for advice as to or not to crate her dog, she was looking for training advice for her new puppy that is not yet home yet.

I look at it this way, we all have ways of parenting and raising our Yorkies, just like our children. No one person does it the same as the next. Just because you don't agree with the way someone does something, that works well for them doesn't mean that it is wrong.

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Wel,l Im putting my two cents in here.Im with carol on this one. I think it is not good for anydog to be crated for 10 hours a day. I know alot of people will hate me for this.I will say also why have a dog that has to be crated for 10 hours a day? Especially a new puppy that need consant care.
Rocco's previous owner keep him crated about 10 hours a day ,not to mention when she would get off work get home, let him out then go to her kids games.To me it is to much! Rocco circles almost constanly and I think it stems from being crated for long periods. It is just plain wrong to me.
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Wel,l Im putting my two cents in here.Im with carol on this one. I think it is not good for anydog to be crated for 10 hours a day. I know alot of people will hate me for this.I will say also why have a dog that has to be crated for 10 hours a day? Especially a new puppy that need consant care.
Rocco's previous owner keep him crated about 10 hours a day ,not to mention when she would get off work get home, let him out then go to her kids games.To me it is to much! Rocco circles almost constanly and I think it stems from being crated for long periods. It is just plain wrong to me.
I don't think that circling has anything to do with being crated. Daisy is only crated at night and she circles too.. I think that a lot of Yorkies do this. I don't see anything wrong with using a crate. Do you know that most dogs sleep the whole time we're gone anyways?? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but just because one has to work (and chooses to use a crate) doesn't mean that they are a bad owner or that they shouldn't be entitled to owning a dog.. JMO..
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I am with everyone who thinks a dog shouldnt be crated for 10 hours. I would use an xpen or gate them in a room so they can move around a bit.
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