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01-15-2011, 10:05 AM | #16 |
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| Also would like to add that he is overly simplified things some what.... yes for most dogs it is your problem not your dogs the but and it is big but when the dog has chemical or medical reasons to be the way he is whether it is genetic or hard wired do to poor soical skills. sometimes heaven and earth can not make things right no matter what you do. Do not blame, train goes for the dogs and the owners coming to you to learn to do better. Your fault is blaming the owner not a place to learn form and so Ceser. JL
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01-15-2011, 01:03 PM | #17 | |
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01-15-2011, 02:12 PM | #19 |
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| This pretty much sums up how I feel and what I believe. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/tra...ods-views.html
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01-15-2011, 02:36 PM | #20 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Brittany, I just want to say, I do think you think for yourself. You seem to investigate lots of different methods, and you are continually adapting to what you think works for you and Jackson. You actively work with Jackson training him in agility and other things, and you share with this forum what has worked for you and Jackson. Keep up the good work, and never feel like you know it all, because that's when YOU will stop learning.
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01-15-2011, 02:56 PM | #21 |
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| I do not make my dogs sit and wait for permission to get on my lap before giving them affection. But I do expect them to listen when I tell them to get down. And for the most part they do. They do not growl or protest if I put them off my lap. Sometimes I have to do it 2 or 3 times before they get the message, but eventually they stay off. Cesar Milan was helping people with PROBLEM dogs. Dogs that had taken over the house. So his methods of no talk no touch no eye contact, was designed to correct the problem and get the dog on the right track. If your dog is not a problem then it's OK to give affection without asking them to do something first. I do make mine wait when I set the food down before they can eat. |
01-15-2011, 03:17 PM | #22 | ||
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I do this as well. If I want Jackson to get down, I will tell him down, and he listens. He's never growled at me for ANY reason actually, and I think that's because he respects me *and* I respect him.
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01-15-2011, 04:20 PM | #23 |
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| I think what Zak does that makes a lot of people uncomfortable is that he points out that the HUMAN is accountable and responsible for the training. Making excuses for the dog is conterproductive. This is especially true with animals that come into our lives with "baggage". We can do nothing about what happened in the past and it is truly unfair to make excuses for them -- that mentality limits the animals ability to overcome and limits our ability as the animal's trainer. Same is true with people -- we take what life has thrown in our face and made choices -- we choose to overcome or we choose to be a victim. Last edited by chattiesmom; 01-15-2011 at 04:22 PM. |
01-15-2011, 05:57 PM | #24 | |
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I took Zak to mean that you are always responsible for your dog's behavior, because as a human being you have so many more resources to control the situation. I am sure that there are many dogs out there who, unattended, will eat cat poop or get into the garbage no matter what. If you cannot TRAIN the problem away, you have to MANAGE it - make the litter box and garbage can inaccessible, etc.
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