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Old 01-26-2011, 12:17 PM   #16
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I have 2 rescues, one of which is a puppy mill rescue. Max was an owner surrender to the shelter but he hates the crate. I think he was punished in his crate by his previous owner. I absolutely don't ever crate either of them. I don't even allow it at the groomer's. I have the crate set up in my room, but they never go in it. Actually, if there is a toy in there that they want, they lean in as far as they can without putting a paw inside

I'm sure they could learn to like the crate over time, but I don't push it. They are pretty good, and when I leave they stay downstairs which is tile. In your case, perhaps you could block off an area like the kitchen?
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:30 PM   #17
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I don't believe in caging dogs. Would you want to be confined to a cage all day? I've never caged a dog and never had an issue. It's their house too as far as I'm concerned and the least I can do is give them the freedom to roam the house while I'm gone (doggy-proofed, of course).
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:35 PM   #18
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I've read of others who cage train and they mention when the doggie starts to cry or plead to be let out to not give in. It counterproductive because if you're training them to sleep on their own in cage, why take them out and put them back in the bed with you. So, that's why I said counterproductive.
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Thanks everyone for the support so far.

If you have NOTHING positive to add to the conversation, please do me a favor and not post in my threads! Mkay, thanks
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:49 PM   #20
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Being a puppymill rescue, perhaps the cage brings back bad memories...

The last Best Friends "Pup my Ride" that we took part in, we had one little Yorkie females, about 5 y/o and 5 lbs. She was so pretty and loved to be in your arms. When she was handed to me from the Best Friend Volunteer, we had to take down their tag info and put them into our crates and into our car and await our next pup. Well...this female was going NUTS!!! crying, screaming, scratching at the crate, spinning and spinning and spinning inside. I honestly thought she was going to have a heart attack. So I took her out a bunch of times and held her, and during this time she was a angel...But once back into the crate, the stress of being in it came out...I can only imagine her first 5 years trapped in a crate, it must have been horrible

Maybe try an expen for him
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Old 01-27-2011, 08:47 PM   #21
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I don't believe in caging dogs. Would you want to be confined to a cage all day? I've never caged a dog and never had an issue. It's their house too as far as I'm concerned and the least I can do is give them the freedom to roam the house while I'm gone (doggy-proofed, of course).
I don't really like crates/cages either. We've never really had to use them for long on all of our family dogs growing up, and I never had to with Jackson either. I consider myself very lucky.

But some dogs REALLY need a crate, lol. I dogsit a 8 month old Lab puppy and a 1 year old Rottweiler. You leave the Rottie in the house (with what you THINK everything was picked up....) for all of 30 minutes, and you come back and it looks like the house has been robbed. He DESTROYS the place. And he's entirely too big for an expen. He gets tons of exercise including me who gets over there mid-day. So until you've experienced a dog that will eat coaches, chairs, tables, and anything else, I wouldn't rule out crates.

Crates, just like any thing else, can be used in a bad way. It's about making it a positive experience... throwing a treat in there, and then letting them come right back out... or just leaving it open during the day so it's not always seen as a 'locked in for the day' place.
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If you have NOTHING positive to add to the conversation, please do me a favor and not post in my threads! Mkay, thanks
Why would you say that? I saw nothing that wasn't positive. Maybe I missed something. I agree that maybe the cage/crate might bring back horrible memories. Good luck to you!!
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I agree...why would you say that
Your yorkie is having seperation anxiety. Best to use x-pen w/pee pads when your gone. Or, as someone suggested. Block off kitchen w/child gate. Hope this helps.

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I am not a fan of crate training either... Maybe for bigger puppies it is necessary , because they will destroy all your stuff. BUt, for the toy dogs, I believe in either closing off an area for the dog to be safe in, or use a expen. Potty pads have a scent that dogs are attracted to , which makes it easier to train . Take the dog to the potty pads just when he wakes up, eats , or starts lifting his leg, just pick him up and put him there. Place the pads where he might often go potty and be presistent.
I have trained 2 of my dogs , and working on a third now. I feel extra strongly about a puppy mill dog who has already spent most of his time caged.
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I was encouraged on YT to not put him in the bathroom because he could fall in the toilet. I have had him in the bathroom before he seems to hate that more than the cage - go figure.

I wouldn't have a problem keeping him in a spare room, but I don't want to risk him having an accident in the house. I take him to potty often, but when I leave he sometimes has accidents. He doesn't go on potty pads either.
I adopted a 5 yr old Pom and she is 100% housetrained & crate trained. I don't know her history but I will not put her in a crate. I have her gated in a spare room when I'm at work. She shredded the pee pad I had put down for her just in case. As a precaution to accidents I put a shower curtain liner down. It covers most of the floor and every once in a while I will see that she has peed on it. I just clean it up and never say a word about it. My Yorkie on the other hand will use pee pads as well as going out. I love shower cutain liners. I get them at the dollar store. Just try to be consistent with your dog and in time a regular routine will be a breeze.
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This is a public forum. You asked for opinions. Others are just as free to post their opinions, as you are. I don't understand why you object to anything anyone has posted. Everyone is just trying to help you and offer you their honest opinions.
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Congrats on taking in a rescue. Wish I could offer advice, but everything seems to have been covered already.
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Curious what you all think about this? My dog is 6 and is a rescue. I've had him for about 3 months now. Up until this point he's been sleeping with me while I found a suitable cage for him.

The past few nights, I've been having him sleep in his cage. I put a nice blanket over it to shut out all the light to help him sleep. He also has a dirty tshirt of mine. For the most part, he goes to be with no issue. Some crying and squirming but after a little while he's quiet and sleeps fine.

My issue is right now. It's daytime, and I have him in here in his cage (I'm in the living room w/ him) He is yapping, panting with his tongue out, and clawing to get out. Is this only because I'm sitting right here? I'm trying to ignore him and not rush to his aid because I know that will be counter productive.



Ok, so now as I'm typing I'm looking at him. His back is to me, but he's shaking as if he's cold. Is caging not for him?
It's daytime, your home and you have him in a cage ? why?.Sorry but that makes no sense at all. I feel bad for him
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I crated my dogs while they were being potty trained and when I knew I couldn't trust them. I've always HATED crating them, but for a while, I had to do it because they would get in to stuff while I was gone. My yorkie hated it and I had to literally put him in his crate. But my other dog would go in no problem. He liked it. Neither of them hang out in their crates when the doors are open either, so I finally just put them away.

I think they're old enough now where they've grown out of the destructive phase, so they have free rein of the house. They get daily walks as well, so that helps burn off energy and they're too tired to get in to too much trouble.
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I crated my dogs while they were being potty trained and when I knew I couldn't trust them. I've always HATED crating them, but for a while, I had to do it because they would get in to stuff while I was gone. My yorkie hated it and I had to literally put him in his crate. But my other dog would go in no problem. He liked it. Neither of them hang out in their crates when the doors are open either, so I finally just put them away.

I think they're old enough now where they've grown out of the destructive phase, so they have free rein of the house. They get daily walks as well, so that helps burn off energy and they're too tired to get in to too much trouble.
Her dog isn't a puppy. It was also a puppymill rescue.
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