Bitting 3 momth old yorkie,how do stop her?? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Lillyknight · 07-19-2011, 05:32 AM

I have a female yorkie, she is very independent and she has shown signs of being agressive towards me when I am holding her and she wants down she will yap and snap at my face but not making contact with my face. I have told her NO in a firm voice and had some good results but when I am holding her in my lap while seated if she wants to get down she will get ill and want to bite my hand or anything close. I don't believe in hitting a dog, I am just so crushed I have waited so long for a Yorkie and was thinking she would be my little lap dog but she has no interest in that. I don't know if I should sell her and give up!! She does have her moments of being sweet, I am concerned though if she will be mean when she gets older I have Grandchildren that visit and the thought of haveing to keep her away from them does not set well with me. Help please????

DJDB · 07-19-2011, 02:30 PM

The only thing I can think of to suggest is that you buy the book "How to Raise the Perfect Dog" by Cesar Millan. It really helps you understand the reasons dogs behave the way they do. I know that the few times Ozzy tried even play biting, I would do the "mom bite on the butt" on him (with an appropriate noise that says "don't do that") and he stopped right away. I'm sure Cesar can explain it better, but you basically make your hand into a "claw" and give them a "nip" on the hind quarter. It's not hitting or pinching, more like a quick poke. It's apparently how momma dogs teach "don't do that".

That worked on Ozzy. I only had to do that about 3 times and now he doesn't mouth me at all, and it didn't make him scared of me, either. It really seemed that he viewed me as his "teacher".

But read the book. I don't want anyone to think I'm advocating being mean to the dog. Cesar really explains it way better. Maybe you can even find a youtube video?

Sounds to me like she thinks SHE is the boss of you. Time to become the alpha!

cummins · 07-19-2011, 02:52 PM

My sisters yorkie did the same thing and her vet said when she does that just put her down on the floor and ignore her. It worked. You may have to do it several times for her to figure it out

Mollysmom411999 · 07-19-2011, 03:39 PM

Oh how I am anxious for your replies as my 5 month old Miley is the same way. She is very bitey especially if she wants down, or won't let me brush her and is very aggressive to my other 2 older girls. She is very independant and trying with all her might to be the alpha female here but my Mattie took that title 10 yrs ago. I am at wits end on what to do too. She is a work in progress but can be the sweetest angel too! I will never part with her, I will work with her but am waiting also on others who havve had the same problem.

McheleM · 07-19-2011, 11:59 PM

Cesar has got it going on in the dog training world!! I love his training, and it's what we're using. Allie will even lay down and wait to go outside until we step out the door and say ok, Allie, come, because we've taught her to 'wait'

givemecouture · 07-20-2011, 09:52 PM

I am soooo getting his book! I love learning to "act" like a dog and I think that does bring the best results especially with behaviour problems

alaskayorkie · 07-21-2011, 01:39 AM

Check out this link:
Teaching Bite Inhibition | Dog Star Daily

Ian Dunbar is perhaps the best, most accessible behaviorist out there, and just about everything he preaches is available for free at dogstardaily.

Lillyknight · 07-21-2011, 01:03 PM

Thanks for the advice! I will get the book. My Lilly is sweet most of the time but I know I have to get control of this problem, now if anyone has advice on house training?? I work 4 days a week but I come home once during the day to let her out of her pen inside, she is not crated I put down a pee pad for her which she tears up. I take her out every 20-30 minutes or so and think she is getting better and then she will make a mess. I have trained puppys before but don't remember it being this hard. Thanks!!!

alaskayorkie · 07-21-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lillyknight

Thanks for the advice! I will get the book. My Lilly is sweet most of the time but I know I have to get control of this problem, now if anyone has advice on house training?? I work 4 days a week but I come home once during the day to let her out of her pen inside, she is not crated I put down a pee pad for her which she tears up. I take her out every 20-30 minutes or so and think she is getting better and then she will make a mess. I have trained puppys before but don't remember it being this hard. Thanks!!!

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DJDB · 07-21-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lillyknight

Thanks for the advice! I will get the book. My Lilly is sweet most of the time but I know I have to get control of this problem, now if anyone has advice on house training?? I work 4 days a week but I come home once during the day to let her out of her pen inside, she is not crated I put down a pee pad for her which she tears up. I take her out every 20-30 minutes or so and think she is getting better and then she will make a mess. I have trained puppys before but don't remember it being this hard. Thanks!!!

I really think you should crate train. You seem to have a pup that is kind of running amok. If you don't get control now you may regret it.

You shouldn't have to take her out that often. Make sure she is contained to one small area, even when you're home. If you let her roam you have to be prepared to watch her EVERY moment. Watch for "searching" behaviour and take her out if you see her really sniffing the floor, cuz she's likely looking for a good place to potty. Praise with treats when she goes outside. If you catch her in the act of going somewhere she's not supposed to, use a firm NO (don't scream it), pick her up and take her outside. Again, praise and treat for going outside.

Get the Cesar book. It will help.

P.S. we used "how to house train your dog in 7 days". It took a little longer, but we've had Ozzy for one month, and in the last 2 weeks he's had only 1 accident, and hasn't had any in the last 7 days.

Ringo1 · 07-22-2011, 08:07 PM

When Lucy was a puppy - she would growl everything I tried to pick up her up IF she was lounging in a comfy spot. If she were on the couch or a soft pillow - would make her mad if I tried to move her.

I started putting a soft blanket around her before I picked her up and that helped. Then I started approaching her with treats and that helped.

Now I don't have to do either of those things.

But she's still a little crazed if you try to take something out of her mouth. She's alwasy got something in there that she shouldn't. There again, I've found the 'trade' works well. Trade what you have for a treat. Works every time.

KizzieKins · 07-23-2011, 07:55 AM

I have the Cesar book, and I think I agree with about 50% of his training methods, some of it just isn't practical for me, he keeps his dogs in the garage, and they are a part of his "pack" but not in the same way Kizzie is a part of my family.. He uses other dogs to train his new puppies, I'm a 1 dog household so I don't have an older well behaved dog to help me train the new puppy on the rules..
I do however use the claw method mentioned in this post and it works as far as I can tell.. I'm also clicker training her, using kibble as the reward, so essentially hand feeding her right now.. I refuse to give her the food if she tries to nibble my fingers or bite me, she must sit and wait for me to open my hand with the treat laying in my palm.. this way she is working for her food, but she also comes to me as her provider and friend.. Giving her something to do helps both her and I..

renee6645 · 07-23-2011, 08:39 AM

My 15-week old puppy is biting my hands and toes. Sometimes he gets so crazed I can tell how hard it is for him to stop chewing. I give him a chew toy which he will chew for a few minutes then he is right back to my hands and sometimes he really digs in. I was putting him in his pen but my mother told me not to use it for punishment purposes because he won't want to go in there for sleeping, etc... Yesterday I spoke to the vet about it and she said to give a high-pitched puppy yip when he does it. She said this is the behavior they exhibit in litters that signals them that they are being too rough and to knock it off. I tried it last night and this morning and it works like a charm!! Hope it helps you, I know it is frustrating.

DJDB · 07-23-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by renee6645

My 15-week old puppy is biting my hands and toes. Sometimes he gets so crazed I can tell how hard it is for him to stop chewing. I give him a chew toy which he will chew for a few minutes then he is right back to my hands and sometimes he really digs in. I was putting him in his pen but my mother told me not to use it for punishment purposes because he won't want to go in there for sleeping, etc... Yesterday I spoke to the vet about it and she said to give a high-pitched puppy yip when he does it. She said this is the behavior they exhibit in litters that signals them that they are being too rough and to knock it off. I tried it last night and this morning and it works like a charm!! Hope it helps you, I know it is frustrating.

I agree the crate or pen should not be used for punishment. Also, give your pup LOTS of different chew toys. Ozzy has Kong, cow hoof, bully sticks (large, medium, small), hard rubber dental bone with nubs, etc. I always made sure he has something interesting to chew. So far, we've had no problems with him biting. However, when playing, and he starts biting even playfully, we use the "claw" thing on his hind quarter and that has really worked. A good high pitched OUCH also does wonders, as you said.

givemecouture · 07-23-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by renee6645

My 15-week old puppy is biting my hands and toes. Sometimes he gets so crazed I can tell how hard it is for him to stop chewing. I give him a chew toy which he will chew for a few minutes then he is right back to my hands and sometimes he really digs in. I was putting him in his pen but my mother told me not to use it for punishment purposes because he won't want to go in there for sleeping, etc... Yesterday I spoke to the vet about it and she said to give a high-pitched puppy yip when he does it. She said this is the behavior they exhibit in litters that signals them that they are being too rough and to knock it off. I tried it last night and this morning and it works like a charm!! Hope it helps you, I know it is frustrating.

this is really good and def works

07-19-2011, 05:32 AM	#1
Lillyknight YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Bonaire, Ga., usa Posts: 3	Bitting 3 momth old yorkie,how do stop her?? I have a female yorkie, she is very independent and she has shown signs of being agressive towards me when I am holding her and she wants down she will yap and snap at my face but not making contact with my face. I have told her NO in a firm voice and had some good results but when I am holding her in my lap while seated if she wants to get down she will get ill and want to bite my hand or anything close. I don't believe in hitting a dog, I am just so crushed I have waited so long for a Yorkie and was thinking she would be my little lap dog but she has no interest in that. I don't know if I should sell her and give up!! She does have her moments of being sweet, I am concerned though if she will be mean when she gets older I have Grandchildren that visit and the thought of haveing to keep her away from them does not set well with me. Help please????

07-19-2011, 02:30 PM	#2
DJDB YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 466	The only thing I can think of to suggest is that you buy the book "How to Raise the Perfect Dog" by Cesar Millan. It really helps you understand the reasons dogs behave the way they do. I know that the few times Ozzy tried even play biting, I would do the "mom bite on the butt" on him (with an appropriate noise that says "don't do that") and he stopped right away. I'm sure Cesar can explain it better, but you basically make your hand into a "claw" and give them a "nip" on the hind quarter. It's not hitting or pinching, more like a quick poke. It's apparently how momma dogs teach "don't do that". That worked on Ozzy. I only had to do that about 3 times and now he doesn't mouth me at all, and it didn't make him scared of me, either. It really seemed that he viewed me as his "teacher". But read the book. I don't want anyone to think I'm advocating being mean to the dog. Cesar really explains it way better. Maybe you can even find a youtube video? Sounds to me like she thinks SHE is the boss of you. Time to become the alpha! __________________ David & Denise ... proud parents of Ozzy

07-19-2011, 03:39 PM	#4
Mollysmom411999 YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 373	Oh how I am anxious for your replies as my 5 month old Miley is the same way. She is very bitey especially if she wants down, or won't let me brush her and is very aggressive to my other 2 older girls. She is very independant and trying with all her might to be the alpha female here but my Mattie took that title 10 yrs ago. I am at wits end on what to do too. She is a work in progress but can be the sweetest angel too! I will never part with her, I will work with her but am waiting also on others who havve had the same problem. __________________ Mattie,Abbey,Miley,Dottie,Holly and StevieX6 R.I.P. my Molly Muffin 14/01/11

07-19-2011, 11:59 PM	#5
McheleM Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Mesquite, TX Posts: 2,659	Cesar has got it going on in the dog training world!! I love his training, and it's what we're using. Allie will even lay down and wait to go outside until we step out the door and say ok, Allie, come, because we've taught her to 'wait' __________________ "You've never learned to live until you've done something for someone for which they can never repay you."~Ralph Hall.

07-21-2011, 01:39 AM	#7
alaskayorkie Banning Thread Dictator Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anchorage Posts: 30,843 Blog Entries: 57	Check out this link: Teaching Bite Inhibition \| Dog Star Daily Ian Dunbar is perhaps the best, most accessible behaviorist out there, and just about everything he preaches is available for free at dogstardaily. __________________ Mike ~ Doting Dad to Jillie, Harper, Molly, Cooper, Eddie (RIP), Lucy (RIP), Rusty (RIP) and Jack (RIP). Check us out on YouTube

07-19-2011, 02:52 PM	#3
cummins YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Arcola Il Posts: 554 Blog Entries: 2	My sisters yorkie did the same thing and her vet said when she does that just put her down on the floor and ignore her. It worked. You may have to do it several times for her to figure it out

07-20-2011, 09:52 PM	#6
givemecouture Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: TX Posts: 402	I am soooo getting his book! I love learning to "act" like a dog and I think that does bring the best results especially with behaviour problems

07-21-2011, 01:03 PM	#8
Lillyknight YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Bonaire, Ga., usa Posts: 3	Thanks for the advice! I will get the book. My Lilly is sweet most of the time but I know I have to get control of this problem, now if anyone has advice on house training?? I work 4 days a week but I come home once during the day to let her out of her pen inside, she is not crated I put down a pee pad for her which she tears up. I take her out every 20-30 minutes or so and think she is getting better and then she will make a mess. I have trained puppys before but don't remember it being this hard. Thanks!!!

07-22-2011, 08:07 PM	#11
Ringo1 Ringo (1) and Lucy too! Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On the Edge of Glory Posts: 3,447	When Lucy was a puppy - she would growl everything I tried to pick up her up IF she was lounging in a comfy spot. If she were on the couch or a soft pillow - would make her mad if I tried to move her. I started putting a soft blanket around her before I picked her up and that helped. Then I started approaching her with treats and that helped. Now I don't have to do either of those things. But she's still a little crazed if you try to take something out of her mouth. She's alwasy got something in there that she shouldn't. There again, I've found the 'trade' works well. Trade what you have for a treat. Works every time. __________________ Mommy to Lucy, Ringo, and Matthew

07-23-2011, 07:55 AM	#12
KizzieKins Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 76	I have the Cesar book, and I think I agree with about 50% of his training methods, some of it just isn't practical for me, he keeps his dogs in the garage, and they are a part of his "pack" but not in the same way Kizzie is a part of my family.. He uses other dogs to train his new puppies, I'm a 1 dog household so I don't have an older well behaved dog to help me train the new puppy on the rules.. I do however use the claw method mentioned in this post and it works as far as I can tell.. I'm also clicker training her, using kibble as the reward, so essentially hand feeding her right now.. I refuse to give her the food if she tries to nibble my fingers or bite me, she must sit and wait for me to open my hand with the treat laying in my palm.. this way she is working for her food, but she also comes to me as her provider and friend.. Giving her something to do helps both her and I..

07-23-2011, 08:39 AM	#13
renee6645 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Richmond, VA, USA Posts: 84	My 15-week old puppy is biting my hands and toes. Sometimes he gets so crazed I can tell how hard it is for him to stop chewing. I give him a chew toy which he will chew for a few minutes then he is right back to my hands and sometimes he really digs in. I was putting him in his pen but my mother told me not to use it for punishment purposes because he won't want to go in there for sleeping, etc... Yesterday I spoke to the vet about it and she said to give a high-pitched puppy yip when he does it. She said this is the behavior they exhibit in litters that signals them that they are being too rough and to knock it off. I tried it last night and this morning and it works like a charm!! Hope it helps you, I know it is frustrating.