Electric fence for yorkies ??

[yorkietalkjilly]

DA985, Totally agree. Training is nonstop!!! It is part of our lives and as my dog's life could depend on it, we keep at it. We keep it short and lots of fun and Tibbe gets so many props and good reinforcement from it, he loves it! So do I, seeing that tiny 5 lb. creature having such a good time and loving to learn. I think the "Stop" and "Wait" or "Stay" commands are just as important as the "Come" command so we work on those in the house and out back a great deal. I want to keep him engaged in learning new tricks, too, as he LOVES learning new things and working on them. I'm no professional or anything like it but my dog makes it so much fun, can't help myself - even when I feel bad or am hurting a lot - Tibbe draws me out of myself and we work! Such fun and so rewarding.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Yorkiesatwork

I'm not lazy... I'm not cruel... I love my Yorkies... I don't ever want to look in hindsight for what I might have been able to do to prevent a horrible accident.

My first yorkie, Marley, was turned into my office about a year ago after he was discovered running down the middle of the state highway that runs in front of my office. A woman ran in, out of breath, holding this little dog, and said 'what town is this?... and do you recognize this dog?!' I said Jefferson, and 'no'!

She was on her way north to be with her sister who was having surgery. She said her husband saw Marley and pulled his F150 crossways of the highway to stop traffic and she jumped out and grabbed him.

Had they not done this, he likely would have been dead in minutes.

Long story short, Marley came to live with me. He was a runner... He is a runner... and he's much quicker and faster than I am. For the most part, he minds well. But a deer, golfcart, skateboard, bicycle... whatever, makes him 10 feet tall and invisible! Training is wonderful. But it only takes once.

I am going to put in the fence. If it turns out to be cruel... if it hurts more than a shot, or having his teeth cleaned, or his ears swabbed, or if it takes more than two encounters with the correction, I'll pull up the fence and forget it.

If there are any of you who have had or know of someone who has used the fence on little (under 10 pounds) dogs, I'd like to hear of your experiences.

I had a friend who had two dogs (not sure what breed) but around 15 to 20 pounds maybe less who had an electric fence and both dogs ended up getting hit by cars because they took the shock many times to run the neighborhood sometimes together sometimes not and each ended up getting him by a car and dying. A non existent fence is not going to protect your dog in my opinion and it is cruel and mean. How about you put the collar on on see how it feels and remember you are a lot bigger then a yorkie!

[DvlshAngel985]

Yorkiekjillie try "leave it". Kaji is getting so good at that one. We do training with his dinner and started incorporating "leave it." it's come in handy already! My dad tried to give Kaji a snack of something not good for him. I yelled "leave it" from across the room and Kaji dropped the food. It saved him from a tummy ache that night.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Oh, I had to teach "leave it" pretty much from day one as I take medication and feared dropping a pill somehow and seeing him with one in is mouth or something! Plus, just the things he might get in his mouth dictates early training in that. He does that so well that he drops his chewie, his food, toy, whatever he has in his mouth and moves away to the middle of the room or yard to distance himself from that object that was in his mouth or whatever he was about to partake of when he got the command! He always gets an extra treat for appropriate response to "leave it" as that is a command a dog has just got to get right every time. Tibbe is such a good little learner. (I can't believe he was so "feral" almost when I first got him, I called trainers in North Dallas on Day 3 when I had him to see if they could assess him for mental acuity as I thought he might be brain damaged! He just knew nothing at all about life outside a cage and was very dead acting - nonresponsive except to run, scream, yelp, growl and he was scared of everything!) He's come so far.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Oh, I had to teach "leave it" pretty much from day one as I take medication and feared dropping a pill somehow and seeing him with one in is mouth or something! Plus, just the things he might get in his mouth dictates early training in that. He does that so well that he drops his chewie, his food, toy, whatever he has in his mouth and moves away to the middle of the room or yard to distance himself from that object that was in his mouth or whatever he was about to partake of when he got the command! He always gets an extra treat for appropriate response to "leave it" as that is a command a dog has just got to get right every time. Tibbe is such a good little learner. (I can't believe he was so "feral" almost when I first got him, I called trainers in North Dallas on Day 3 when I had him to see if they could assess him for mental acuity as I thought he might be brain damaged! He just knew nothing at all about life outside a cage and was very dead acting - nonresponsive except to run, scream, yelp, growl and he was scared of everything!) He's come so far.

If you have any tips on getting him to drop the ball, I'm all ears! He'll drop everything but his toys. He doesn't like to share his toys.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

If you have any tips on getting him to drop the ball, I'm all ears! He'll drop everything but his toys. He doesn't like to share his toys.

I would stand over him, or get down on his level and look him in his eyes and point and give the command in that totally neutral, noncondemning training voice, "leave it", drop it, whatever you use, and hold that position - keep him looking at you, keep pointing and don't let him step away until he drops it. Keep him corralled there with your hands and arms and keep eye contact. He doesn't walk or turn away until he drops it. (Use a leash at first to keep him there if necessary.) Then, first and every other time he drops it, whoopee!!!! Say the word "Yes!" instantly and treat instantly and then really connect with him with lots of love. Just love him up and hold him and rub his back so gently and praise, praise, praise. Tell him you are sooooo proud of him and he is such a good boy.

But you must stand him down and no leaving the area until that ball is on the floor. Whatever you do during that standoff, do not get frustrated or mad because he will pick up on that instantly and get defensive - keep it cool and calm and stay in totally neutral training mode - but stand him down nevertheless. Anytime he doesn't drop the ball, it is a stand down. And then it is treat, partytime and love. He will get the idea the stand down is nonproductive and dropping it is way more fun! Tibbe works for the payoff he gets first and foremost and then it becomes habit. But it is like you say, you have to keep up on training and keep it positive and fun most of all.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

I would stand over him, or get down on his level and look him in his eyes and point and give the command in that totally neutral, noncondemning training voice, "leave it", drop it, whatever you use, and hold that position - keep him looking at you, keep pointing and don't let him step away until he drops it. Keep him corralled there with your hands and arms and keep eye contact. He doesn't walk or turn away until he drops it. (Use a leash at first to keep him there if necessary.) Then, first and every other time he drops it, whoopee!!!! Say the word "Yes!" instantly and treat instantly and then really connect with him with lots of love. Just love him up and hold him and rub his back so gently and praise, praise, praise. Tell him you are sooooo proud of him and he is such a good boy.

But you must stand him down and no leaving the area until that ball is on the floor. Whatever you do during that standoff, do not get frustrated or mad because he will pick up on that instantly and get defensive - keep it cool and calm and stay in totally neutral training mode - but stand him down nevertheless. Anytime he doesn't drop the ball, it is a stand down. And then it is treat, partytime and love. He will get the idea the stand down is nonproductive and dropping it is way more fun! Tibbe works for the payoff he gets first and foremost and then it becomes habit. But it is like you say, you have to keep up on training and keep it positive and fun most of all.

I'll try it. I'm afraid that stance will scare him and he'll wet the floor. I can't be too firm with him. He's easily intimidated and scared.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Oh, if he's easily intimidated, just get down on his level and stay very neutral, easy peasy going, say "drop it" matter of factly, positive positive positive, keep eye contact and keep him corralled until he drops it. He will eventually - you just have to wait him out staying steady, light, positive but neutrally insistent. Then the party. Just repeat that way each time and he will learn you are nice and easy about it but going to stay with him until he drops it. No sweat or strain - just mommie being persistent. Tibbe was like that at first, easily intimidated and scared, and then his training I guess and just a different kind of life has given him a lot of self-assurance. He's a bit of a toot now.

[yorkietalkjilly]

P. S. Another way to get him to drop his toy is open up a tupperware container and take out a piece of chicken(or whatever high-value treat you use but want to keep in as unsmellable as possible until you are in position and the ball/toy is in the dog's mouth before he can smell it - or he may drop it early and come running to the smell) and offer it to him while he's holding the toy while saying "Leave it" "Drop it", and when he does, he gets the treat. It's a nice trade-off - toy for treat. Won't take him long to learn that he can't drop that toy fast enough to get that high-value treat. There are so many ways to train a dog to do something you want. You just have to pick the one that works best for you and your dog.

[capt_noonie]

Leave it and drop it are so unbelievably useful! If Kaji doens't get drop it, you can try "trade" and whatever he has, have something better in your hand. Say trade, and he should drop what he has to take what you've got. Not only did he do what you wanted, but also got a treat instantly. It's a really easy one to teach.

[FidoTheYorkie]

Cant read all the comments right now but I'm not getting an electric fence I just wanted to know how everyone felt about using it and if it had worked for someone.
Its illegal to use electric invisible fences here also I can't buy them here, I'm also moving soon we haven't found a place yet but I hope I find some place that has fence outside so Fido can be off-leash If not I'll just keep having him in a leash outside

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by FidoTheYorkie

Cant read all the comments right now but I'm not getting an electric fence I just wanted to know how everyone felt about using it and if it had worked for someone.
Its illegal to use electric invisible fences here also I can't buy them here, I'm also moving soon we haven't found a place yet but I hope I find some place that has fence outside so Fido can be off-leash If not I'll just keep having him in a leash outside

Originally Posted by FidoTheYorkie

Is it OK to use those invicinble electric dog fences for yorkies ?
My aunt uses that for her dogs, they have a collar that gives them a little bit of electricity when they go out of the yard and it helped her so much ! she had a beagle that ran away constantly so that helped her alot


My yorkie, if the door is a little bit open he is gone ! No way to catch him
I would LOVE to be able to have him loose in the yard (though I would never have him alone in the yard , I'm always with him) without him running away and dont need to panic all the time about him getting loose.


How do you put down this kind of ''fence'' ? is it hard or can I get something that is really easy to put down in the ground ? I dont wanna make this some big mess , I want to find the easiest way possible
Its not an option for me to put a fence around the garden, it costs way to much I can't afford it.

WTF, Seriously? If they are illegal where you live then why did you even ask if you can't even legally purchase or install one?

I am so over this thread. If people are going to be lazy enough to buy an electric fence then there is no convincing them otherwise.

[SamanthaKim]

I don't get it. Why don't you just leash her when you take her out into the front yard...or not let her into the front yard? It sounds like you're going to use the fence regardless of what anyone says anyway. No use justifying yourself because it really doesn't seem like anyone here would buy it, and it really doesn't seem like you want to listen to anyone anyway lol.

[FidoTheYorkie]

I just wanted to ask about this and see how everyone felt about using this cause my aunt has this kind of fence and I will propably move to her in about 2 years with Fido with me (she lives in the US).

[FidoTheYorkie]

SamanthaKim no I'm not going to use those fences ! I'm not.
Yes I am listening to everyone , I didnt know anything about those fences I would NOT get one for my dog !

I'm not a bad yorkie owner and I dont want to be one, I do everything for my babie he's the light of my life I would NEVER whant to hurt him I just wanted to ask about those fences cause I didnt know anything about them, now I know all the bad things about them and I dont want one anymore.

I'm just going to keep leash him in the garden until I get a real fence around the garden