TRAINING YOUR DOG (Alpha or Leader of the Pack whatever you want to call it)

[chachi]

Originally Posted by hasrv4fun

Me either-
Hang in there Pat , one of us leaving at a time is enough
Talk to you later -just saw this

.Whoa take a breather you guys no one should leave you would all be missed too much. I know there is debate on some threads but just skip by it to other threads if it bothers you but please dont leave. I would miss all of you

[FirstYorkie]

I am so confused! Can someone explain to me what happened?

[Jaspermom]

Originally Posted by FirstYorkie

I am so confused! Can someone explain to me what happened?

Allow me. This is how I see it.

Pat is not a healthy person, and has not been for quite a few years. She has survived since her first heart attack because she changed her eating and exercise lifestyle, and she works very hard at remaining as healthy as possible. However, she has brain aneurysms, and needs to reduce stress. She feels extremely stressed by any disagreement, and wrongly or not, takes on the responsibiltiy of the disagreements here because she happened to begin this thread. Due to the stress she is feeling, she feels she has to leave YT to lighten her personal stress load.

Joan too has been feeling stress due to some of the interpersonal issues some members have with each other. She is a very caring and empathetic person, and it bothers her to no end when two intelligent people would rather cat fight than have a meaningful in-thread conversation.

Villette has personal problems with a particular member that I know of because of what she has witnessed this particular member doing to other members that cause them actual personal harm, whether emotional, stressful, or otherwise. She feels the stress of this person constantly, and has a hard time being here because this other person is allowed to remain.

And me? I love them all. I wish we all could take this board a lot less seriously and just agree to disagree and live and let live. But if you have so much stress because of the board that it harms you phyically and/or emotionally, then by all means, you should all leave it, or at least take a break. It just is NOT worth it...

I love all of you, and will miss you if you go. But please go if you must.

[FirstYorkie]

Thanks, Jaspersmom! It seemed to me that the debate was going along fine - a debate, yes, but a debate where everyone was respecting each other's opinions. And then all the sudden, WHAM! People are angry and leaving. I just can't see what the fuss is about. Perhaps I'm slow...

[Jaspermom]

Originally Posted by Yorkie Mum

Why?? Seriously why?
No one is attacking anyone. That is a member of this board questioning the abilty of a non member. Yes. What is being put forward is if educational on both sides. I learned a ton. Joy

I learned a ton, too! However, I have always wished we women could debate without being so emotional. I am guilty of it too, and protect my Healthy Eating Club thread like a she-bear with cubs, lol!!

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

I have actually seen a MAJOR improvement in this board in the last week or so and I was feeling VERY optimistic, there was true and sincere reflection occurring on all sides, and I feel a lot of people have learned how to better write and post w/o being harsh, hurtful and unnecessarily abrasive. There is also more respect for differing points of view than there ever has been before.

I think that both Pat and Joan are a very big part of this CHANGE and I, for one, would hate to see either leave at this point, but I sure know what the stress can do to you and I have taken breathers for my health and sanity at times as well, so I agree with Glad, if you feel you need to take a break for a while...please do so, but please return when you feel better.

I truly think we are ALL finally trying very hard to make this board friendlier and it is because we have more "friendlier" and kind hearted members that ever before.

Let's all continue to work on it.

I actually think this thread was quite civil and friendly and people learned a ton despite the differing points of view. I know I did!

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by FirstYorkie

I am so confused! Can someone explain to me what happened?

Ditto

[red98vett]

All I know is I feel really bad. My post to Pat had absolutely nothing to do with anything or anyone....and yes... I don't agree with actions of one member but that was the farthest thing from my mind when I posted....it was a simple post with the hope that she would change her mind ....period.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by red98vett

All I know is I feel really bad. My post to Pat had absolutely nothing to do with anything or anyone....and yes... I don't agree with actions of one member but that was the farthest thing from my mind when I posted....it was a simple post with the hope that she would change her mind ....period.

Thats how I read your post too Villette dont worry about it.